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Nesster
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Posted: Sun May 13, 2012 10:34 am Post subject: Earliest and latest versions of Zuiko 1.8/50mm |
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Nesster wrote:
Please excuse the lousy photography... I spent a while yesterday locating my old Zuikos in the boxes they were to compare to the set that came with the OM2n. Turns out my old (bought new in '84) 1.8 is the latest 'made in Japan' and the one that just came is an older silver nose one (says Made in Japan on the mount instead). There are size and other detail differences. The '84 1.8 and the 85/2 (also of the 'latest' type) are purple, while the older silver nose 1.8 and the 1.4 my brother in law got from KEH at least a decade ago are yellow-brown.
Haven't tested them to say what differences there are. These are strictly film lenses, unless and until I end up with a digital Oly or Nex.
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Nesster
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Posted: Mon May 14, 2012 8:47 pm Post subject: |
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Nesster wrote:
Having done some research, seems the silver nose is the earliest and the made in Japan the latest versions. I suppose I'll have to do some comparisons between the two, seems they have formula and coating differences. _________________ -Jussi
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hoanpham
Joined: 31 Jan 2011 Posts: 2575
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Posted: Mon May 14, 2012 9:51 pm Post subject: |
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hoanpham wrote:
Do they have different optical?
I think I have both from a lot years ago. |
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hoacker
Joined: 01 May 2011 Posts: 89 Location: Germany, S�dhessen
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Posted: Tue May 15, 2012 10:15 am Post subject: |
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hoacker wrote:
There's some info in the german olypedia. Here's a link with google translation to english:
http://translate.google.de/translate?hl=de&ie=UTF8&prev=_t&sl=de&tl=en&u=http://olypedia.de/Zuiko_Auto-S_1:1,8/50_mm _________________ Holger
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AF lenses: Canon EF-S 17-55 f/2,8 IS USM, Canon EF-M 22mm 1:2 STM, Canon EF 40 f/2,8 STM, Canon EF-S 60 f/2,8 USM, Canon EF 200 1:2.8L II USM, Canon EF 500 f/4L IS USM, Canon Extender 1,4x III, Sigma 50-150/2,8 EX DC APO HSM II, Sigma 150 f/2,8 HSM, Sigma APO Tele Converter 1.4x EX DG, Sigma APO Tele Converter 2x EX DG, Kenko Extension Tubes
For sale (PM me): E.Zuiko Auto-T 1:3,5 f=100mm (Pen F), Zeiss Planar 85 f/1,4 (C/Y)
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Nesster
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Lightshow
Joined: 04 Nov 2011 Posts: 3666 Location: Calgary
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Posted: Tue May 15, 2012 6:32 pm Post subject: |
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Lightshow wrote:
From my research (F/G...)Zuiko = not multicoated, and Zuiko & Zuiko MC = multicoated.
http://www.mir.com.my/rb/photography/hardwares/classics/olympusom1n2/shared/zuiko/htmls/50mm1a.htm _________________ A Manual Focus Junky...
One photographers junk lens is an artists favorite tool.
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dnas
Joined: 14 Nov 2008 Posts: 488 Location: Japan
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Posted: Tue May 15, 2012 11:41 pm Post subject: |
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dnas wrote:
As I recall, there are 4 different types.
The silver nose one, the non silver nose, the "Japan" one, and the "Made in Japan". (I have 3 out of the 4)
The "Made in Japan" seems to be the best. |
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berraneck
Joined: 24 May 2009 Posts: 972 Location: prague, czech republic
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Posted: Wed May 16, 2012 12:33 am Post subject: |
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berraneck wrote:
ussualy, but there are some exceptions _________________ equipment doesn´t count, good photographs do |
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Excalibur
Joined: 19 Jul 2009 Posts: 5017 Location: UK
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Posted: Wed May 16, 2012 6:45 am Post subject: |
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Excalibur wrote:
dnas wrote: |
As I recall, there are 4 different types.
The silver nose one, the non silver nose, the "Japan" one, and the "Made in Japan". (I have 3 out of the 4)
The "Made in Japan" seems to be the best. |
This is confusing as well;- one of my lenses has "made in Japan" on the front and "Japan" on the mount AND my other lens has nothing on the front but "made in Japan" on the mount _________________ Canon A1, AV1, T70 & T90, EOS 300 and EOS300v, Chinon CE and CP-7M. Contax 139, Fuji STX-2, Konica Autoreflex TC, FS-1, FT-1, Minolta X-700, X-300, XD-11, SRT101b, Nikon EM, FM, F4, F90X, Olympus OM2, Pentax S3, Spotmatic, Pentax ME super, Praktica TL 5B, & BC1, , Ricoh KR10super, Yashica T5D, Bronica Etrs, Mamiya RB67 pro AND drum roll:- a Sony Nex 3
.........past gear Tele Rolleiflex and Rollei SL66.
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Nesster
Joined: 24 Apr 2008 Posts: 5883 Location: NJ, USA
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Posted: Wed May 16, 2012 10:50 am Post subject: |
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Nesster wrote:
A simple rule of Zuiko thumb: if it has letters with the word Zuiko, and says made in Japan on the mount, it's an early version. The oldest have a silver trim on their noses, the next generation doesn't. After that the markings vary, there was a "MC" phase, but Olympus never seems to have made a huge deal about multicoating (and what we call 'single coated' usually means a few coats, not literally single)... usually these later multicoated versions have Japan on the front bezel instead of the mount.
Depending on the lens model, the formula may or may not have changed along the way.
It's not to say that the oldest Zuikos are bad, not to be wanted etc. They are excellent lenses and had they been coke bottles Olympus would not have had such a hit with the OM, now would they? The vintage reviews of the early lenses are uniformly excellent. Where Olympus trailed e.g. Pentax with its SMC is in flare levels. If one is flare phobic, by all means, the later lenses are the ones to get...
I'll have to put this to the test, but I suspect a benefit of simpler coatings is the possibilty of getting some light bloom, which can be very alluring indeed. Also, e.g. with the 85, the earlier versions are softer when opened up, which can be a benefit for portraiture. _________________ -Jussi
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runetk
Joined: 20 May 2012 Posts: 2 Location: Norway
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Posted: Sun May 20, 2012 1:07 pm Post subject: |
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runetk wrote:
Hi
I Also have the olympus OM Zuiko "mij" 50mm f1.8 & the zuiko MC 50mm f1.4...
My experience is that those are almost identical, except the f1.4 is f1.4
And thats quite an advantage when it comes to portrait with special soft effect...
But if im making razior sharp imagest of nature etc... there is no difference.
I wonder if the soft effect is intentional, or just natures law when it comes to optics.
What I mean is most of my subjects doesn't whant razior sharp pictures of their pimples _________________ Rune Kristiansen
Cameras: Canon EOS 5D mk2, EOS-M
Olympus E-M5, E-PL1, Olympus OM 2s/p, OM-1&2
Manual lenses: Olympus OM | zuiko 24mm/28mm/50mm (several), 100mm/135mm/200mm, Yashica ML 50mm f1.7,
Vivitar s1 70.210/etc...
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Nesster
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Posted: Sun May 20, 2012 3:00 pm Post subject: |
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Nesster wrote:
Yes, there seem to be two schools of lens design: ones that change character when closed down, and ones that seek to be consistently sharp all the way through. The consistently sharp designs tend to be the more expensive ones (and do well in tests) so are sought after. The other kind are maybe more useful though as you have some choice. _________________ -Jussi
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