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alaios
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Posted: Wed Nov 12, 2014 8:15 pm Post subject: Do we have new analogue cameras? |
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alaios wrote:
Hi all,
I am wondering about that for some time. Are there manufacturers that would produce new film cameras? I think the only we have are new instant analogue cameras.. but I am looking like a more old approach but with new materials and a guarantee
Perhaps a minolta x-700 just brand new.
Is there something like that?
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Excalibur
Joined: 19 Jul 2009 Posts: 5017 Location: UK
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Posted: Wed Nov 12, 2014 9:06 pm Post subject: |
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Excalibur wrote:
Ah you are forgetting that basically a film camera is a light tight box separating the lens from the photographer so what would a new camera do? Well other than some electronic wizardry that gives 1/15000 sec shutter speed (h'mm not much use unless they produce something like 30,000 ISO film) or some new type of glass that makes the viewfinder brighter...what else will it do. _________________ Canon A1, AV1, T70 & T90, EOS 300 and EOS300v, Chinon CE and CP-7M. Contax 139, Fuji STX-2, Konica Autoreflex TC, FS-1, FT-1, Minolta X-700, X-300, XD-11, SRT101b, Nikon EM, FM, F4, F90X, Olympus OM2, Pentax S3, Spotmatic, Pentax ME super, Praktica TL 5B, & BC1, , Ricoh KR10super, Yashica T5D, Bronica Etrs, Mamiya RB67 pro AND drum roll:- a Sony Nex 3
.........past gear Tele Rolleiflex and Rollei SL66.
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kansalliskala
Joined: 19 Jul 2007 Posts: 5039 Location: Southern Finland countryside
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Posted: Wed Nov 12, 2014 9:07 pm Post subject: |
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kansalliskala wrote:
I think we have somewhere here topics about this? Because I started at least one of them - but they haven't been updated for a while.
Canon 1V might still be sold, can't find it although.
Nikon F6 might be too?
http://www.nikonusa.com/en/Nikon-Products/Product/Film-Cameras/F6.html
locally this is the final Bessa R4A
http://www.rajalacamera.fi/voigtlander-bessa-r4a.html _________________ MF: Kodak DCS SLR/c; Samsung NX10; OM-10; Canon T50
Zuiko 28/3.5, Distagon 35/2.8; Yashica ML 50/2;
Zuiko 50/1.4; S-M-C 120/2.8; Zuiko 135/3.5; 200/5;
Tamron AD1 135/2.8, Soligor 180/3.5; Tamron AD1 300/5.6
Tamron zooms: 01A, Z-210
Yashicaflex C; Київ 4 + Юпитер 8, 11; Polaroid 100; Olympus XA; Yashica T3
Museum stuff: Certo-Phot; Tele-Edixon 135; Polaris 90-190; Asahi Bellows; Ixus IIs
Projects: Agfa Isolette III (no shutter), Canon AE-1D (no sensor),
Nikon D80 (dead), The "Peace Camera"
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BurstMox
Joined: 04 Dec 2011 Posts: 2018 Location: France
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Posted: Thu Nov 13, 2014 3:02 am Post subject: |
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BurstMox wrote:
KMZ still produce some Zenit, but I'm not sure that is what you are looking for
http://www.shop.zenit-foto.ru/fototekhnika/fotoapparaty/zerkalnye-fotoapparaty _________________ Pierre
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TrueLoveOne
Joined: 30 Sep 2012 Posts: 1839 Location: Netherlands
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Posted: Thu Nov 13, 2014 6:27 am Post subject: |
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TrueLoveOne wrote:
Why does it have to be new? I use many old film cameras, never giving me any trouble. The cams from the last era of non-AF (like the X700 and all other major brands) are really good and well built, they're still going to last you for ages and come very cheap.
Replacing light-seals and doing some small reapairs is something i enjoy doing, it's a hobby!
When in doubt: have one professionally CLA-ed, that should give you some guarantee! _________________ My Flickr photostream: http://www.flickr.com/photos/chantalrene/
Sony A7, Canon 5D mkII, Minolta 7D + RD3000 and some more.....
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duckrider
Joined: 11 Dec 2013 Posts: 437 Location: Germany
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Posted: Thu Nov 13, 2014 6:38 am Post subject: |
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duckrider wrote:
new film camera?
of course!
http://us.leica-camera.com/Photography/Leica-M/Leica-M-A/Details _________________ T*homas
(from the origin land of Zeiss, an obligation )
Zeiss ZF 3.5/18, 2.8/25, 2.0/35, 2/50macro, 1.4/50, 1.4/85, 2/100macro
Nikon Df, F2AS, F2A, F3/T, FM
ALPA 11Si, Angulon 2,8/35 ; Xenar 1,9/50 ; Tele-Tessar 4/200
Leica R3 SAFARI Safari Lenses 2.8/28 ; 2/50 ; 4/180
Rolleiflex SL 350 , Zeiss 2,8/16 ; 4/18 ; 2,8/25 ; 2,8/35 ; 1,4/35 ; 1,8/50 ; 2,8/85 ; 1,4/85 ; 4/135 ; 4/200
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David
Joined: 13 Apr 2011 Posts: 1869 Location: Denver, Colorado
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Posted: Thu Nov 13, 2014 7:54 am Post subject: |
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David wrote:
Nikon FM10, Holgas, Travelwide, Cambo SCN, Gibellini, Periodic Rolleiflexes, Seagull 4A and 4B, Recesky TLR, Blackbird, Viddy, Ilford Titan, and some others I'm blanking on.
Yes, film cameras are still made though few are the classic system cameras. _________________ http://www.youtube.com/user/hancockDavidM |
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alaios
Joined: 24 Jan 2014 Posts: 724
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Posted: Thu Nov 13, 2014 8:15 am Post subject: |
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alaios wrote:
Excalibur wrote: |
Ah you are forgetting that basically a film camera is a light tight box separating the lens from the photographer so what would a new camera do? Well other than some electronic wizardry that gives 1/15000 sec shutter speed (h'mm not much use unless they produce something like 30,000 ISO film) or some new type of glass that makes the viewfinder brighter...what else will it do. |
I just would like to have options in viewfinders without looking for spare parts on ebay.. have some technical services close by. My minolta x-700 works for example but I am not happy with how clean viewfinder is for example |
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Excalibur
Joined: 19 Jul 2009 Posts: 5017 Location: UK
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Posted: Thu Nov 13, 2014 8:53 am Post subject: |
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Excalibur wrote:
alaios wrote: |
Excalibur wrote: |
Ah you are forgetting that basically a film camera is a light tight box separating the lens from the photographer so what would a new camera do? Well other than some electronic wizardry that gives 1/15000 sec shutter speed (h'mm not much use unless they produce something like 30,000 ISO film) or some new type of glass that makes the viewfinder brighter...what else will it do. |
I just would like to have options in viewfinders without looking for spare parts on ebay.. have some technical services close by. My minolta x-700 works for example but I am not happy with how clean viewfinder is for example |
Well there can't be many 30 year old cameras with "as new" viewfinders. The camera can be cleaned but it would cost more than the camera is worth...what you can do is ask the forum "what camera has the brightest viewfinder and also best for focusing" and go from there as comparing my camera collection they do vary e.g the Konica TC is darker and my Pentax S3 (1960) is not the best for focusing. _________________ Canon A1, AV1, T70 & T90, EOS 300 and EOS300v, Chinon CE and CP-7M. Contax 139, Fuji STX-2, Konica Autoreflex TC, FS-1, FT-1, Minolta X-700, X-300, XD-11, SRT101b, Nikon EM, FM, F4, F90X, Olympus OM2, Pentax S3, Spotmatic, Pentax ME super, Praktica TL 5B, & BC1, , Ricoh KR10super, Yashica T5D, Bronica Etrs, Mamiya RB67 pro AND drum roll:- a Sony Nex 3
.........past gear Tele Rolleiflex and Rollei SL66.
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LucisPictor
Joined: 26 Feb 2007 Posts: 17633 Location: Oberhessen, Germany / Maidstone ('95-'96)
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Posted: Thu Nov 13, 2014 9:15 am Post subject: |
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LucisPictor wrote:
Oh, I don't know. I have several "old" cameras here which are just "like new", also the viewfinder.
I really think that you could find a used one which satisfies your needs. _________________ Personal forum activity on pause every now and again (due to job obligations)!
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Old list: http://forum.mflenses.com/viewtopic.php?t=65 (Not up-to-date, sorry!) | http://www.lucispictor.de | http://www.alensaweek.wordpress.com |
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Excalibur
Joined: 19 Jul 2009 Posts: 5017 Location: UK
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Posted: Thu Nov 13, 2014 9:43 am Post subject: |
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Excalibur wrote:
LucisPictor wrote: |
Oh, I don't know. I have several "old" cameras here which are just "like new", also the viewfinder.
I really think that you could find a used one which satisfies your needs. |
Well unless the camera is assembled and kept on the moon , as if fungus can reached the viewfinder so can pollution from the atmosphere. _________________ Canon A1, AV1, T70 & T90, EOS 300 and EOS300v, Chinon CE and CP-7M. Contax 139, Fuji STX-2, Konica Autoreflex TC, FS-1, FT-1, Minolta X-700, X-300, XD-11, SRT101b, Nikon EM, FM, F4, F90X, Olympus OM2, Pentax S3, Spotmatic, Pentax ME super, Praktica TL 5B, & BC1, , Ricoh KR10super, Yashica T5D, Bronica Etrs, Mamiya RB67 pro AND drum roll:- a Sony Nex 3
.........past gear Tele Rolleiflex and Rollei SL66.
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LucisPictor
Joined: 26 Feb 2007 Posts: 17633 Location: Oberhessen, Germany / Maidstone ('95-'96)
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Posted: Thu Nov 13, 2014 2:41 pm Post subject: |
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LucisPictor wrote:
Of course you will spot some dust in most viewfinder, but there are some which are immaculate, because there are some cams that have always been treated like gems by their owners. _________________ Personal forum activity on pause every now and again (due to job obligations)!
Carsten, former Moderator
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My gear: http://retrocameracs.wordpress.com/ausrustung/
Old list: http://forum.mflenses.com/viewtopic.php?t=65 (Not up-to-date, sorry!) | http://www.lucispictor.de | http://www.alensaweek.wordpress.com |
http://www.retrocamera.de |
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philslizzy
Joined: 07 Aug 2012 Posts: 4744 Location: Cheshire, England
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Posted: Fri Nov 14, 2014 11:09 am Post subject: |
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philslizzy wrote:
if a dedicated neg scanner is out of your range, then a new film camera will cost 5 - 10 times as much. However, have hope. here is one that fits the bill:
Its inexpensive, it comes with a free film and is available new and locally.
_________________ Hero in the 'messin-with-cameras-for-the-hell-of-it department'. Official. |
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alaios
Joined: 24 Jan 2014 Posts: 724
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Posted: Fri Nov 14, 2014 12:29 pm Post subject: |
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alaios wrote:
Thanks most of the cameras you have suggested as new.. I could not find them on amazon... and some of them were listed on ebay but then prices were very very expensive.
Thanks for the suggestions though.
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kansalliskala
Joined: 19 Jul 2007 Posts: 5039 Location: Southern Finland countryside
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Posted: Fri Nov 14, 2014 7:53 pm Post subject: |
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kansalliskala wrote:
you are really not great at searching Internet, I think you could attend some course
http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=sr_nr_p_n_condition-type_0?rh=n%3A172282%2Cn%3A502394%2Cn%3A7161070011%2Cn%3A499106%2Cn%3A291226%2Ck%3Afilm+camera+35mm%2Cp_n_condition-type%3A2224371011&keywords=film+camera+35mm&ie=UTF8&qid=1415994719&rnid=2224369011 _________________ MF: Kodak DCS SLR/c; Samsung NX10; OM-10; Canon T50
Zuiko 28/3.5, Distagon 35/2.8; Yashica ML 50/2;
Zuiko 50/1.4; S-M-C 120/2.8; Zuiko 135/3.5; 200/5;
Tamron AD1 135/2.8, Soligor 180/3.5; Tamron AD1 300/5.6
Tamron zooms: 01A, Z-210
Yashicaflex C; Київ 4 + Юпитер 8, 11; Polaroid 100; Olympus XA; Yashica T3
Museum stuff: Certo-Phot; Tele-Edixon 135; Polaris 90-190; Asahi Bellows; Ixus IIs
Projects: Agfa Isolette III (no shutter), Canon AE-1D (no sensor),
Nikon D80 (dead), The "Peace Camera"
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alaios
Joined: 24 Jan 2014 Posts: 724
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Posted: Fri Nov 14, 2014 8:47 pm Post subject: |
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alaios wrote:
I meant the german amazon. Regarding taking courses for searching perhaps I will have to do. I am not as good as you for sure.
Alex |
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moltogordo
Joined: 16 Mar 2014 Posts: 46 Location: Prince George, British Columbia
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Posted: Fri Nov 28, 2014 4:32 am Post subject: |
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moltogordo wrote:
I collect cameras, and perhaps can give you a hint or two. The Nikon FM10 is still made, and is a nice little manual camera that comes with a standard zoom lens for around $300 US. Here's a link: http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/112196-USA/Nikon_1689_FM10_35mm_SLR_Camera.html
I think it's your best bet for a manual 35mm new machine.
If you wish to go the used route, know that the Pentax DSLRs are backwards compatible and will take old Pentax lenses, which are very good. This makes the manual MX, and K1000 very good film cameras to own because you can swap lenses. A good MX can be had for about $120 US. It's an excellent camera, very small, and very sturdy. I have four, and they all work well. The K1000 isn't quite as small, but it's a rock, and can usually be had for about the same price. This was a favored camera of schools and college media programs.
Nikon DSLRs will take old Nikon lenses, too, but only in manual mode. Best bets for picking up a used Nikon are the F3 and the FM2. Oddly enough, a good FM2 (Nikon's second echelon camera) fetch hire prices than the flagship F3. The FM2 is completely manual, and retro owners like that. A good used one is about $150. I got mine for $75. Looks a bit rough but works fine. F3s can be had very reasonably. I've seen good ones as low as $100 for a body, and almost mint ones about $200. There's lots of them around.
My personal recommendations in this area are the MX and the FM2. You can't go wrong with either one. Nor with a K100 or F3. They stand the test of time . . . I've never bought an MX or FM2 that didn't work used. Very well built cameras.
Another reason for my recommending Pentax/Nikon is that their Tamron adapters are generally excellent and have a simple fit. Tamron Adaptalls are about the best bang for the buck in the used lens market. I've never got on that was badly fungused, and they are all sharp and fit and work well on the digital DSLRs.
Other cameras that I'd recommend as cheap users would be the Canon FtB, the Olympus OM1, and the Minolta SRT101. All sturdy, all have good lenses available. Any of these vintage SLRs, though, will no usually have working meters. Something about the lifespan of the selenium compounds used in the cells. Whatever the case, there is a whack of good used cameras out there.
If your taste is medium format, I'd look into the Mamiya TLRs. A good used C330 can be had for $150 bucks, and it'll beat the quality stuffing out of any 35mm on the planet.
Have fun! _________________ If you prefer "I think, therefore I am" to "non sum qualis eram", you are putting Descartes before Horace. |
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kuuan
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Posted: Fri Nov 28, 2014 3:06 pm Post subject: |
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kuuan wrote:
there is quite a number of film cameras that had been produced until after 2000, the Fuji Klasse only was released in 2007.
However they were not made for interchangeable lenses but are compacts usually with a fixed lens. The Klasse W sports a 2.8/28, the Klasse S a 2.8/38mm lens.
Various Contax cameras, T2, T3 come with a 2.8/38 resp, 35mm lens, TVsII has a 30-60mm zoom, most produced, I believe, until 2007 by Kyocera.
Minolta made a TC-1 with a 3.5/28mm lens, Nikon the 28ti and 35ti and Ricoh the GR1 variants with a 2.8/28 and the GR21 with a f3.5/21mm lens.
All are rather high end models _________________ my photos on flickr: https://www.flickr.com/photos/kuuan/collections |
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cooltouch
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Posted: Sun Nov 30, 2014 3:55 am Post subject: |
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cooltouch wrote:
If a primary objection to a used camera is dust or dirt in the viewfinder and the fact that getting it cleaned will cost more than the camera is worth, then here's my 2 cents:
Buy a professional 35mm camera that has a removable prism, and interchangeable focusing screens, That way, when a bit of dust gets into the viewfinder, you just pop it off, blow out the dust, pop out the focusing screen and clean it as well (carefully, though!), and reassemble. The most popular and practical cameras that fall into this category are the pro models that were made by Canon and Nikon. And, because film cameras have become devalued because of digital, it's possible to pick up some really great pieces for cheap. Canon's original F1 and New F1, Nikon's F-series from the original F all the way to the F6 (I guess the F6 still has a removable finder, right?) -- any of these will give you the flexibility you need and are also some of the best picture taking tools ever produced. Problem solved. Oh, and you most likely won't need to worry about longevity, either. I have a Canon F1 that's about 38 years old, a New F1 that's probably about 30 years old, a couple of Nikon F2s that are in their 30s and an F3HP that's probably close to that. All of them work as well now as they day they trundled off their respective assembly lines. And they'll probably still be working long after the "Nikon" FM10 has been tossed into the dust bin. Isn't the FM10 actually built by Cosina?
Sometimes, old is just plain better than new. That is certainly the case when it comes to film gear. _________________ Michael
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alaios
Joined: 24 Jan 2014 Posts: 724
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Posted: Tue Dec 02, 2014 7:56 am Post subject: |
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alaios wrote:
cooltouch wrote: |
If a primary objection to a used camera is dust or dirt in the viewfinder and the fact that getting it cleaned will cost more than the camera is worth, then here's my 2 cents:
Buy a professional 35mm camera that has a removable prism, and interchangeable focusing screens, That way, when a bit of dust gets into the viewfinder, you just pop it off, blow out the dust, pop out the focusing screen and clean it as well (carefully, though!), and reassemble. The most popular and practical cameras that fall into this category are the pro models that were made by Canon and Nikon. And, because film cameras have become devalued because of digital, it's possible to pick up some really great pieces for cheap. Canon's original F1 and New F1, Nikon's F-series from the original F all the way to the F6 (I guess the F6 still has a removable finder, right?) -- any of these will give you the flexibility you need and are also some of the best picture taking tools ever produced. Problem solved. Oh, and you most likely won't need to worry about longevity, either. I have a Canon F1 that's about 38 years old, a New F1 that's probably about 30 years old, a couple of Nikon F2s that are in their 30s and an F3HP that's probably close to that. All of them work as well now as they day they trundled off their respective assembly lines. And they'll probably still be working long after the "Nikon" FM10 has been tossed into the dust bin. Isn't the FM10 actually built by Cosina?
Sometimes, old is just plain better than new. That is certainly the case when it comes to film gear. |
Hi,
so great advice.. I will go and look to some of these new ones... I guess I should be able to use my minolta lenses there with an adapter.
Regards
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philslizzy
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Posted: Tue Dec 02, 2014 12:35 pm Post subject: |
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philslizzy wrote:
Limited adaptor availability for Minolta lenses some have lenses in. I use one for my Nikon I'm happy with it. Stick to your X700 its a great camera but an SRT model would be better, not battery dependent. _________________ Hero in the 'messin-with-cameras-for-the-hell-of-it department'. Official. |
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cooltouch
Joined: 15 Jan 2009 Posts: 9096 Location: Houston, Texas
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Posted: Wed Dec 03, 2014 8:21 pm Post subject: |
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cooltouch wrote:
Or, given that you shoot Minolta, you might want to look around for an XK -- that was Minolta's pro equivalent back in its day. A very fine camera, made in regular and motor drive versions. Removable finder and focusing screens. It's a very cool camera. _________________ Michael
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PWhite214
Joined: 19 Apr 2014 Posts: 230 Location: Houston, Texas
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Posted: Thu Dec 04, 2014 3:04 am Post subject: |
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PWhite214 wrote:
I looked at the prices on the XK here on EBAY (USA). http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_sacat=0&_nkw=minolta+xk&_frs=1
Not for the small budget. Sure looks nice though.
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philslizzy
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Posted: Thu Dec 04, 2014 12:55 pm Post subject: |
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philslizzy wrote:
Analogue cameras existed sometime between film and digital and are not available any more. They were otherwise known as still video cameras - like this Nikon.
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