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francotirador
Joined: 17 Sep 2009 Posts: 894
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Posted: Sun Dec 20, 2009 3:30 am Post subject: Distagon 21mm & Canon 17/40 L |
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francotirador wrote:
http://www.16-9.net/lens_tests/1740.html
I doubt there is a wide angle, better than the Distagon.
Although the comparison is not the most just. _________________ Canon 5D II-Sony nex 6
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greg
Joined: 21 Mar 2009 Posts: 683
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Posted: Sun Dec 20, 2009 3:58 pm Post subject: |
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greg wrote:
My only question is-
why post process the RAW images at all when doing lens tests? |
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ik13
Joined: 07 Oct 2009 Posts: 10
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Posted: Wed Dec 23, 2009 5:05 pm Post subject: |
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ik13 wrote:
greg wrote: |
My only question is-
why post process the RAW images at all when doing lens tests? |
How can you compare RAW files then? |
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rbelyell
Joined: 13 Oct 2009 Posts: 4269 Location: somewhere in the mountains of central NY
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Posted: Wed Dec 23, 2009 5:18 pm Post subject: |
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rbelyell wrote:
interesting, esp as its an L lens, the best canon has, yes? do you know a good price for the distagon? _________________ Epson RD1 + Elmarit 21/2.8; Summarit 50/1.5; Summarit 75/2.5; Elmar-c 90/4; Sankyo Komura 135/2.8, Hektor 135/4.5; Braun Paxina 29 6x6; Photax Boyer Paris; Holga 120 Pano
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fatdeeman
Joined: 13 Jun 2009 Posts: 780 Location: UK
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Posted: Wed Dec 23, 2009 10:14 pm Post subject: |
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fatdeeman wrote:
Something looks very wrong with that canon lens |
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fatdeeman
Joined: 13 Jun 2009 Posts: 780 Location: UK
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Posted: Wed Dec 23, 2009 10:20 pm Post subject: |
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fatdeeman wrote:
"My Canon 17-40mm f4 L convincingly and consistently outperformed Canon's own 20mm, 24mm and 28mm f2.8 prime"
So the guy is saying there is an even bigger gap between zeiss and the canon primes?
Something doesn't add up, I don't know if he's had several bad copies or what but my sigma 18-50mm EX is MUCH sharper than that and I know for a fact it isn't as good as the canon lens because I've tried both.
Even my kit lens has better corner sharpness than that. |
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ManualFocus-G
Joined: 29 Dec 2008 Posts: 6622 Location: United Kingdom
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Posted: Wed Dec 23, 2009 10:35 pm Post subject: |
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ManualFocus-G wrote:
rbelyell wrote: |
interesting, esp as its an L lens, the best canon has, yes? do you know a good price for the distagon? |
The last one on Ebay went for $1500.00, with new ZE ones going for around $1900.00 _________________ Graham - Moderator
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fatdeeman
Joined: 13 Jun 2009 Posts: 780 Location: UK
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Posted: Wed Dec 23, 2009 11:48 pm Post subject: |
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fatdeeman wrote:
I know the specifics of the shot are a lot different but I just wanted to give this example taken with my kit lens.
I really find it difficult to believe that he has an optimal example of the lens when my kit lens can out perform it easily so it's not really a fair comparison.
I'm not trying to bash the Zeiss lens at all but everyone should know a Canon L doesn't look like that in the edges at F/11, at least not one that's working properly. |
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Carlsson
Joined: 26 Jul 2008 Posts: 793 Location: Portugal
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Posted: Thu Dec 24, 2009 12:23 am Post subject: |
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Carlsson wrote:
fatdeeman wrote: |
I really find it difficult to believe that he has an optimal example of the lens when my kit lens can out perform it easily so it's not really a fair comparison. |
From the bottom of the site:
I know what you're thinking - "no fair to compare a wide zoom with a wide prime" - but here's the kicker: in similar tests, my Canon 17-40mm f4 L convincingly and consistently outperformed Canon's own 20mm, 24mm and 28mm f2.8 primes at f8 and f11 - which in turn perform at least as well as their L-series equivalents at these apertures.
This page was originally built to prove to Canon that I had a bad sample. It's behaviour was curious, however: it was as though the lens was acceptably (but not impressively) sharp at a focal length of 17.85mm, but hopelessly soft (as you see here) at 17.9mm. Quite often it would just pop a stinker for no apparent reason. Eventually, after three months haggling, Canon accepted the lens back and the dealer refunded the money, but as you can imagine, as a Nikon convert's first Canon L lens, my faith in the brand was tarnished for some time.
fatdeeman wrote: |
I'm not trying to bash the Zeiss lens at all but everyone should know a Canon L doesn't look like that in the edges at F/11, at least not one that's working properly. |
No need for bashing, here he did a test with a second copy: http://www.16-9.net/ultrawides
And about the difference between the D21 and a 17-40. For me there are two, first you don't have to to worry about getting a bad copy because you won't find one, second a Distagon 21 is a Distagon 21 _________________
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