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PostPosted: Thu Dec 16, 2010 10:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
these things like ergonomics and color are completely subjective, no right or wrong answer. i am having the same ergonomic issues with the new rollei rf i just purchased. its obviously a great camera w fabulous lenses, but i am having a helluva time handling it, just doesnt feel good and i find the vf difficult, which i know is akin to sacrilige. and no offense to anyone as i know they are nice lenses, but i do not at all like the results i get from taks, and ive thus sold them all (28, 35, 100 and 135) except for the 50/1.4 which i actually like to use indoors with film.

btw, i dont know what the previous gentleman was talking about as i shoot c/y lenses on my canon all the time....


PostPosted: Thu Dec 16, 2010 10:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
kuuan wrote:

annoyance of having to hold down the green button while..?
no, that's not right!


For me the aperture selection is very important, I like to see what will be in focus and how deep the depth of field is as I'm going along, not in the last moment. Having another button to press slows down the whole process and sometimes speed is important.


PostPosted: Thu Dec 16, 2010 10:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
William wrote:
kuuan wrote:

annoyance of having to hold down the green button while..?
no, that's not right!


For me the aperture selection is very important, I like to see what will be in focus and how deep the depth of field is as I'm going along, not in the last moment. Having another button to press slows down the whole process and sometimes speed is important.


hm, keeping the green button pressed does the same thing as if pressing it once 'shortly':
it stoppes down the M lens and then makes a metering, and the lens immediately will go back to wide open. ( or makes metering only in case of M42 lenses )
There is no continuos dof preview when holding the green button pressed. keeping the green button pressed down does not have any function at all..

nor do I understand what you mean to say by 'having to hold the green button pressed down for metering?? pressing the green button once does the metering. how do you do the metering then?

M42 lenses will give continuous dof preview, but they do dim the viewfinder when stopping down.

if you don't want to use the green button you don't 'have' to use it, but it is an aid for correct exposure
I often do not use it. Well, usually I use it for starters, the first shot, see the result, adjust exposure if needed, and then let the setting there for the next few shots in case I know that light has not changed resp. change the shutter speed accordingly with the wheel in case light or my aperture setting has changed.

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PostPosted: Thu Dec 16, 2010 11:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
My biggest problem is getting focus spot on. So unless I'm using a wide lens (where I'm generally just scale focusing), or using a lens wide open, the Pentax support for the K-mount auto operation is very valuable.

Metering is less of an issue; AV or M mode, its all the same, as generally test shots are best; thats one of the best features of a DSLR, you can make exposure certain.

And then there is IS. If you like them long, this changes the game completely. 300mm snapshots !


PostPosted: Fri Dec 17, 2010 1:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
kuuan wrote:

hm, keeping the green button pressed does the same thing as if pressing it once 'shortly':
it stoppes down the M lens and then makes a metering, and the lens immediately will go back to wide open. ( or makes metering only in case of M42 lenses )


Ah, I've checked and by default the green button does that. If you set it to "optical preview" then holding it down will keep the lens stepped down. That does not happen when the green button is on default mode.


PostPosted: Fri Dec 17, 2010 2:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
William wrote:
kuuan wrote:

hm, keeping the green button pressed does the same thing as if pressing it once 'shortly':
it stoppes down the M lens and then makes a metering, and the lens immediately will go back to wide open. ( or makes metering only in case of M42 lenses )


Ah, I've checked and by default the green button does that. If you set it to "optical preview" then holding it down will keep the lens stepped down. That does not happen when the green button is on default mode.


ah thank you, was almost expecting this.
I use 95% M42 which means permanent dof 'preview'..and a dimming viewfinder.
had never used the dof preview feature for K lenses, but will set it now Smile
a neat option, I'd think, but you say it annoys you.
do other cameras than Pentax behave in a way which you prefer?
the Canon? how does it meter? I don't even know, I hardly have experience with other than Pentax.
for dof preview, wouldn't it be similar to using M42 on Pentax?


PostPosted: Fri Dec 17, 2010 6:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
kuuan wrote:

...for dof preview, wouldn't it be similar to using M42 on Pentax?

Yes.


PostPosted: Fri Dec 17, 2010 12:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
kuuan wrote:

I use 95% M42 which means permanent dof 'preview'..and a dimming viewfinder.
had never used the dof preview feature for K lenses, but will set it now Smile
a neat option, I'd think, but you say it annoys you.
do other cameras than Pentax behave in a way which you prefer?
the Canon? how does it meter? I don't even know, I hardly have experience with other than Pentax.
for dof preview, wouldn't it be similar to using M42 on Pentax?


The Canon metered as I manually stopped down the lens. Admittedly not as well as the Pentax does. With any adapter (flanged for auto lenses) I went to the stop I wanted to use and focused in it, in low light I'd open it up a bit first for a brighter viewfinder. This was easiest with Nikon lenses as they have full stops, not half like most others. 5 clicks from open on a 50 1.4 and I was at f8.


PostPosted: Mon Dec 20, 2010 1:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
I am starting to get used to stop down metering. The Smc-m 50 1.7 is proving to be a fantastic lens and very good value for money. The battery life of this camera is very impressive. After 859 shots I have just depleted the lithium batteries which came with it. I have decided to keep this camera for a while and get an Smc-m 24/28mm and a short telephoto. It's not worth using m42 lenses unless I use them exclusively as the adaptor is such a pain to remove and is not something i'd like to do when out and about.
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