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Pancolart
Joined: 04 Feb 2008 Posts: 3705 Location: Slovenia, EU
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Posted: Fri Jan 10, 2014 9:56 am Post subject: De Oude Delft - Rayxar 0.75/50mm PROJECT |
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Pancolart wrote:
I am interested if anyone has succeed adapting this lens or modifying it to show some of its potential. Don't forget, lens is sharp if properly used: extremely short flange, small image circle. Sadly I cannot put it close enough to Pentax Q's sensor due to electronic contacts. Nikon J1?
I do like to share something i found out:
1. You can use lens without rear lens system, this way enlarging image size to full frame as well increasing flange.
2. You can insert rear system reversed and again lens is usable.
But results to be posted i would have to put more effort then to handheld lens in front of camera. _________________ ---------------------------------
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duckrider
Joined: 11 Dec 2013 Posts: 437 Location: Germany
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Posted: Fri Jan 10, 2014 11:59 am Post subject: |
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duckrider wrote:
have a lokk at this:
http://www.oldlens.com/delftrayxar50f075.html _________________ T*homas
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Pancolart
Joined: 04 Feb 2008 Posts: 3705 Location: Slovenia, EU
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Posted: Fri Jan 10, 2014 3:48 pm Post subject: |
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Pancolart wrote:
Thanks Thomas, looks nice. _________________ ---------------------------------
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iangreenhalgh1
Joined: 18 Mar 2011 Posts: 15679
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Posted: Fri Jan 10, 2014 5:42 pm Post subject: |
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iangreenhalgh1 wrote:
Looks like a lot of effort for very poor results. What's the point? _________________ I don't care who designed it, who made it or what country it comes from - I just enjoy using it! |
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Pancolart
Joined: 04 Feb 2008 Posts: 3705 Location: Slovenia, EU
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Posted: Sat Jan 11, 2014 2:58 pm Post subject: |
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Pancolart wrote:
Looking at the photos more thoroughly and comparing to my results i am confident Mr. Miyazaki secret is either first or second variant:
1. lens without rear lens system, this way enlarging image size to full frame as well increasing flange
2. rear system inserted reversed and again lens is usable
Rear system consist of few glued elements and can be taken out as one part. It can be inserted reversed.
Nevertheless the usage presented is still very defect. Lens unaltered produces better results. Still waiting for proof of that . _________________ ---------------------------------
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kds315*
Joined: 12 Mar 2008 Posts: 16644 Location: Weinheim, Germany
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Posted: Sat Jan 11, 2014 5:17 pm Post subject: |
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kds315* wrote:
Neither is. If having read what he has done and looked at the mount, all he has done is
modify the lens mechanics to allow it to mount it to a Leica-M mount as deep as possible
with no focusing. _________________ Klaus - Admin
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iangreenhalgh1
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Posted: Sat Jan 11, 2014 6:56 pm Post subject: |
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iangreenhalgh1 wrote:
Yes, as Klaus says, it's not modified, just mounted as close as possible, which is still not close enough for infinity - the back focus at infinity is only 1mm. The images have been cropped square because the lens doesn't cover the 1.3x crop sensor.
The quality is awful, hence I say what is the point when all you are going to get is very soft, low contrast images of objects only a few metres from the camera and heavy vignetting.
Removing or reversing the rear part is crazy, the result is likely to be something very screwed up indeed, the lens might not even resolve an image. _________________ I don't care who designed it, who made it or what country it comes from - I just enjoy using it! |
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Pancolart
Joined: 04 Feb 2008 Posts: 3705 Location: Slovenia, EU
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Posted: Sat Jan 11, 2014 9:34 pm Post subject: |
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Pancolart wrote:
kds315* wrote: |
Neither is. If having read what he has done and looked at the mount, all he has done is
modify the lens mechanics to allow it to mount it to a Leica-M mount as deep as possible
with no focusing. |
Leica M8: 27 x 18mm CCD sensor.
Here author says: ...is an original full screen image.
This lens IMHO has modified optics. Normally it should not cover area this large. Indeed i forget the 3rd option it could have been done: adding space between front and rear system. _________________ ---------------------------------
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