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CZJ Sonnar 4/135 and Triotar 4/135. I understand now !
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 14, 2009 10:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Seele wrote:
My copy of Triotar 135/4 is a little later with scalloped focussing ring grip and focussing is also a little stiff, so I am looking forward to hearing from someone with first-hand experiences.

Olivier, there is a certain "quietness" (can't think of another word) in the Triotar images that I find appealing. I tend to get that from Meyer lenses as well, like the shorter Primotars: Primotar-E 50/3.5 for instance.


Seele, I understand what you mean.
A kind of quiet strength. Smile


PostPosted: Mon Dec 14, 2009 10:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Almost all alu/chrome CZJ lenses are stiff these days if they weren't relubed. I have two Biotars (12-bladed T pre-set and 17-bladed T manual), both of them were stiff and both of them are fine now (both my repairmen are handy)


PostPosted: Tue Dec 15, 2009 4:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
Very good gallery, I like the image of the sonnar. Tomorrow I get mine, f3.5 MC red. I'm anxious. Wink


PostPosted: Tue Dec 15, 2009 4:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
Spotmatic wrote:
Olivier wrote:
Spotmatic wrote:
Oh yes, now I remember! Do you see the slotted tube in the back? Unscrew this and the whole optical block comes off at the front (only the focusing helicoid stays). Then you should be able to put the optical block back in the correct position.


A big Thank you, Peter !

I'll see that when I'll feel cool to try to open it.
Cheers.


Please do; it's quite simple and more than 5 minutes is not needed (if at all).


I also thank you, surely the f3.5 is similar and sometimes I'll have to open.


PostPosted: Tue Dec 15, 2009 9:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
francotirador wrote:
Very good gallery, I like the image of the sonnar. Tomorrow I get mine, f3.5 MC red. I'm anxious. Wink


Thank you francotirador. Smile


PostPosted: Tue Dec 15, 2009 9:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
I will share little secret with you. This procedure goes especially well with old alu Sonnars and Triotars, but don't use it on newer lenses.

You know the disinfection liquid used in hospitals by doctors and nurses for their hands? Well, put few drops from bottom side of the lens on inner housing , avoid glass of course. It will be easier if you focus on min. distance. This liquid is cool since it makes dried grease softer and also leaves some kind of lubricant behind that helps even more. If you won't use lens for a while you might have to repeat the procedure. Ebay sellers beware - if you'll write "smooth focussing" in the description you might get negative feedback since after lens reaches the buyer it will be stiff again Wink .


PostPosted: Wed Dec 16, 2009 11:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
Pancolart wrote:
I will share little secret with you. This procedure goes especially well with old alu Sonnars and Triotars, but don't use it on newer lenses.

You know the disinfection liquid used in hospitals by doctors and nurses for their hands? Well, put few drops from bottom side of the lens on inner housing , avoid glass of course. It will be easier if you focus on min. distance. This liquid is cool since it makes dried grease softer and also leaves some kind of lubricant behind that helps even more. If you won't use lens for a while you might have to repeat the procedure. Wink .


Shocked

Would it be the same liquid as hydroalcoholic soap used to dry wash hands ?


PostPosted: Wed Dec 16, 2009 12:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
I am not familiar with yours, but try it out!


PostPosted: Wed Dec 16, 2009 1:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
I'll see, Pancolart. Wink

Some Triotar shots taken yesterday as weather was very cold and sunny.
Gallery updated.









PostPosted: Wed Dec 16, 2009 2:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Great samples Olivier!!


PostPosted: Wed Dec 16, 2009 3:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Thank you Attila.

Despite the stiff focus ring...
Ouch, my wrist... Laughing


PostPosted: Sat Dec 19, 2009 10:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Olivier wrote:
Thank you Attila.

Despite the stiff focus ring...
Ouch, my wrist... Laughing


I am not kidding you. This is the product: Skinman soft N by ECOLAB.


PostPosted: Sun Dec 20, 2009 7:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Pancolart wrote:
Olivier wrote:
Thank you Attila.

Despite the stiff focus ring...
Ouch, my wrist... Laughing


I am not kidding you. This is the product: Skinman soft N by ECOLAB.


Pancolart, I know you're not kidding me. Wink
I just mentioned that I didn't fix it yet and despite that, I manage to take shots with it.


PostPosted: Thu Jan 29, 2015 6:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Hi, I have a Sonnar now (4/135) and the focus ring is absolutely stiff. I read some of you had a stiff focus, too. I cannot even wind a little bit.
I am not sure whether liquid helps.
What do you think?

It is a very nice lens, and I want to use it. It is fix at infinite ...

Best regards
Bernd from Dresden


PostPosted: Thu Jan 29, 2015 7:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Hello Bernd.
Welcome here ! Very Happy

I've just have a look at my sonnar and triotar.
I'm surprised that my triotar is not so stiff today.
The smell makes me remind that I put a few drops of gun's oïl.
It works fine ! (avoid glass of course).

and I think you should try Pancolart's tip.

Pancolart wrote:
I will share little secret with you. This procedure goes especially well with old alu Sonnars and Triotars, but don't use it on newer lenses.
You know the disinfection liquid used in hospitals by doctors and nurses for their hands? Well, put few drops from bottom side of the lens on inner housing , avoid glass of course. It will be easier if you focus on min. distance. This liquid is cool since it makes dried grease softer and also leaves some kind of lubricant behind that helps even more. If you won't use lens for a while you might have to repeat the procedure.



Oh, and you should try to dismount the front
Spotmatic wrote:
Oh yes, now I remember! Do you see the slotted tube in the back? Unscrew this and the whole optical block comes off at the front (only the focusing helicoid stays). Then you should be able to put the optical block back in the correct position.
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