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BurstMox
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Posted: Thu Jan 03, 2013 3:18 pm Post subject: |
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I think you must also try out the proper Cyclop version. |
What do u mean by proper version? Looks like ROMZ did several different versions...
I know this one is not derivated from Helios 40, but still funny to use . _________________ Pierre
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Pancolart
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Posted: Thu Jan 03, 2013 9:55 pm Post subject: |
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Pancolart wrote:
BurstMox wrote: |
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I think you must also try out the proper Cyclop version. |
What do u mean by proper version? Looks like ROMZ did several different versions...
I know this one is not derivated from Helios 40, but still funny to use . |
There is only one Helios 40-2 clone version. Maybe some differences in coating depending on date of manufacture... _________________ ---------------------------------
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Bwright
Joined: 04 Jan 2013 Posts: 2
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Posted: Fri Jan 04, 2013 2:36 am Post subject: |
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Bwright wrote:
Anyone here have samples of photos taken with the 85mm 1.2 version of this lens lens fully intact? Macro is fine. I am looking at getting one to adapt to Leica M mount, no mirror problem with the protrusion. Still not sure if it would cover full 35mm format but it would be nice to see what the IQ is like with all the glass intact. Thanks! |
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woodrim
Joined: 14 Jan 2010 Posts: 4060 Location: Charleston
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Posted: Sun Jan 27, 2013 9:57 pm Post subject: |
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woodrim wrote:
Long live The One-Eyed Monster thread. Was out yesterday in totally inappropriate light for this fast lens. My shutter was maxed out at 1/4000 and blinking warnings, but I used it anyway. The Cyclop really can be quite sharp when focused spot-on. I was at least close on most focus. I do miss the whacky bokeh I was getting before I fixed the crooked element. Has anyone shot birds in flight with the Cyclop? Challenging.
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Olivier
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Posted: Mon Jan 28, 2013 7:45 am Post subject: |
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Olivier wrote:
Very nice serie !
I especially like #2, 7 and 8.
#5 is amazing.
Congratulations, Woodrim. _________________ Olivier - Moderator
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Minolfan
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Posted: Mon Jan 28, 2013 8:29 am Post subject: |
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Minolfan wrote:
Olivier wrote: |
Very nice serie !
I especially like #2, 7 and 8. #5 is amazing. |
+1!! |
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BurstMox
Joined: 04 Dec 2011 Posts: 2018 Location: France
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Posted: Mon Mar 04, 2013 11:08 pm Post subject: |
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BurstMox wrote:
Yesterday I had some fun with my cyclop next to the sea...
Like woodrim, it was in the sunny day, so was hard to deal with the f/1.5
I guess the Woodrim's cyclop is the Helios 40 copy, cause mine (not H-40 copy) have a lot more of blur in the "corners", and it's very soft... But I like extreme .
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Those shot are not perfect at all, but I like the "savage" bokeh in the #1 _________________ Pierre
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Fabian
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Posted: Mon Mar 04, 2013 11:46 pm Post subject: |
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Fabian wrote:
I'd check for a reversed element, or at least if they aren't misaligned. |
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BurstMox
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Posted: Tue Mar 05, 2013 12:59 am Post subject: |
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BurstMox wrote:
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I'd check for a reversed element, or at least if they aren't misaligned. |
Thx for advice , but I like this lens . When I screw it on my Nex, that's the result I'm looking for.. when I want sharpness and good IQ, I use another lens then . _________________ Pierre
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woodrim
Joined: 14 Jan 2010 Posts: 4060 Location: Charleston
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Posted: Tue Mar 05, 2013 1:23 am Post subject: |
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woodrim wrote:
BurstMox: That's a very nice effect. The first can maybe use some contrast, unless that's the way you wanted it. The rear lens is prone to loosening on the Cyclop, but is very easy to fix. Mine had much more strange bokeh when the glass was loose. In some ways I liked it better. Shake yours and listen for glass rattle. _________________ Regards,
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Olivier
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Posted: Tue Mar 05, 2013 7:45 am Post subject: |
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Olivier wrote:
I had the same loosen glass issue.
I like your second shot very much.
I only regret the cut feet. _________________ Olivier - Moderator
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Pancolart
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Posted: Tue Mar 05, 2013 9:44 am Post subject: |
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Pancolart wrote:
woodrim wrote: |
BurstMox: That's a very nice effect. The first can maybe use some contrast, unless that's the way you wanted it. The rear lens is prone to loosening on the Cyclop, but is very easy to fix. Mine had much more strange bokeh when the glass was loose. In some ways I liked it better. Shake yours and listen for glass rattle. |
It's not Helios-40 Cyclop he is shooting with.
Nice pastel images nevertheless. _________________ ---------------------------------
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BurstMox
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Posted: Tue Mar 05, 2013 2:58 pm Post subject: |
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BurstMox wrote:
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I only regret the cut feet. |
I too :/ , but fact is that if I wanted the feets, the head would enter into the "blurry area" :/.
I'll check if I hear something when I shake it _________________ Pierre
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SonicScot
Joined: 01 Dec 2011 Posts: 2697 Location: Scottish Highlands
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Posted: Tue Mar 05, 2013 5:05 pm Post subject: |
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SonicScot wrote:
I really love the second image Pierre
Perhaps if you had been further away, a different crop may have perfected it. But still, I think it's one of the best images I've seen in a long time. _________________ Gary
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Olivier
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Posted: Tue Mar 05, 2013 6:24 pm Post subject: |
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Olivier wrote:
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I really love the second image Pierre
Perhaps if you had been further away, a different crop may have perfected it. But still, I think it's one of the best images I've seen in a long time. |
+1
Pierre, did you shoot it in France ? _________________ Olivier - Moderator
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BurstMox
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Posted: Tue Mar 05, 2013 10:31 pm Post subject: |
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BurstMox wrote:
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Pierre, did you shoot it in France ? |
No, it was in Yujniy (Южний), near Odessa, Ukraine .
I dunno yet exactly when I'll come back to France.
I've shaked the lens (I guess I looked smart at this moment), no sound inside.
Btw, thx everyone for comments _________________ Pierre
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woodrim
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Posted: Sun Mar 31, 2013 1:42 pm Post subject: |
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woodrim wrote:
I posted these in the Digital Forum, but will post here again to keep this thread going. As you all know, the Cyclop requires very precise focusing, but when done right, can be quite sharp. However, this was not my best day for focusing - blame my bad eyes.
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Posted: Sun Mar 31, 2013 5:48 pm Post subject: |
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stilian wrote:
The bokeh is quite busy ... _________________ Sony NEX 5N, Panasonic G3, Olympus PL1, Rollei SL35, Zeiss Icarex, Zenit E, Konica TC
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woodrim
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Posted: Sun Mar 31, 2013 6:01 pm Post subject: |
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woodrim wrote:
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The bokeh is quite busy ... |
Such is the nature of the beast. _________________ Regards,
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Nordentro
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Posted: Sun Mar 31, 2013 8:35 pm Post subject: |
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Nordentro wrote:
Quite nice IMO Woodrim, I now how hard it is to nail with the Cyclop _________________ Lars | Manuellfokus.no |
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Posted: Mon Apr 01, 2013 5:01 am Post subject: |
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nixland wrote:
BurstMox wrote: |
Yesterday I had some fun with my cyclop next to the sea...
Like woodrim, it was in the sunny day, so was hard to deal with the f/1.5
I guess the Woodrim's cyclop is the Helios 40 copy, cause mine (not H-40 copy) have a lot more of blur in the "corners", and it's very soft... But I like extreme .
#1
#2
Those shot are not perfect at all, but I like the "savage" bokeh in the #1 |
Woww ... what kind of Cyclops lens is that? .. or something wrong with the optic? But the dreamy bokeh is awesome I like it ... for certain purpose it might be great (video, dreamy concept, etc.) _________________ Carl Zeiss Jena: Biotar 58/2 1Q, DDR Pancolar 80/1.8 MC, Biotar 75/1.5, Biotar 10cm/2, DDR Sonnar 135/3.5 MC
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BurstMox
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Posted: Mon Apr 01, 2013 8:45 pm Post subject: |
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BurstMox wrote:
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Woww ... what kind of Cyclops lens is that? .. or something wrong with the optic? But the dreamy bokeh is awesome Smile I like it ... for certain purpose it might be great (video, dreamy concept, etc.) |
The classical non-helios type version with protuberant stuff on the back (since I use it only on Nex, I don't need to cut it) :
I used it 2 days ago, still give the same softness wih crazy bokeh... but I like it I prefer to keep it and buy an Helios 40(well, need to wait for some years to gather money ), than trying to "repair" this Cyclop, even if nothing looks to go wrong on the lens.
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woodrim
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Posted: Mon Apr 01, 2013 10:44 pm Post subject: |
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woodrim wrote:
Pierre: I notice on that last B&W shot that there are some areas that are fairly sharp, but notice they are in the darker areas. Try underexposing by 2/3 or even a full stop, then correct in post processing. My Cyclop works pretty well on my NEX, but with my SLR I needed to underexpose by a full stop for a good image. _________________ Regards,
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BurstMox
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Posted: Tue Apr 02, 2013 10:26 am Post subject: |
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BurstMox wrote:
Ok, I will try this next time I'll use it, thanks for the tip! _________________ Pierre
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MoonPix
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Posted: Sat Apr 06, 2013 5:14 pm Post subject: Comparing Canon 85 1.2 II and Cyclop 85 1.5 |
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MoonPix wrote:
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