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kl122002
Joined: 16 Nov 2009 Posts: 39
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Posted: Mon Jan 25, 2010 4:21 am Post subject: Culminar = tessar? |
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kl122002 wrote:
Just won a Steinheil Culminar 85mm f/2.8 and shipping on its way. But the tracking number failed to track the item.
Someone told me the Culminar is having an identical formula of tessar 85mm f/2.8, is that true?
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Attila
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Posted: Mon Jan 25, 2010 6:04 am Post subject: |
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Attila wrote:
No idea, but good lens that for sure. _________________ -------------------------------
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luisalegria
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Posted: Mon Jan 25, 2010 6:27 am Post subject: |
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luisalegria wrote:
Apparently Steinheil called several formulas "Culminars";
One type is a Tessar, another is a reversed Tessar, and there could easily be something else as well, who knows.
For what its worth, my 4.5/135 Steinheil Culminar is a Tessar. _________________ I like Pentax DSLR's, Exaktas, M42 bodies of all kinds, strange and cheap Japanese lenses, and am dabbling in medium format/Speed Graphic work. |
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kl122002
Joined: 16 Nov 2009 Posts: 39
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Posted: Mon Jan 25, 2010 2:31 pm Post subject: |
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kl122002 wrote:
So... who have the old steinheil catalog? It might help |
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no-X
Joined: 19 Jul 2008 Posts: 2495 Location: Budejky, Czech Republic
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Posted: Mon Jan 25, 2010 4:18 pm Post subject: |
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no-X wrote:
Kelly Flanigan wrote: |
Hi Raid; here the old dinky Steinheil Culminar 85mm/2.8 is used sometimes on Russian and Leica too. It is a tessar formula; 4 elements in 3 groups. |
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kl122002
Joined: 16 Nov 2009 Posts: 39
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Posted: Tue Jan 26, 2010 2:57 am Post subject: |
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kl122002 wrote:
I got a book and stated Culminar should be a modified tessar format.
A hisotry of Photographic Lens (Rudolf Kingslake) p. 89 stated : " A few designers have turned the lens around so that the cemented doublet comes in front and the separated elements behind." |
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dof
Joined: 04 Feb 2009 Posts: 339 Location: Southern California
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Posted: Tue Jan 26, 2010 3:13 am Post subject: |
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dof wrote:
From A Lens Collector's Vade Mecum:
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"Culminar VL f2.8/85mm No597,292; ... Triplar for Contax fit" |
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"Culminar f2.8 85mm This is fairly common in UK for M39x26 (Ste028).It was seen at Nr59729x and
noted at No960,78x. A note in Modern Photo 02/1968 p45 describes it as 'softish',... and 'a very second
grade... optic'. They note it would be useful for portraits and that the Steinheil Quin... series were
first grade." |
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no-X
Joined: 19 Jul 2008 Posts: 2495 Location: Budejky, Czech Republic
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Posted: Tue Jan 26, 2010 8:20 am Post subject: |
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no-X wrote:
kl122002 wrote: |
I got a book and stated Culminar should be a modified tessar format.
A hisotry of Photographic Lens (Rudolf Kingslake) p. 89 stated : " A few designers have turned the lens around so that the cemented doublet comes in front and the separated elements behind." |
That would be Petzvals Orthoscope
http://www.abload.de/img/lens_scheme_tri_v5ev1i.png _________________ (almost) complete list of Helios lenses |
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LucisPictor
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Posted: Tue Jan 26, 2010 9:51 am Post subject: |
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LucisPictor wrote:
The 85 Culminar is a nice lens but prone to flare. You should try to find a fitting hood (which is not easy). _________________ Personal forum activity on pause every now and again (due to job obligations)!
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Helios
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Posted: Tue Jan 26, 2010 10:42 am Post subject: |
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Helios wrote:
I agree with Lucispictor , this lens is prone to huge flare, and there is no filter thread on it . DIY sunshade is a good way here, and a cylindrical one of 50mm (2") would be perfect. |
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kansalliskala
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Posted: Tue Jan 26, 2010 12:05 pm Post subject: |
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no-X
Joined: 19 Jul 2008 Posts: 2495 Location: Budejky, Czech Republic
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Posted: Tue Jan 26, 2010 1:30 pm Post subject: |
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no-X wrote:
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