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Compact bellows? And precise bellows?
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 07, 2013 1:19 pm    Post subject: Compact bellows? And precise bellows? Reply with quote

Hi,
I have an M42 Revue bellows, I guess it's made by Novoflex. It works very nice with long focal lengths from 80mm onwards but below that it can only reach high magnifications. And for ultra high magnfications (anything above about 3:1) it's not precise enough.
So I want to buy some better bellows - one precise and steady for very high magnifications and one for low magnifications.

Does anyone here knows compact and affordable bellows?
And any recommendations for a very precise bellows?


PostPosted: Thu Mar 07, 2013 1:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

One trick I use to effectively “shorten” bellows is that I put an M39 adapter on the mirrorless camera, then an M39 to M42 step-up ring, and M42 bellows on that—it saves about 15mm compared to using an M42 adapter on the camera.

In any case I'm able to focus to infinity with a 75mm enlarger lens on the bellows.


PostPosted: Thu Mar 07, 2013 4:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Keep an eye on ebay, very nice bellows units turn up frequently, Nikon and Konica ones are particularly nice.


PostPosted: Thu Mar 07, 2013 6:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Unitor make excellent quality bellows, mine are Minolta MD but they come in most mounts and the mount is interchangeable.

http://e-group.uk.net/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=9921

The quality is first class, they are strong, rigid, and the movements are very smooth and precise. The full kit has a slide copier and a focusing rail.
I was lucky ang got a full set in immaculate condition for £20 at a camera fair. I generally see them there at around £40 to £50.


PostPosted: Thu Mar 07, 2013 8:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Most any good quality set of bellows should serve both your purposes. Any good bellows built by Nikon, Canon, Pentax, Olympus, or Minolta should work well. I've also owned a set of Vivitar bellow that were well made and I currently own a set of Spiratone bellows -- the Bellows Master SST by Hama, which are excellent. I also own a set of Nikon PB-4 bellows, which are very sturdy, and I wouldn't hesitate to use them for both high and low magnification work. Fully retracted, they measure about 43mm from flange to flange, and fully extended they're about 200mm.

An important thing to consider with bellows is an element of their design. Some bellows have only a front and rear standard and in some cases, only the front standard is movable. Others allow both to be moved. But the best bellows designs, such as my PB-4, have a separate tripod mount on its own track, which can be moved independently from the bellows standards. This gives you the best flexibility when you're out there in the field.


PostPosted: Thu Mar 07, 2013 10:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have to ad Contax PC bellows on Michael's list.
A masterpiece. I have 2 of them Shocked


PostPosted: Thu Mar 07, 2013 11:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

No argument from me. And there are also Leitz bellows. And then you've got the various excellent medium format bellows to choose from, such as those made by Hasselblad and Bronica, to name just two.


PostPosted: Fri Mar 08, 2013 1:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Get a Minolta's portable bellows like this:



I got this from eBay around $65.

It is very easy to change its mount of your camera, I have changed to E-mount as you see.
Very light, relatively sturdy, only problem would be you may need macro photo rail to focus,
since focusing is done by extending/compacting the bellows which is not accurate for macro.

It is very compact and easy to carry. Above 75mm lens, you can focus to infinity with NEX.

And also you can have fun with the other lens like Contax G-Planr 45mm head (M42-mount) with:



Last edited by koji on Fri Mar 08, 2013 11:49 am; edited 3 times in total


PostPosted: Fri Mar 08, 2013 1:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

koji wrote:
Get a Minolta's portable bellows like this:



I got this from eBay around $65.

It is very easy to change its mount to your camera, I have change to E-mount as you see.
Very light, relatively sturdy, only problem would be you may need macro photo rail to focus,
since focusing is done by extending/compacting the bellows which is not accurate for macro.

....

Cool Smile


PostPosted: Fri Mar 08, 2013 5:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Those compact Minolta bellows are simply too cool. They look especially cool attached to the NEX with that Planar hanging off the front. Cool Not terribly practical methinks, but I don't care. I want a set. Only problem might be that the $65 you paid for yours was a really good deal?

Click here to see on Ebay


PostPosted: Fri Mar 08, 2013 2:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

koji wrote:
Get a Minolta's portable bellows ...

A very nice solution.
On adapting it on NEX or other mounts there are 2 nice tricks you should consider, as you can see in the photo.

One is to fix the new mount rotated 180 degrees and rotate the MD mother mount from the front of the bellows as well. This way you have the bellows's fixing knob on your left hand while holding the camera with the right hand. Very useful.
The other is to have a focusing helicoid mounted behind the lens when using it with old projection/enlarger/barrel lenses. This way you also have fine focus adjustment.
I got mine from ebay as well, in a "like new" condition, but I paid around 100 Euros...


PostPosted: Fri Mar 08, 2013 4:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Those are very useful, even outside. Never made one mine strangely enough...