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BenediktW
Joined: 24 Jan 2008 Posts: 336 Location: Solingen, Germany
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Posted: Mon Feb 15, 2010 11:14 am Post subject: Chipping manual Nikkors / extension tubes / adapters |
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BenediktW wrote:
Hi there!
Does anyone of you have experience with modifying Nikkor lenses with CPU chips?
I am planning to build such a CPU into my M645 => Nikon F-adapter in order to have exposure metering on my D50 with all M645 lenses I attach.
But I don´t have any experience with projects like this. Does anyone have some good tips?
Thanks in advance
Benedikt _________________ http://www.1979fotographie.de/
Nikon D90, Sony NEX-3
AF-Nikkors 24mm F2,8, 35mm F1,8 DX, 85mm F1,8, 28-105mm F3,5-4,5D IF
Nikon MF: Nikkor 20mm F4, Nikkor 50mm F2 Ai, Micro-Nikkor-P 55mm F3,5, Nikkor 135mm F2,8 Ai, Nikkor 200mm F4
Carl Zeiss Sonnar 135mm F2,8 [for sale], Vario-Sonnar 80-200mm F4 T* (C/Y) with Leitax for Nikon-F
Minolta MD-Rokkors: 28mm F2,8, 45mm F2
M42 Lenses: Mamiya/Sekor SX 21mm F4, SX 28mm F2,8, SX 55mm F1,8, SX 135mm F2,8, 400mm F6,3 [for sale], Asahi-Pentax Super-Tak. 28mm F3,5 and 55mm F1,8, CZJ Tessar 50mm F2,8, Vivitar 135mm F2,8
Mamiya 645 Lenses: Mamiya Sekor C 80mm F2,8 N, 300mm F5,6, 105-210mm F4,5 ULD [for sale] |
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hmallat
Joined: 11 Jul 2009 Posts: 23
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Posted: Mon Feb 15, 2010 7:04 pm Post subject: Re: Chipping manual Nikkors / extension tubes / adapters |
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hmallat wrote:
BenediktW wrote: |
Does anyone of you have experience with modifying Nikkor lenses with CPU chips? |
A little. I've chipped an extension tube and a few lenses.
If you're modifying a plain F bayonet, you need to drill holes to and cut away bits of metal, so you'll need some tools for that, e.g. a Dremel. But finding tools should not be a problem.
Finding a chip, on the other hand, might be. One way to go about it is to look for cheap or wrecked lenses and extract the CPUs, as well as the contact blocks and the screws that hold the blocks in place, from those.
Note that if you find a chip for an AF lens (instead of an AI-P lens) your camera needs to be switched to manual focus, or it will futilely try to focus the lens.
Chips for zooms have a long strip of contacts attached. Against this strip moves a metal brush when the lens is zoomed; based on the position of the brush against the strip, some contacts are shorted and this is how the CPU will know the (approximate) focal length. You can experiment shorting the contacts in different positions in order to arrive to a specific fixed value.
Chips for D type lenses have another such a strip for focusing distance. I'm not familiar with what calculations happen with the exposure concerning the focusing distance, but you might want to try out e.g. infinity and see what happens.
These strips may be problematic when fitting the CPU inside the adapter, as they take up space.
Bjørn Rørslett has sometimes sold chips which have been programmed for specific lenses. In that case you don't need to fiddle with strips and the focal length/aperture values will be exactly correct. However, I don't know whether he does that anymore. Also, he doesn't supply the contact blocks or the screws, so you need to source those from somewhere else. (either wrecked lenses, again, or a repair shop that sells Nikon spare parts) |
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BenediktW
Joined: 24 Jan 2008 Posts: 336 Location: Solingen, Germany
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Posted: Mon Feb 15, 2010 7:34 pm Post subject: |
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BenediktW wrote:
Thanks
I´m trying to get a 18-55 AF-S, there are lots of these with broken ultrasonic drive, and they are an awful piece of rubbish anyway
But perhaps there´s also a broken 35-70 somewhere, the other ones are sold too expensive.
So I´d have to short the zoom contact, this is a useful piece of information!
A chip from a prime lens would be more convenient so, but they are more expensive and difficult to find in defective state. _________________ http://www.1979fotographie.de/
Nikon D90, Sony NEX-3
AF-Nikkors 24mm F2,8, 35mm F1,8 DX, 85mm F1,8, 28-105mm F3,5-4,5D IF
Nikon MF: Nikkor 20mm F4, Nikkor 50mm F2 Ai, Micro-Nikkor-P 55mm F3,5, Nikkor 135mm F2,8 Ai, Nikkor 200mm F4
Carl Zeiss Sonnar 135mm F2,8 [for sale], Vario-Sonnar 80-200mm F4 T* (C/Y) with Leitax for Nikon-F
Minolta MD-Rokkors: 28mm F2,8, 45mm F2
M42 Lenses: Mamiya/Sekor SX 21mm F4, SX 28mm F2,8, SX 55mm F1,8, SX 135mm F2,8, 400mm F6,3 [for sale], Asahi-Pentax Super-Tak. 28mm F3,5 and 55mm F1,8, CZJ Tessar 50mm F2,8, Vivitar 135mm F2,8
Mamiya 645 Lenses: Mamiya Sekor C 80mm F2,8 N, 300mm F5,6, 105-210mm F4,5 ULD [for sale] |
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kds315*
Joined: 12 Mar 2008 Posts: 16658 Location: Weinheim, Germany
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Posted: Mon Feb 15, 2010 8:07 pm Post subject: |
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kds315* wrote:
Bjoern Roerslet sells these chips programmed for a specific lens.
Contact him through www.nikongear.com he is "nfoto" there _________________ Klaus - Admin
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BenediktW
Joined: 24 Jan 2008 Posts: 336 Location: Solingen, Germany
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Posted: Mon Feb 15, 2010 9:50 pm Post subject: |
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BenediktW wrote:
Thanks! I talked to him, but I don´t need it for a specific lens, as I will eqip an adapter with it. His price is fair for what it does, but I don´t need this pricy solution. So I´ll go for the cheap DIY solution _________________ http://www.1979fotographie.de/
Nikon D90, Sony NEX-3
AF-Nikkors 24mm F2,8, 35mm F1,8 DX, 85mm F1,8, 28-105mm F3,5-4,5D IF
Nikon MF: Nikkor 20mm F4, Nikkor 50mm F2 Ai, Micro-Nikkor-P 55mm F3,5, Nikkor 135mm F2,8 Ai, Nikkor 200mm F4
Carl Zeiss Sonnar 135mm F2,8 [for sale], Vario-Sonnar 80-200mm F4 T* (C/Y) with Leitax for Nikon-F
Minolta MD-Rokkors: 28mm F2,8, 45mm F2
M42 Lenses: Mamiya/Sekor SX 21mm F4, SX 28mm F2,8, SX 55mm F1,8, SX 135mm F2,8, 400mm F6,3 [for sale], Asahi-Pentax Super-Tak. 28mm F3,5 and 55mm F1,8, CZJ Tessar 50mm F2,8, Vivitar 135mm F2,8
Mamiya 645 Lenses: Mamiya Sekor C 80mm F2,8 N, 300mm F5,6, 105-210mm F4,5 ULD [for sale] |
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hmallat
Joined: 11 Jul 2009 Posts: 23
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Posted: Tue Feb 16, 2010 8:10 pm Post subject: |
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hmallat wrote:
BenediktW wrote: |
So I´d have to short the zoom contact, this is a useful piece of information!
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If you want the CPU to report some particular value, yes. If you don't care, then you can just insulate the contact strip and stuff it somewhere inside the adapter -- it will still report something, but if you use only e.g. a 50mm lens with the adapter it might be advantageous to find the 50mm position of the strip.
A few years ago, when I had a Nikon D100, I chipped a Soligor tube and wrote a small page of the operation, see http://hannu.mallat.fi/accordion/accordion.html. The D100 didn't meter at all without a CPU, but I've since upgraded to D700 which does. Still I've added CPUs to manual lenses so I don't have to fiddle with the camera settings when changing lenses. |
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Screamin Scott
Joined: 13 Oct 2007 Posts: 1014 Location: Dallas, Georgia USA
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Posted: Wed Feb 17, 2010 12:27 am Post subject: |
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Screamin Scott wrote:
For all the time & expense involved, I would just upgrade your camera to a D200 or better so that the camera can meter with the old lenses... _________________ Cameras-Nikon D300, D7100,D610,FE2,FTN ,FT2,N90s, Olympus Pen EP-3 & Olympus OM-D E-M10
Nikkor AF Zooms=28-105/3.5D,28-70/3.5D,35-135/3.5, et al
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ChrisLilley
Joined: 01 Jan 2008 Posts: 1767 Location: Nice, France
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Posted: Wed Feb 17, 2010 9:25 pm Post subject: |
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ChrisLilley wrote:
BenediktW wrote: |
Thanks
So I´d have to short the zoom contact, this is a useful piece of information!
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If you don't short the strips, they will report whatever value corresponds to all zeroes.
if you do, its worth knowing that these strips use Gray code
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gray_code _________________ Camera (ˈkæ mə rə), n. Device for taking pictures in bright light
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