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Lloydy
Joined: 02 Sep 2009 Posts: 7795 Location: Ironbridge. UK.
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Posted: Wed May 25, 2011 10:33 pm Post subject: |
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Lloydy wrote:
iangreenhalgh1 wrote: |
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Originally Carena was a manufacturer of movie equipment based in Lichtenstein, then someone acquired the name and used it as a distributor's label, applied it to a variety of photographic equipment from various OEMs, much like Hanimex. |
Ah, didn't know they were from Lichtenstein but I did know there was an old Carena company and a distributor later used the name. Thanks for the info.
I just finished machining my Mirage copy of this lens so I can fit an enlarger lens in the front to utilise the helicoid so my broken lens turned out to be useful in the end... |
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iangreenhalgh1
Joined: 18 Mar 2011 Posts: 15679
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Posted: Wed May 25, 2011 11:14 pm Post subject: |
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iangreenhalgh1 wrote:
Lloydy wrote: |
iangreenhalgh1 wrote: |
Seele wrote: |
Originally Carena was a manufacturer of movie equipment based in Lichtenstein, then someone acquired the name and used it as a distributor's label, applied it to a variety of photographic equipment from various OEMs, much like Hanimex. |
Ah, didn't know they were from Lichtenstein but I did know there was an old Carena company and a distributor later used the name. Thanks for the info.
I just finished machining my Mirage copy of this lens so I can fit an enlarger lens in the front to utilise the helicoid so my broken lens turned out to be useful in the end... |
Tell us more....... |
I'm going to do thread about it shortly... _________________ I don't care who designed it, who made it or what country it comes from - I just enjoy using it! |
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newton
Joined: 10 Mar 2011 Posts: 343 Location: USA
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Posted: Thu May 26, 2011 6:03 am Post subject: |
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newton wrote:
Hey, what about my pics? I don't just post for nothing, you know. . Any CA? |
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eddieitman
Joined: 12 Apr 2011 Posts: 1246 Location: United Kingdom
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Posted: Thu May 26, 2011 6:15 am Post subject: |
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eddieitman wrote:
Newton, your pics also look incredibly sharp i cant understand why one is so dark though if they where both shot the same.
As for CA i cant see any but i am viewing on the ipad.
As i say seems the korean lens is very capable. I hope to get some better shots this next week _________________ My web site www.digital-darkroom.weebly.com
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Pancolart
Joined: 04 Feb 2008 Posts: 3705 Location: Slovenia, EU
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Posted: Thu May 26, 2011 8:37 am Post subject: |
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Pancolart wrote:
Newton your photos really don't say much: First much too dark, second a bit shaky and too bright with no contrast. In such conditions CA is the last thing to worry about.
I have Carena Zoomex 8mm cam that was made in Europe. Now that is like Swiss made watch quality. It was also equiped with Angénieux lenses. _________________ ---------------------------------
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newton
Joined: 10 Mar 2011 Posts: 343 Location: USA
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Posted: Fri May 27, 2011 12:53 am Post subject: |
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newton wrote:
I am glad you could tell that I was a little shaky in the last shot. I do not know why the two different lenses shot differently, one at a faster speed and the other at a slower speed in Av. I shot both shot wide-open to allow for an equal comparison but do not know why one shot at a faster speed and the other did not. I do agree that the first one is incredibly sharp though with little CA. The last pic has CA if you magnify it fully; it is slightly mixed with motion blur and is too bright, but it is wide-open: it was an extremely sunny bright day. I just tried to replicate the same settings to see the difference. How would you have taken that shot? Why did Carenar re-brand itself so much? It seems like a great quality lens. I noticed this when I first shot with it but seeing few little posts on it here on this forum, I assumed that it was not very good but in the back of my mind kept it that it shot pretty decent, which it appears may be the consensus. |
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ManualFocus-G
Joined: 29 Dec 2008 Posts: 6622 Location: United Kingdom
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Posted: Fri May 27, 2011 12:25 pm Post subject: |
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ManualFocus-G wrote:
I didn't like my Carenar much at all, to be honest. One of the worst 135mm lenses I've used in terms of CA and resolution. _________________ Graham - Moderator
Shooter of choice: Fujifilm X-T20 with M42, PB and C/Y lenses
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eddieitman
Joined: 12 Apr 2011 Posts: 1246 Location: United Kingdom
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Posted: Fri May 27, 2011 1:11 pm Post subject: |
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eddieitman wrote:
ManualFocus-G I would say that the one you had was a completley different lens, It looks rather different from the pictures diplayed, as mine does not have the M/A option, I had to modify mine to press the pin in.
It seems to have some kind of retractable hood?
And i think Sankor are japanese no? _________________ My web site www.digital-darkroom.weebly.com
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Pancolart
Joined: 04 Feb 2008 Posts: 3705 Location: Slovenia, EU
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Posted: Thu Jun 09, 2011 12:42 pm Post subject: |
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Pancolart wrote:
I said it many time i don't like this lens. Mostly due to design of exterior and grease always leaking inside aperture and glass system. I admit if clean it can give good quality photos.
But besides criticism let me add two good things about this Korean lens (sold also as Varexon, Exaktar...).
1. You can easily break infinity barrier just by removing rubber grip (which looks darn ugly anyway / you can put it back later though i suggest nice leather one) and removing the only normal size screw (see first photo). This way you can shorten the flange (around 3-4mm) thus making lens cool for Nikon users: http://forum.mflenses.com/mf-lenses-with-easily-adjustable-infinity-for-nikon-ians-t26929.html
Lens stops turning automatically. But you'll have to be careful when going for close objects. You are in danger around 1m where aperture pin and focusing holders will depart (can be easily fixed). Here are two photos FIRST showing "past-infinity" and SECOND showing "macro" mode limits. Be careful with second.
2. This lens nearly always comes with grease-stuck aperture. But this is also easily solvable if you don't need auto function which you don't if using lens on DSLR.
If you need procedure let me know ill write it down. _________________ ---------------------------------
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iangreenhalgh1
Joined: 18 Mar 2011 Posts: 15679
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Posted: Thu Jun 09, 2011 12:47 pm Post subject: |
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iangreenhalgh1 wrote:
I just bought a new copy of this lens, looks unused, optics are perfect as is the aperture, no oil or grease on the blades.
This copy is branded Exaktar, I only paid 3ukp inc shipping so I figured it was worth having in the collection at that price in mint condition. _________________ I don't care who designed it, who made it or what country it comes from - I just enjoy using it! |
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Jesito
Joined: 24 Aug 2007 Posts: 5745 Location: Olivella, Catalonia, (Spain)
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Posted: Sat Jul 06, 2013 6:21 am Post subject: |
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Jesito wrote:
I've been enjoying this old thread when looking for info about my new Carenar 135mm f/2.8.
It looks like a decent lens, quite sharp and giving clean colours with little CA.
A little different from the others seen here, the aperture ring being silver, but the barrel has the same shape and the two silver rings on the extremes, so I think it's the same lens.
This is the lens:
And these some samples wide open from the NEX-C3, straight from the camera, no pp, only reduced to upload to the forum:
_________________ Jesito, Moderator
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eddieitman
Joined: 12 Apr 2011 Posts: 1246 Location: United Kingdom
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Posted: Wed Jul 17, 2013 6:45 am Post subject: |
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eddieitman wrote:
Jesito excellent samples and shows that this is a rather better lens than it is credited with, i have shot several nice portraits with the lens, i should use more often _________________ My web site www.digital-darkroom.weebly.com
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Pontus
Joined: 18 Dec 2011 Posts: 1471 Location: Jakobstad, Finland
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Posted: Wed Jul 17, 2013 8:22 am Post subject: |
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Pontus wrote:
I have a Petri 135/2.8 that looks like this, I don't think it is the same lens as the carenar:
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iangreenhalgh1
Joined: 18 Mar 2011 Posts: 15679
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Posted: Wed Jul 17, 2013 10:03 am Post subject: |
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iangreenhalgh1 wrote:
If the lens says made in Korea, it will be the Samyang, which is a good lens. If it says made in Japan, who knows, could be from almost anywhere.
By the time that lens was made, the Petri brand had become bargain basement low quality. I have seen a very similar lens with the large protruding screws in the aperture ring. I think it's fairly likely it's a Cosina as Cosina bought the rights to the Petri brand name after Petri went bust in 1978. I think your lens is a little older than that as it's M42 so would have been made for one of the late M42 Petris before bankruptcy.
There's a lot of these mid-70s 'Petris' floating around, I owned a few, thought they were among the worst lenses I ever owned, which is a crying shame because the lenses Petri were selling in their heyday were excellent. _________________ I don't care who designed it, who made it or what country it comes from - I just enjoy using it! |
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Pancolart
Joined: 04 Feb 2008 Posts: 3705 Location: Slovenia, EU
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Posted: Wed Jul 17, 2013 7:37 pm Post subject: |
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Pancolart wrote:
Here is my Barebone edition (all functions intact):
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Eugen Mezei
Joined: 17 May 2008 Posts: 266
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Posted: Mon Jun 06, 2016 4:38 am Post subject: |
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Eugen Mezei wrote:
It was Foto Quelle who used the Carena (for cameras) and Carenar (for lenses) names. I always wondered why they choose to do this besides their Revueflex/Revuenon line. |
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