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CANON FDn 80-200/4 L
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 08, 2025 12:13 am    Post subject: CANON FDn 80-200/4 L Reply with quote

I bought this lens because it´s cheaper than any of the EF zooms.

Used it with a Sony a1 camera. and the IQ seems to be very different than Sony zoom (24-70/2,8 GM II)

What can I wait for the IQ of the Canon lens.

which aperture is the sweet point of that lens?

I know there are many Canon connoisseurs here


PostPosted: Sat Feb 08, 2025 3:20 pm    Post subject: Re: CANON FDn 80-200/4 L Reply with quote

It's a very well-regarded lens, but bear in mind that the Canon was released four decades before the Sony, and does not have a lot of the advantages in coatings, ED/ASPH elements, or in-body profile corrections that the Sony does. It also doesn't communicate focal length values to the body for optimized stabilization. As a result, it will take much more refined technique to use the Canon and get pictures approaching those from the Sony lens.

I've not personally used the Canon, but I'm sure others can help you out with recommended technique.

papasito wrote:
I bought this lens because it´s cheaper than any of the EF zooms.

Used it with a Sony a1 camera. and the IQ seems to be very different than Sony zoom (24-70/2,8 GM II)

What can I wait for the IQ of the Canon lens.

which aperture is the sweet point of that lens?

I know there are many Canon connoisseurs here


PostPosted: Sat Feb 08, 2025 3:31 pm    Post subject: Re: CANON FDn 80-200/4 L Reply with quote

BrianSVP wrote:
It's a very well-regarded lens, but bear in mind that the Canon was released four decades before the Sony, and does not have a lot of the advantages in coatings, ED/ASPH elements, or in-body profile corrections that the Sony does. It also doesn't communicate focal length values to the body for optimized stabilization. As a result, it will take much more refined technique to use the Canon and get pictures approaching those from the Sony lens.

I've not personally used the Canon, but I'm sure others can help you out with recommended technique.

papasito wrote:
I bought this lens because it´s cheaper than any of the EF zooms.

Used it with a Sony a1 camera. and the IQ seems to be very different than Sony zoom (24-70/2,8 GM II)

What can I wait for the IQ of the Canon lens.

which aperture is the sweet point of that lens?

I know there are many Canon connoisseurs here


Thank you, for your comment and your time.


PostPosted: Sun Feb 09, 2025 12:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Best performance in the 100-120mm range, at f8 ... no CAs, no distortion, very clear and clean images. Better than all other vintage primes I own ...

My sample has pretty weak corners at f4 and f5.6 and needs to be stopped down to f8 or f11 for best performance at the long end; the Zeiss CY Vario-Sonnar has much sharper at f4, but also much more lateral CAs ...

For perfect wide open performance you'll need a modern zoom ...

S


PostPosted: Sun Feb 09, 2025 12:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

stevemark wrote:
Best performance in the 100-120mm range, at f8 ... no CAs, no distortion, very clear and clean images. Better than all other vintage primes I own ...

My sample has pretty weak corners at f4 and f5.6 and needs to be stopped down to f8 or f11 for best performance at the long end; the Zeiss CY Vario-Sonnar has much sharper at f4, but also much more lateral CAs ...

For perfect wide open performance you'll need a modern zoom ...

S


Thank you. I think use it from 150 mm to 200 mm, and perhaps at F/8 to 11.

I used my Minolta 200/4 MD II ( first version from 1978/79), and it is OK but some CA lateral.

Anyway the use of the tele lens is widely spaced


PostPosted: Sun Feb 09, 2025 7:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

stevemark wrote:


For perfect wide open performance you'll need a modern zoom ...

S


https://forum.mflenses.com/canon-eos-1ds-mark-ii-and-canon-70-200mm-f4l-is-usm-t85325.html


PostPosted: Fri Feb 14, 2025 2:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Optically, the Canon L is still very high up there (of course, IS, AF, ... is something else).
I tested a pristine 80-200L against TWO copies of the nFD 70-210/4, one battered, one pristine. No clear unequivocal winner!
I also tested the L against the EF70-200/4L pre-IS, which is marginally better in the long end, but not overall better.
dpreview, IIRC, had a direct comparison in a forum, of your FD L vs a Sony FE, IIRC the 70-200/4, and the Sony was weaker!
Ditto a comparison with the mentioned Zeiss alternative, IIRC on DP as well, and they were more or less identical in sharpness, but the Zeiss had more CA.