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cristian1971
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Posted: Mon May 10, 2010 10:51 am Post subject: Biotessar 13.5cm 2.8 T M42!!! Rare?? info?? |
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cristian1971 wrote:
Hi, I found this lens in the flea market and I can`t find any info about it
can you help me?? is in m42 mount and dont have focus ring, maybe for macro shot, it`s came with Macro Extension Bellows .
Thanks
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no-X
Joined: 19 Jul 2008 Posts: 2495 Location: Budejky, Czech Republic
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Posted: Mon May 10, 2010 10:54 am Post subject: |
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no-X wrote:
Could you please post some pictures of the lens and some pictures taken by the lens? _________________ (almost) complete list of Helios lenses |
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cristian1971
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Posted: Mon May 10, 2010 11:15 am Post subject: |
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cristian1971 wrote:
How can i post pictures here??[/img] |
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no-X
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Posted: Mon May 10, 2010 11:28 am Post subject: |
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no-X wrote:
you can use [upload picture] button, which you see when you are writting a message (upon the message window on the right) _________________ (almost) complete list of Helios lenses |
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Seele
Joined: 17 Apr 2009 Posts: 742 Location: Sydney Australia
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Posted: Mon May 10, 2010 5:35 pm Post subject: |
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Seele wrote:
It should be a modified old LF lens. |
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Esox lucius
Joined: 26 Aug 2008 Posts: 2441 Location: Helsinki, Finland
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Posted: Mon May 10, 2010 6:05 pm Post subject: Re: Biotessar 13.5cm 2.8 T M42!!! Rare?? info?? |
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Esox lucius wrote:
cristian1971 wrote: |
Hi, I found this lens in the flea market and I can`t find any info about it
can you help me?? is in m42 mount and dont have focus ring, maybe for macro shot, it`s came with Macro Extension Bellows .
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cristian1971 wrote: |
How can i post pictures here??[/img] |
Newly registered members cannot post links or images in the first post. Now you can. |
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cristian1971
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Posted: Mon May 10, 2010 7:02 pm Post subject: pictures |
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cristian1971
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Posted: Mon May 10, 2010 7:07 pm Post subject: |
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Attila
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Posted: Mon May 10, 2010 8:13 pm Post subject: |
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Attila wrote:
Must be rare first one what I seen look macrolenses.de perhaps exist in Klaus's db. _________________ -------------------------------
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ManualFocus-G
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Posted: Mon May 10, 2010 8:21 pm Post subject: |
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ManualFocus-G wrote:
Some sort of medical lens perhaps? Interesting! _________________ Graham - Moderator
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F16SUNSHINE
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Posted: Mon May 10, 2010 9:03 pm Post subject: |
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F16SUNSHINE wrote:
If you don't want it I'll buy it from you.
It's a LF lens and bit uncommon.
Here is a very recent thread with a couple samples.
http://forum.mflenses.com/meridian-field-camera-zeiss-biotessar-kodak-polycontrast-t28106.html
cheers
Andy
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cristian1971
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Posted: Mon May 10, 2010 10:36 pm Post subject: offers?? |
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cristian1971 wrote:
any offers? |
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luisalegria
Joined: 07 Mar 2008 Posts: 6602 Location: San Francisco, USA
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Posted: Mon May 10, 2010 11:25 pm Post subject: |
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luisalegria wrote:
Post-war coated version. Probably few made.
These were specialized "portrait" lenses, usually mounted like yours in barrel for large format reflex cameras, but some were mounted in shutter.
These were long-focus lenses with limited coverage, so yours was probably intended to cover 6x9cm, the equivalent of an 80mm in 35mm format. _________________ I like Pentax DSLR's, Exaktas, M42 bodies of all kinds, strange and cheap Japanese lenses, and am dabbling in medium format/Speed Graphic work. |
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F16SUNSHINE
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Posted: Mon May 10, 2010 11:40 pm Post subject: |
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F16SUNSHINE wrote:
I found this:
originally posted by Marc Small at LUG
I dug through some of my archives last night to find out more about the lens
-- and here's the straight skinny:
The Biotessar formula is a six-element, three-group, design derived
from the basic Tessar formula: it has a doublet in front where the Tessar
has a singlet, and a triplet in the rear where the Tessar has a doublet.
The formula dates from the early 1920's and I could not find the name of the
designer. Surprisingly, Kingslake makes no reference to this design.
The standard Carl Zeiss Jena inter-War publication on their lenses,
_Zeiss Objectives: The Eagle Eye of Your Camera_, states that
[T]he Biotessar F/2.8 was constructed in response to
the repeated demands for a hand camera lens of very
great rapidity but of more universal application than
the f/2.7 Tessar. Compared with the latter the F/2.8
Biotessar marks a considerable advance in the field of
very rapid yet universal objectives, for even at full
aperture it gives excellent definition over the whole
field, whilst when stopped down to F/3.5 and F/4.5
respectively, it is not inferior to the Tessars of
these maximum apertures. The angle of firled for
which the F/2.8 Biotessar is recommended measures
fully 40 degrees.
The Biotessar was available in either 13.5cm or 16.5cm focal lengths
and could be had mounted in a Compur or Compound shutter, in the focusing A
mount, the standard N mount, or the recessed B mount. The diameter of the
outer lens ring was either 69mm or 70mm for the 16.5cm lens. The 1938 and
1939 Carl Zeiss Jena American price lists no longer list either focal length
with an inbuilt shutter, but do list them with the other three mounts. The
price of the 2.8/16.5 lens with the standard N mount was $154.00 in both
years. By way of comparison, the 3.5/16.5 Tessar cost $100.00 and the
4.5/16.5 Tessar $49.00. (This would be roughly 32 pounds sterling for the
Biotessar against 20 pounds for the f/3.5 Tessar and 10 pounds for the f/4.5
Tessar.) I do not have any Leica prices from this era at hand, but I
suspect other Stalwart and Intrepid LUG-Nuts will be able to provide
comparison data for Leitz for this period.
The lens in question is undoubtedly a large-format camera lens which
dates from either 1929 or 1930. It is probably in a standard N mounting.
The adaptor for bellows usage is an after-market conversion of some sort:
this kind of skilled machining was not uncommon in the inter-War era when
craftsmanship was the rule and thus could be had at a relatively low cost.
This is a fine lens of sound optical performance. Its manufacture
preceded the development (by Zeiss, of course!) of lens coating in 1936, so
this will produce a softer optical effect. It is both a curio of great
interest and a solid lens still capable of great usefulness some six decades
after its manufacture. _________________ Moderator |
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cristian1971
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Posted: Mon May 10, 2010 11:43 pm Post subject: |
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cristian1971 wrote:
Ohh thanks, |
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luisalegria
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Posted: Tue May 11, 2010 12:43 am Post subject: |
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luisalegria wrote:
This one though has the Zeiss red "T", so I would think its post-WWII ? _________________ I like Pentax DSLR's, Exaktas, M42 bodies of all kinds, strange and cheap Japanese lenses, and am dabbling in medium format/Speed Graphic work. |
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exaklaus
Joined: 11 Aug 2009 Posts: 1633 Location: Niederrhein, Germany
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Posted: Tue May 11, 2010 6:33 am Post subject: |
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exaklaus wrote:
!930 made. Overall less than 400 were made of the 2,8/13,5cm. A rare beast that probably can bring some money if you don't want to use it yourself!!!
Klaus _________________ my Ebay auctions
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exaklaus
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Posted: Tue May 11, 2010 6:37 am Post subject: |
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exaklaus wrote:
luisalegria wrote: |
This one though has the Zeiss red "T", so I would think its post-WWII ? |
It was possible to get a coating of an older lenses, later.
And when the 1,5/7,5cm for Exakta came, Zeiss offered for a while both versions, coated and uncoated (with a different price tag).
Klaus _________________ my Ebay auctions
Canon 5D II,
Fuji GW690III, Fuji G617, Fujifilm X-E1
Bessaflex TM
Tachihara 4"x5"
Summilux-R 1:1,4/50
Canon FD 85mm 1:1,2
Color-Heliar 75mm F2.5 SL
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cristian1971
Joined: 10 May 2010 Posts: 11
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Posted: Tue May 11, 2010 7:22 am Post subject: biotessar |
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cristian1971 wrote:
Hi,
where do you found this information??
"930 made. Overall less than 400 were made of the 2,8/13,5cm. A rare beast that probably can bring some money if you don't want to use it yourself"
thanks
Crist |
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exaklaus
Joined: 11 Aug 2009 Posts: 1633 Location: Niederrhein, Germany
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Posted: Tue May 11, 2010 7:29 am Post subject: |
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exaklaus wrote:
Thiele's Fabrikationsbuch Carl Zeiss Jena
Klaus _________________ my Ebay auctions
Canon 5D II,
Fuji GW690III, Fuji G617, Fujifilm X-E1
Bessaflex TM
Tachihara 4"x5"
Summilux-R 1:1,4/50
Canon FD 85mm 1:1,2
Color-Heliar 75mm F2.5 SL
www.autoselbstfotografie.de
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kds315*
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Posted: Tue May 11, 2010 7:35 am Post subject: |
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kds315* wrote:
http://www.lindemanns.de/shop/fotobuchhandlung/64015t-thiele-hartmut-fabrikationsbuch-photooptik-ii.php?sid=4be9086ff0bb5&iproj=limainst&direkt=10&ruck=/shop/fotobuchhandlung/uusuch4be9086ff0bb5.php&anker=ank11
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NYE OPTICAL Lyman-Alpha II f1.1/90mm
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exaklaus
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Posted: Tue May 11, 2010 7:39 am Post subject: |
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exaklaus wrote:
Wow, you have the current version of the book. Only have the early one.
Klaus _________________ my Ebay auctions
Canon 5D II,
Fuji GW690III, Fuji G617, Fujifilm X-E1
Bessaflex TM
Tachihara 4"x5"
Summilux-R 1:1,4/50
Canon FD 85mm 1:1,2
Color-Heliar 75mm F2.5 SL
www.autoselbstfotografie.de
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cristian1971
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Posted: Tue May 11, 2010 7:39 am Post subject: |
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cristian1971 wrote:
Thank you so much for all your help |
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cristian1971
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Posted: Tue May 11, 2010 7:44 am Post subject: |
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cristian1971 wrote:
any offers? can i send the lens to worldwide by dhl or fedex with tracking, no p.o. box
I have 100% positive feedback on ebay user Cristian_villela |
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cristian1971
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Posted: Wed May 12, 2010 1:36 am Post subject: |
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cristian1971 wrote:
I sell this lens on ebay , thanks |
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