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Fandyus
Joined: 12 Apr 2020 Posts: 108 Location: Czechia
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Posted: Sat Feb 05, 2022 3:57 am Post subject: Best Chinese manual lenses for mirrorless APS-C? |
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Fandyus wrote:
Greetings.
I have finally gotten my hands on a mirrorless camera, a Sony a6000. A big upgrade from my previous Canon EF mount camera when it comes to adaptability.
The kit lens I will be selling though, it's fisheye like distortion at wide angles is something I can't get over.
I was thinking I could get one of those bright, wide angle, APS-C only Chinese lenses. I'm talking brands like Kamlan, TTartisan etc.
What are your recommendations? My budget would probably be around 100-150$, as much as I can get for the kit lens.
I was personally eyeing the TTartisan 17mm f/1.4, but I'm open to any suggestions anyone might have.
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Paragon19
Joined: 26 Dec 2021 Posts: 45
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Posted: Sat Feb 05, 2022 4:21 am Post subject: |
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Paragon19 wrote:
I have the TTArtisan 35mm f1.4 in Fujifilm X mount and I like it quite a bit, but I'm still waiting on my copy of the 17mm f1.4 to arrive on the slow boat from China. Estimated delivery is Feb 1st-25th, so it should be arriving any day. If you want to wait I'd be happy to share sample photos and thoughts after I try it out. |
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Dejan
Joined: 05 Jan 2021 Posts: 151 Location: Belgrade, Serbia
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Posted: Sat Feb 05, 2022 10:50 am Post subject: |
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Dejan wrote:
This is an interesting question, considering the number of new lenses that came from China (and I find it hard to distinguish them sometimes, some TTArtisan, or was it 7Artisan lens even seem to perform differently based on the mount difference only...). I was contemplating some of the full frame lenses, but my main concern was the quality check, like potential decentering issues etc., people rarely talk about copy variation (probably because these lenses are so new after all). What I've noticed, based on reviews and posted images, is that the newer generation is much better than the lenses made a couple of years ago; with some exceptions. 17mm lens you mentioned seems to be quite popular and great "bang for the buck". I'm not sure you'll find something similar, such a fast wide angle lens. I know of a great fish eye lens from TTArtisan, but that doesn't make much sense on APS-C, goes above the budget and is... well, fish eye. There are many decent 35mm and 50mm lenses to choose from though, like TTArtisan 50mm F1.4 ff lens I consider buying myself (but there may be better alternatives for a smaller sensor). |
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philslizzy
Joined: 07 Aug 2012 Posts: 4745 Location: Cheshire, England
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Posted: Sat Feb 05, 2022 6:15 pm Post subject: |
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philslizzy wrote:
Ive got the 35mm f2, 50mm f1.1 and 8mm . All really good lenses. Don't discount the 8mm, its equivalent to 12mm on your Sony and is full frame. There's quite a lot of fisheye distortion but hey, its a fisheye. There are lots of examples here on the forum.
The lens is £119 on Amazon UK. Ridiculously cheap. I'd consider getting one as its equal to about 28mm, what I consider a standard lens. _________________ Hero in the 'messin-with-cameras-for-the-hell-of-it department'. Official. |
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KEO
Joined: 27 Sep 2018 Posts: 775 Location: USA
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Posted: Sat Feb 05, 2022 7:41 pm Post subject: |
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KEO wrote:
The TTArtisan 50mm 1.2 is excellent, and dirt cheap.
The Zhong Yi Mitakon 35mm f/0.95 Speedmaster Mark II (not the Mark I) is magnificent. This would be my number one pick. |
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Paragon19
Joined: 26 Dec 2021 Posts: 45
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Posted: Sat Feb 05, 2022 10:29 pm Post subject: |
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Paragon19 wrote:
Paragon19 wrote: |
I have the TTArtisan 35mm f1.4 in Fujifilm X mount and I like it quite a bit, but I'm still waiting on my copy of the 17mm f1.4 to arrive on the slow boat from China. Estimated delivery is Feb 1st-25th, so it should be arriving any day. If you want to wait I'd be happy to share sample photos and thoughts after I try it out. |
The TTArtisan 17mm f1.4 just arrived. I should be able to add some samples in a day or two. |
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cbass
Joined: 27 Jul 2019 Posts: 450
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Posted: Sun Feb 06, 2022 1:19 am Post subject: |
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cbass wrote:
Mitakon 35mm f/0.95 Mark II is my sharpest lens. |
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Fandyus
Joined: 12 Apr 2020 Posts: 108 Location: Czechia
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Posted: Sun Feb 06, 2022 4:02 am Post subject: |
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Fandyus wrote:
Paragon19 wrote: |
I have the TTArtisan 35mm f1.4 in Fujifilm X mount and I like it quite a bit, but I'm still waiting on my copy of the 17mm f1.4 to arrive on the slow boat from China. Estimated delivery is Feb 1st-25th, so it should be arriving any day. If you want to wait I'd be happy to share sample photos and thoughts after I try it out. |
Thanks! I kinda know how the image quality is, thanks to Christopher Frost. I'm really just asking in case anyone here cojkd recommend lenses that are in the same standard focal length zone, but are perhaps sharper, or have some other pros. I know I can't really go wrong with the 17mm f/1.4
Have fun with it! |
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Fandyus
Joined: 12 Apr 2020 Posts: 108 Location: Czechia
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Posted: Sun Feb 06, 2022 4:05 am Post subject: |
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Fandyus wrote:
Dejan wrote: |
This is an interesting question, considering the number of new lenses that came from China (and I find it hard to distinguish them sometimes, some TTArtisan, or was it 7Artisan lens even seem to perform differently based on the mount difference only...). I was contemplating some of the full frame lenses, but my main concern was the quality check, like potential decentering issues etc., people rarely talk about copy variation (probably because these lenses are so new after all). What I've noticed, based on reviews and posted images, is that the newer generation is much better than the lenses made a couple of years ago; with some exceptions. 17mm lens you mentioned seems to be quite popular and great "bang for the buck". I'm not sure you'll find something similar, such a fast wide angle lens. I know of a great fish eye lens from TTArtisan, but that doesn't make much sense on APS-C, goes above the budget and is... well, fish eye. There are many decent 35mm and 50mm lenses to choose from though, like TTArtisan 50mm F1.4 ff lens I consider buying myself (but there may be better alternatives for a smaller sensor). |
Yeah, not really looking for a fisheye unless it's very wide and covers the entire frame. Neber really got the appeal of circular fisheyes but to each their own. I have watched a lot of Christopher Frost reviews of the Chinese lenses and he never had one that was decentered. But iirc a lot of the lenses were sent to him by the manufacturers so they'd make damn sure the lenses are at their best. |
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Fandyus
Joined: 12 Apr 2020 Posts: 108 Location: Czechia
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Posted: Sun Feb 06, 2022 4:07 am Post subject: |
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Fandyus wrote:
KEO wrote: |
The TTArtisan 50mm 1.2 is excellent, and dirt cheap.
The Zhong Yi Mitakon 35mm f/0.95 Speedmaster Mark II (not the Mark I) is magnificent. This would be my number one pick. |
Thanks for the tips. I have a Canon 6D mk I and some nice vintage bright 50mm lenses, so the 35mm one does not appeal to me much, unless someone can confirm it's good for IR.
The 50mm 1.2 sounds good though, I'll check it out. |
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Dejan
Joined: 05 Jan 2021 Posts: 151 Location: Belgrade, Serbia
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Posted: Sun Feb 06, 2022 10:32 am Post subject: |
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Dejan wrote:
I forgot about 7Artisans 12mm F2.8, seems to be a decent APS-C wide angle solution for under 150 eur. I haven't checked any reviews, but my friend is very satisfied with his copy, especially considering the price. |
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Paragon19
Joined: 26 Dec 2021 Posts: 45
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Posted: Sun Feb 06, 2022 12:02 pm Post subject: |
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Paragon19 wrote:
Fandyus wrote: |
Thanks! I kinda know how the image quality is, thanks to Christopher Frost. I'm really just asking in case anyone here cojkd recommend lenses that are in the same standard focal length zone, but are perhaps sharper, or have some other pros. I know I can't really go wrong with the 17mm f/1.4
Have fun with it! |
I see. When I was making my decision on those lenses my impression from reviews was that the TTartisan lenses had less sample variation and performed better overall, but that was mostly compared to similar 7artisan lenses and the Neewer 35mm f1.2. I had trouble finding options from other makers in that price range. |
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