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PostPosted: Tue Nov 13, 2012 4:06 pm    Post subject: any wide angle zoom recommendations? Reply with quote
what would be your preferred manual zoom wide angle lens, in terms of sharpness, color rendering, CA, and in what mount?

any combination (11-24, 18-28, 28-xx, 35-xx)...


PostPosted: Tue Nov 13, 2012 5:09 pm    Post subject: Re: any wide angle zoom recommendations? Reply with quote
Jvg wrote:
what would be your preferred manual zoom wide angle lens, in terms of sharpness, color rendering, CA, and in what mount?

any combination (11-24, 18-28, 28-xx, 35-xx)...

I know its not much in terms of range, but the tokina at-x 35-70mm F2.8 zoom lens is an outstanding performer in all respects mentioned.


PostPosted: Tue Nov 13, 2012 5:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
11-24, 18-28 in this range rather look AF lens, 28-xx 35xx tamron SP lenses are excellent and compatible with any cams.


PostPosted: Tue Nov 13, 2012 6:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Attila wrote:
11-24, 18-28 in this range rather look AF lens, 28-xx 35xx tamron SP lenses are excellent and compatible with any cams.


Agree, ultra wides are usually made for crop sensor cameras. Older manual lenses were made for 35mm full frame cameras and won't be very wide on APS-C or micro four thirds.

Some good ones from Tamron are:

Tamron SP 35-80mm
Tamron SP 24-48mm

Although to be honest, most zoom lenses have only really matured in the last few years (in my opinion) so it's better to look at the high quality prime lenses, of which there are hundreds for very little money!


PostPosted: Tue Nov 13, 2012 6:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Attila wrote:
11-24, 18-28 in this range rather look AF lens, 28-xx 35xx tamron SP lenses are excellent and compatible with any cams.


just saw samyang 18-28mm f4-4.5 wide angle zoom for OM, under $100. is it suppose to be any good?


PostPosted: Tue Nov 13, 2012 6:51 pm    Post subject: Re: any wide angle zoom recommendations? Reply with quote
hifisapi wrote:

I know its not much in terms of range, but the tokina at-x 35-70mm F2.8 zoom lens is an outstanding performer in all respects mentioned.


thanks. i'll see if i can find one at decent price.


PostPosted: Tue Nov 13, 2012 6:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Jvg wrote:
Attila wrote:
11-24, 18-28 in this range rather look AF lens, 28-xx 35xx tamron SP lenses are excellent and compatible with any cams.


just saw samyang 18-28mm f4-4.5 wide angle zoom for OM, under $100. is it suppose to be any good?


No! But it's good fun trying to get a sharp shot out of it Smile

That WAS an ultra wide lens at the time!

Also found as Exakta, Centon etc.

http://forum.mflenses.com/viewtopic.php?t=45966&view=previous


PostPosted: Tue Nov 13, 2012 7:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
ManualFocus-G wrote:


Tamron SP 24-48mm


this looks interesting. very much so, as it will cover the focal length gap in my lens collection. what mounts do they usually come in?

ManualFocus-G wrote:

Although to be honest, most zoom lenses have only really matured in the last few years (in my opinion) so it's better to look at the high quality prime lenses, of which there are hundreds for very little money!


true that. i've few wide angle primes, but very rarely use them. so it got me thinking, instead of carrying 4 of them (24,28, 35 & 37), i could simply get a zoom instead. ideally, i would want something in the range of 17-50mm with manual focus, but i doubt such glass even exists. or does it?


PostPosted: Tue Nov 13, 2012 7:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Jvg wrote:
ManualFocus-G wrote:


Tamron SP 24-48mm


this looks interesting. very much so, as it will cover the focal length gap in my lens collection. what mounts do they usually come in?


The Adaptall-2 mount is universal, you attach whatever mount your camera needs Smile

Jvg wrote:

ManualFocus-G wrote:

Although to be honest, most zoom lenses have only really matured in the last few years (in my opinion) so it's better to look at the high quality prime lenses, of which there are hundreds for very little money!


true that. i've few wide angle primes, but very rarely use them. so it got me thinking, instead of carrying 4 of them (24,28, 35 & 37), i could simply get a zoom instead. ideally, i would want something in the range of 17-50mm with manual focus, but i doubt such glass even exists. or does it?


No, not really.


PostPosted: Tue Nov 13, 2012 7:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Really wide angle zoom?

Go for an AF lens.

There are some nice MF zoom lenses that start with 24mm. Anything below are no good performers or really expensive (Leica 21-35).


PostPosted: Tue Nov 13, 2012 7:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
ManualFocus-G wrote:
Jvg wrote:
Attila wrote:
11-24, 18-28 in this range rather look AF lens, 28-xx 35xx tamron SP lenses are excellent and compatible with any cams.


just saw samyang 18-28mm f4-4.5 wide angle zoom for OM, under $100. is it suppose to be any good?


No! But it's good fun trying to get a sharp shot out of it Smile

That WAS an ultra wide lens at the time!

Also found as Exakta, Centon etc.

http://forum.mflenses.com/viewtopic.php?t=45966&view=previous


good thing i didn't buy it then Smile


PostPosted: Tue Nov 13, 2012 7:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
LucisPictor wrote:


Go for an AF lens.


already got one, a kit lens 18-55, but not happy with it all. and for the occasional use, prefer not to spend few hundred bucks on more expensive, better performing glass.


PostPosted: Tue Nov 13, 2012 7:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Jvg wrote:
LucisPictor wrote:


Go for an AF lens.


already got one, a kit lens 18-55, but not happy with it all. and for the occasional use, prefer not to spend few hundred bucks on more expensive, better performing glass.


What camera are you using?


PostPosted: Tue Nov 13, 2012 7:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Exactly what I was going to ask. Forget all those fiddly Tamrons! Smile

Can you mount Minolta SR lenses? I have never, ever, seen better zoom lenses than the Minolta MD fixed aperture range. I have the 3.5/35-70 and the 4/80-210 and I will be in the market soon for a 3.5/24-35 or 4/24-50. Really, they are superb, built in collaboration with Leica I believe.


PostPosted: Tue Nov 13, 2012 7:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
ManualFocus-G wrote:
Jvg wrote:
LucisPictor wrote:


Go for an AF lens.


already got one, a kit lens 18-55, but not happy with it all. and for the occasional use, prefer not to spend few hundred bucks on more expensive, better performing glass.


What camera are you using?


yashica tl electro x and canon t2i for now. eventually plan to move to sony nex-7.


PostPosted: Tue Nov 13, 2012 8:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
peterqd wrote:
Exactly what I was going to ask. Forget all those fiddly Tamrons! Smile

Can you mount Minolta SR lenses? I have never, ever, seen better zoom lenses than the Minolta MD fixed aperture range. I have the 3.5/35-70 and the 4/80-210 and I will be in the market soon for a 3.5/24-35 or 4/24-50. Really, they are superb, built in collaboration with Leica I believe.


unfortunately - not without intermediate glass element in the adapter, and not yet (until i upgrade my camera - it's gonna be a while though)... i've seen some adapters md to eos, but not sure if they're any good, and how badly they degrade the IQ.


PostPosted: Tue Nov 13, 2012 8:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Sorry, posts overlapped.

THe MD>EOS adapters with glass are rubbish - don't bother. But when you get the NEX-7, brilliant! NEX-7 + Kit lens + Minolta MD 3.5/35-70 Macro. That's my walkabout set. The zoom was only about £30.


PostPosted: Tue Nov 13, 2012 8:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
I'll see if I have any pictures I can post. In the meantime, look for Rolf's pictures with his Leica 35-70 - it's the same lens.


PostPosted: Tue Nov 13, 2012 8:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
peterqd wrote:
Exactly what I was going to ask. Forget all those fiddly Tamrons! Smile

Can you mount Minolta SR lenses? I have never, ever, seen better zoom lenses than the Minolta MD fixed aperture range. I have the 3.5/35-70 and the 4/80-210 and I will be in the market soon for a 3.5/24-35 or 4/24-50. Really, they are superb, built in collaboration with Leica I believe.


I have to agree with Peter, the Minolta's are excellent lenses. But don't disregard the Tamron's; I have both the 24-48mm and 35-80mm and they are excellent performers too! BTW, Peter has made a slight typo; the Minolta MD zoom he is referring to is the 4/70-210mm.


PostPosted: Tue Nov 13, 2012 8:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
DigiChromeEd wrote:
peterqd wrote:
Exactly what I was going to ask. Forget all those fiddly Tamrons! Smile

Can you mount Minolta SR lenses? I have never, ever, seen better zoom lenses than the Minolta MD fixed aperture range. I have the 3.5/35-70 and the 4/80-210 and I will be in the market soon for a 3.5/24-35 or 4/24-50. Really, they are superb, built in collaboration with Leica I believe.


I have to agree with Peter, the Minolta's are excellent lenses. But don't disregard the Tamron's; I have both the 24-48mm and 35-80mm and they are excellent performers too! BTW, Peter has made a slight typo; the Minolta MD zoom he is referring to is the 4/70-210mm.


for sure, on my next trip to the camera store (this saturday), i will look for tamron sp 24-48.


PostPosted: Tue Nov 13, 2012 8:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
+1 on 24-48 tamron sp


PostPosted: Tue Nov 13, 2012 9:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
The Tamrons are really good, I agree. I have three and I used them a lot on the Canon but I'm going to be selling them soon because I prefer the MDs on the NEX. I find the way the aperture dials connect to the AD2 adapters makes it a bit fiddly to change aperture sometimes. But if you're going to be using your Canon for a while then they're exceptional quality and very good value for money.
The Zeiss Vario lenses are probably the only zooms I would consider are better for use on the Canon, but they're in a different price league altogether.

Yep, it's 70-210 for the MD, sorry. I was probably muddling it up with my Tamron 103A.


PostPosted: Tue Nov 13, 2012 9:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
thank you everyone for some useful info here. Smile

much appreciated.


PostPosted: Wed Nov 14, 2012 7:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
LucisPictor wrote:
Really wide angle zoom?

Go for an AF lens.

+1

peterqd wrote:
Exactly what I was going to ask. Forget all those fiddly Tamrons! Smile

Fiddly? Laughing


PostPosted: Wed Nov 14, 2012 11:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
martinsmith99 wrote:
peterqd wrote:
Exactly what I was going to ask. Forget all those fiddly Tamrons! Smile

Fiddly? Laughing


Yes, see above. The aperture dial has to be connected with those springy things that fit into the notches. With the PK adapter, at least, the aperture dial gets progressively stiffer as you turn the dial towards the closed end, and the springy things sometimes pop out of the notches. Have you never experienced that?
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