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philslizzy
Joined: 07 Aug 2012 Posts: 4745 Location: Cheshire, England
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Posted: Sun Apr 07, 2019 5:05 pm Post subject: Any reason why this combo shouldn't work? |
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philslizzy wrote:
I've got myself a 200mm Telyt and visoflex housing. I'm looking for other lenses to go on the visoflex and cobbled together an adapter for my 500mm T2 fit mirror lens. Any reason why this lightweight but powerful combination wouldn't work?
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philslizzy
Joined: 07 Aug 2012 Posts: 4745 Location: Cheshire, England
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Posted: Sun Apr 07, 2019 7:31 pm Post subject: |
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philslizzy wrote:
Despite the apparent disparity between a T2's flange focal and Visoflex II's it works really well. Adapter is a T2 ring (from a mount) and a LM male mount from a LM adapter. Drilled and screwed together.
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kansalliskala
Joined: 19 Jul 2007 Posts: 5046 Location: Southern Finland countryside
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Posted: Mon Apr 08, 2019 6:30 am Post subject: |
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kansalliskala wrote:
Nice!
Any 50's spy would have really liked that combo. _________________ MF: Kodak DCS SLR/c; Samsung NX10; OM-10; Canon T50
Zuiko 28/3.5, Distagon 35/2.8; Yashica ML 50/2;
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Tamron AD1 135/2.8, Soligor 180/3.5; Tamron AD1 300/5.6
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Yashicaflex C; Київ 4 + Юпитер 8, 11; Polaroid 100; Olympus XA; Yashica T3
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philslizzy
Joined: 07 Aug 2012 Posts: 4745 Location: Cheshire, England
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Posted: Thu May 09, 2019 8:19 pm Post subject: |
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philslizzy wrote:
kansalliskala wrote: |
Nice!
Any 50's spy would have really liked that combo. |
Light and easy to use. The focus screen on the visoflex isnt easy, I've put a brighter one in but the central split image just won't work.
Any suggestions what may be a good screen to use?
I appear to be able to fit pretty much anything in it. _________________ Hero in the 'messin-with-cameras-for-the-hell-of-it department'. Official. |
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kansalliskala
Joined: 19 Jul 2007 Posts: 5046 Location: Southern Finland countryside
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Posted: Fri May 10, 2019 6:36 am Post subject: |
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kansalliskala wrote:
philslizzy wrote: |
kansalliskala wrote: |
Nice!
Any 50's spy would have really liked that combo. |
Light and easy to use. The focus screen on the visoflex isnt easy, I've put a brighter one in but the central split image just won't work.
Any suggestions what may be a good screen to use?
I appear to be able to fit pretty much anything in it. |
too slow lens? is the other side of the split just black?
I had a 300/5.6 that was just and just usable _________________ MF: Kodak DCS SLR/c; Samsung NX10; OM-10; Canon T50
Zuiko 28/3.5, Distagon 35/2.8; Yashica ML 50/2;
Zuiko 50/1.4; S-M-C 120/2.8; Zuiko 135/3.5; 200/5;
Tamron AD1 135/2.8, Soligor 180/3.5; Tamron AD1 300/5.6
Tamron zooms: 01A, Z-210
Yashicaflex C; Київ 4 + Юпитер 8, 11; Polaroid 100; Olympus XA; Yashica T3
Museum stuff: Certo-Phot; Tele-Edixon 135; Polaris 90-190; Asahi Bellows; Ixus IIs
Projects: Agfa Isolette III (no shutter), Canon AE-1D (no sensor),
Nikon D80 (dead), The "Peace Camera"
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DConvert
Joined: 12 Jun 2010 Posts: 921 Location: Essex UK
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Posted: Fri May 10, 2019 1:24 pm Post subject: |
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DConvert wrote:
Split viewfinders do get very difficult to use with longer focal lengths. IIRC moving my eye around the viewfinder very slightly usually managed to get the dark side visible with my 300mm lens. The longer the focal length the more critical eye placement becomes.
I can't swear to it but I think I may have occasionally got it working with a 500mm f/8 mirror lens on my old Pentax ME, but perhaps it was just the microprisms. |
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visualopsins
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Posted: Fri May 10, 2019 3:54 pm Post subject: |
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visualopsins wrote:
DConvert wrote: |
Split viewfinders do get very difficult to use with longer focal lengths. IIRC moving my eye around the viewfinder very slightly usually managed to get the dark side visible with my 300mm lens. The longer the focal length the more critical eye placement becomes.
I can't swear to it but I think I may have occasionally got it working with a 500mm f/8 mirror lens on my old Pentax ME, but perhaps it was just the microprisms. |
+1 Same experience with 300mm & longer on Spotmatic camera viewfinders. IMHO optical viewfinder is challenged longer FL on all cameras no matter what screen. Don't know about mirrorless. _________________ ☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮ like attracts like! ☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮
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Tamron SP 17mm f/3.5 (51B), Tamron SP 17mm f/3.5 (151B), SP 500mm f/8 (55BB), SP 70-210mm f/3.5 (19AH)
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DConvert
Joined: 12 Jun 2010 Posts: 921 Location: Essex UK
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Posted: Fri May 10, 2019 6:24 pm Post subject: |
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DConvert wrote:
visualopsins wrote: |
DConvert wrote: |
Split viewfinders do get very difficult to use with longer focal lengths. IIRC moving my eye around the viewfinder very slightly usually managed to get the dark side visible with my 300mm lens. The longer the focal length the more critical eye placement becomes.
I can't swear to it but I think I may have occasionally got it working with a 500mm f/8 mirror lens on my old Pentax ME, but perhaps it was just the microprisms. |
+1 Same experience with 300mm & longer on Spotmatic camera viewfinders. IMHO optical viewfinder is challenged longer FL on all cameras no matter what screen. Don't know about mirrorless. |
There are other viewing screens that work better for long focal lengths on SLRs I've never changed from the cameras default - which was great on my Pentax film SLRs (even the auto110)
I gather rangefinder film cameras typically don't work at all well with focal lengths over 135mm, but digital mirrorless don't care at all about the focal length. Any focus aids work directly off the sensor I've used them with focal lengths up to 1000mm (and at 600mm with wavelengths only outside human perception - IR)
Of course focusing long lenses is always more tricky than wide lenses. |
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spleenone
Joined: 26 Dec 2009 Posts: 1130 Location: Slovakia
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Posted: Mon May 13, 2019 7:40 pm Post subject: |
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spleenone wrote:
Wow, good results, indeed. That duck sample has some magic inside. _________________ Shoot on analog mainly with
Nikkor glass
then Pentacon6TL for squares
and Fujica GL690 in case of 6x9
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cooltouch
Joined: 15 Jan 2009 Posts: 9096 Location: Houston, Texas
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Posted: Tue May 14, 2019 11:07 am Post subject: |
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cooltouch wrote:
[quote="philslizzy"]
kansalliskala wrote: |
Any suggestions what may be a good screen to use?
I appear to be able to fit pretty much anything in it. |
I've shot many a roll of film with slow mirrors, and cameras with split-image or microprism spot focusing screens were always a major annoyance. With any of my cameras that took interchangeable focusing screens, I always installed plain matte or ground glass screens.
It took me some time getting used to focusing with these screens, but with practice, I got it. I also bought an eyepiece magnifier to aid focusing, which I ended up using only some of the time. I found I needed it less and less as I got more and more used to the plain screens.
So, since you can use most anything, I'd determine the optimum thickness for the screen you want to use and then proceed from there. Because I'd be surprised if any focusing screen can be used. I'm thinking the screens for the Canon F-1 for example, which are about 1/4" (about 5mm) thick. And the Nikon F series screens are only somewhat thinner. Whereas screens for the Nikon FE/FE2 or the Canon AE-1 Program, for example, are a good deal thinner. _________________ Michael
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philslizzy
Joined: 07 Aug 2012 Posts: 4745 Location: Cheshire, England
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Posted: Thu May 23, 2019 9:13 pm Post subject: |
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philslizzy wrote:
I'll put the original one back on. It seems better. Plus I've had some a bit off-focus. The setup is compact and works well. _________________ Hero in the 'messin-with-cameras-for-the-hell-of-it department'. Official. |
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