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SVP
Joined: 15 Jan 2009 Posts: 665 Location: Greece
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Posted: Sat Oct 20, 2012 1:46 pm Post subject: Angenieux x2, plus CV APO-Lanthar, plus a surprise... |
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SVP wrote:
pich900 wrote: |
Thanks a lot Spyros for your nice word! I'm sure my lenses have found a nice new home and I'm looking forward to see your pictures with these great lenses ..... |
Well, just some test-snapshots for a start, using a pot of humble chrysanthemums as a model (all four pics on Kodak DCS pro SLR/n @1/90"):
Angenieux 90/2.5 type Y12 @f/5.6 (~1.3m away):
Angenieux 180/4.5 type P21 @f/5.6 (~2.5m away):
APO-Lanthar 180/4 SL @f/5.6 (~2.5m away):
...and finally, the surprise, Kyoei Acall 135/3.5 wide-open, with L39/Nikon F adaptor (~0.6m away):
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paulhofseth
Joined: 05 Mar 2011 Posts: 575 Location: Norway
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Posted: Sat Oct 20, 2012 2:04 pm Post subject: Angenieux 2,5m |
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paulhofseth wrote:
2,5 must be about the closest one gets. My P21 in M42 mount focuses to 8 1/2 feet. I suspect they were computed for longer distances.
Also, I note that you are labelled as in Greece; hold on to the Angenieux; having easily traded, desirable optics may be a good way to hedge against Euro\Drachma losses (or Euro\Peseta for that matter).
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SVP
Joined: 15 Jan 2009 Posts: 665 Location: Greece
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Posted: Sat Oct 20, 2012 8:36 pm Post subject: Re: Angenieux 2,5m |
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SVP wrote:
paulhofseth wrote: |
2,5 must be about the closest one gets. My P21 in M42 mount focuses to 8 1/2 feet...................................... |
True, all three samples I own (the other two being Alpa Alitars) have a mfd of 2.35m~2.4m. |
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Attila
Joined: 24 Feb 2007 Posts: 57865 Location: Hungary
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Posted: Sat Oct 20, 2012 9:07 pm Post subject: |
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Attila wrote:
Rare opportunity to see these together, thank you for sharing them. Seems first three has 'built-in' Photoshop come out perfect , not require any PP, last will be great too with little PP. _________________ -------------------------------
Items on sale on Ebay
Sony NEX-7 Carl Zeiss Planar 85mm f1.4, Minolta MD 35mm f1.8, Konica 135mm f2.5, Minolta MD 50mm f1.2, Minolta MD 250mm f5.6, Carl Zeiss Sonnar 180mm f2.8
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patrickh
Joined: 23 Aug 2007 Posts: 8551 Location: Oregon
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Posted: Sat Oct 20, 2012 10:06 pm Post subject: |
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patrickh wrote:
I just got the Kyoei in exakta mount. Can't wait for it to arrive - cost me all of $7
patrickh _________________ DSLR: Nikon D300 Nikon D200 Nex 5N
MF Zooms: Kiron 28-85/3.5, 28-105/3.2, 75-150/3.5, Nikkor 50-135/3.5 AIS // MF Primes: Nikkor 20/4 AI, 24/2 AI, 28/2 AI, 28/2.8 AIS, 28/3.5 AI, 35/1.4 AIS, 35/2 AIS, 35/2.8 PC, 45/2.8 P, 50/1.4 AIS, 50/1.8 AIS, 50/2 AI, 55/2.8 AIS micro, 55/3.5 AI micro, 85/2 AI, 100/2,8 E, 105/1,8 AIS, 105/2,5 AIS, 135/2 AIS, 135/2.8 AIS, 200/4 AI, 200/4 AIS micro, 300/4.5 AI, 300/4.5 AI ED, Arsat 50/1.4, Kiron 28/2, Vivitar 28/2.5, Panagor 135/2.8, Tamron 28/2.5, Tamron 90/2.5 macro, Vivitar 90/2.5 macro (Tokina) Voigtlander 90/3.5 Vivitar 105/2.5 macro (Kiron) Kaleinar 100/2.8 AI Tamron 135/2.5, Vivitar 135/2.8CF, 200/3.5, Tokina 400/5,6
M42: Vivitar 28/2.5, Tamron 28/2.5, Formula5 28/2.8, Mamiya 28/2.8, Pentacon 29/2.8, Flektogon 35/2.4, Flektogon 35/2.8, Takumar 35/3.5, Curtagon 35/4, Takumar 50/1.4, Volna-6 50/2.8 macro, Mamiya 50/1.4, CZJ Pancolar 50/1,8, Oreston 50/1.8, Takumar 50/2, Industar 50/3.5, Sears 55/1.4, Helios 58/2, Jupiter 85/2, Helios 85/1.5, Takumar 105/2.8, Steinheil macro 105/4.5, Tamron 135/2.5, Jupiter 135/4, CZ 135/4, Steinheil Culminar 135/4,5, Jupiter 135/3.5, Takumar 135/3.5, Tair 135/2.8, Pentacon 135/2.8, CZ 135/2.8, Taika 135/3.5, Takumar 150/4, Jupiter 200/4, Takumar 200/4
Exakta: Topcon 100/2.8(M42), 35/2.8, 58/1.8, 135/2.8, 135/2.8 (M42), Kyoei Acall 135/3.5
C/Y: Yashica 28/2.8, 50/1.7, 135/2.8, Zeiss Planar 50/1.4, Distagon 25/2.8
Hexanon: 28/3.5, 35/2.8, 40/1.8, 50/1.7, 52/1.8, 135/3.2, 135/3.5, 35-70/3.5, 200/3.5
P6 : Mir 38 65/3.5, Biometar 80/2.8, Kaleinar 150/2.8, Sonnar 180/2.8
Minolta SR: 28/2.8, 28/3.5, 35/2.8, 45/2, 50/2, 58/1.4, 50/1.7, 135/2.8, 200/3.5
RF: Industar 53/2.8, Jupiter 8 50/2
Enlarg: Rodagon 50/5,6, 80/5,6, 105/5.6, Vario 44-52/4, 150/5.6 180/5.6 El Nikkor 50/2,8,63/2.8,75/4, 80/5,6, 105/5.6, 135/5.6 Schneider 60/5.6, 80/5.6, 80/4S,100/5.6S,105/5.6,135/5.6, 135/5.6S, 150/5.6S, Leica 95/4 |
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paulhofseth
Joined: 05 Mar 2011 Posts: 575 Location: Norway
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Posted: Sun Oct 21, 2012 5:43 am Post subject: Re: Angenieux 2,5m |
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paulhofseth wrote:
SVP wrote: |
paulhofseth wrote: |
2,5 must be about the closest one gets. My P21 in M42 mount focuses to 8 1/2 feet...................................... |
True, all three samples I own (the other two being Alpa Alitars) have a mfd of 2.35m~2.4m. |
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And the Alpa brochure presenting the Alitar 180 pre-autoaperture version, says that they are ideal for long distance.
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kds315*
Joined: 12 Mar 2008 Posts: 16639 Location: Weinheim, Germany
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Posted: Sun Oct 21, 2012 9:48 am Post subject: |
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kds315* wrote:
Nice presentation Spyros, that well know fine 90mm Angenieux really shines! _________________ Klaus - Admin
"S'il vient a point, me souviendra" [Thomas Bohier (1460-1523)]
http://www.macrolenses.de for macro and special lens info
http://www.pbase.com/kds315/uv_photos for UV Images and lens/filter info
https://www.flickr.com/photos/kds315/albums my albums using various lenses
http://photographyoftheinvisibleworld.blogspot.com/ my UV BLOG
http://www.travelmeetsfood.com/blog Food + Travel BLOG
https://galeriafotografia.com Architecture + Drone photography
Currently most FAV lens(es):
X80QF f3.2/80mm
Hypergon f11/26mm
ELCAN UV f5.6/52mm
Zeiss UV-Planar f4/60mm
Zeiss UV-Planar f2/62mm
Lomo Уфар-12 f2.5/41mm
Lomo Зуфар-2 f4.0/350mm
Lomo ZIKAR-1A f1.2/100mm
Nikon UV Nikkor f4.5/105mm
Zeiss UV-Sonnar f4.3/105mm
CERCO UV-VIS-NIR f1.8/45mm
CERCO UV-VIS-NIR f4.1/94mm
CERCO UV-VIS-NIR f2.8/100mm
Steinheil Quarzobjektiv f1.8/50mm
Pentax Quartz Takumar f3.5/85mm
Carl Zeiss Jena UV-Objektiv f4/60mm
NYE OPTICAL Lyman-Alpha II f1.1/90mm
NYE OPTICAL Lyman-Alpha I f2.8/200mm
COASTAL OPTICS f4/60mm UV-VIS-IR Apo
COASTAL OPTICS f4.5/105mm UV-Micro-Apo
Pentax Ultra-Achromatic Takumar f4.5/85mm
Pentax Ultra-Achromatic Takumar f5.6/300mm
Rodenstock UV-Rodagon f5.6/60mm + 105mm + 150mm
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poilu
Joined: 26 Aug 2007 Posts: 10472 Location: Greece
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Posted: Sun Oct 21, 2012 11:03 am Post subject: |
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poilu wrote:
beautiful collection of lenses and flowers ! _________________ T* |
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SVP
Joined: 15 Jan 2009 Posts: 665 Location: Greece
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Posted: Mon Oct 22, 2012 9:29 am Post subject: |
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SVP wrote:
Thank you all!
PS: The surprise I mentioned has to do with the Kyoei Acall being able to render such decent results despite: (a) apparent haze and a couple of serious scratches inside the front group and (b) the short distance to subject (due to it being a L39 lens mounted on a Nikon F body).
Given that both "defects" were well known to me prior to the acquisition, I couldn't wait to test the lens in order to assess any effect: a very nice surprise indeed! |
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SVP
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Posted: Sat Oct 27, 2012 9:09 pm Post subject: |
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SVP wrote:
I (easily) removed the haze from the Kyoei Acall and did a second test - the results got better (all pics wide-open & handheld):
For the sake of comparison, the same subjects shot with the Micro-Nikkor 200/4:
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patrickh
Joined: 23 Aug 2007 Posts: 8551 Location: Oregon
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Posted: Sat Oct 27, 2012 10:06 pm Post subject: |
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patrickh wrote:
Ahhh that OOF - nice and creamy. I can't wait to try out my exakta version of this odd lens (kyoei). Still waiting on a) health and b) weather
patrickh _________________ DSLR: Nikon D300 Nikon D200 Nex 5N
MF Zooms: Kiron 28-85/3.5, 28-105/3.2, 75-150/3.5, Nikkor 50-135/3.5 AIS // MF Primes: Nikkor 20/4 AI, 24/2 AI, 28/2 AI, 28/2.8 AIS, 28/3.5 AI, 35/1.4 AIS, 35/2 AIS, 35/2.8 PC, 45/2.8 P, 50/1.4 AIS, 50/1.8 AIS, 50/2 AI, 55/2.8 AIS micro, 55/3.5 AI micro, 85/2 AI, 100/2,8 E, 105/1,8 AIS, 105/2,5 AIS, 135/2 AIS, 135/2.8 AIS, 200/4 AI, 200/4 AIS micro, 300/4.5 AI, 300/4.5 AI ED, Arsat 50/1.4, Kiron 28/2, Vivitar 28/2.5, Panagor 135/2.8, Tamron 28/2.5, Tamron 90/2.5 macro, Vivitar 90/2.5 macro (Tokina) Voigtlander 90/3.5 Vivitar 105/2.5 macro (Kiron) Kaleinar 100/2.8 AI Tamron 135/2.5, Vivitar 135/2.8CF, 200/3.5, Tokina 400/5,6
M42: Vivitar 28/2.5, Tamron 28/2.5, Formula5 28/2.8, Mamiya 28/2.8, Pentacon 29/2.8, Flektogon 35/2.4, Flektogon 35/2.8, Takumar 35/3.5, Curtagon 35/4, Takumar 50/1.4, Volna-6 50/2.8 macro, Mamiya 50/1.4, CZJ Pancolar 50/1,8, Oreston 50/1.8, Takumar 50/2, Industar 50/3.5, Sears 55/1.4, Helios 58/2, Jupiter 85/2, Helios 85/1.5, Takumar 105/2.8, Steinheil macro 105/4.5, Tamron 135/2.5, Jupiter 135/4, CZ 135/4, Steinheil Culminar 135/4,5, Jupiter 135/3.5, Takumar 135/3.5, Tair 135/2.8, Pentacon 135/2.8, CZ 135/2.8, Taika 135/3.5, Takumar 150/4, Jupiter 200/4, Takumar 200/4
Exakta: Topcon 100/2.8(M42), 35/2.8, 58/1.8, 135/2.8, 135/2.8 (M42), Kyoei Acall 135/3.5
C/Y: Yashica 28/2.8, 50/1.7, 135/2.8, Zeiss Planar 50/1.4, Distagon 25/2.8
Hexanon: 28/3.5, 35/2.8, 40/1.8, 50/1.7, 52/1.8, 135/3.2, 135/3.5, 35-70/3.5, 200/3.5
P6 : Mir 38 65/3.5, Biometar 80/2.8, Kaleinar 150/2.8, Sonnar 180/2.8
Minolta SR: 28/2.8, 28/3.5, 35/2.8, 45/2, 50/2, 58/1.4, 50/1.7, 135/2.8, 200/3.5
RF: Industar 53/2.8, Jupiter 8 50/2
Enlarg: Rodagon 50/5,6, 80/5,6, 105/5.6, Vario 44-52/4, 150/5.6 180/5.6 El Nikkor 50/2,8,63/2.8,75/4, 80/5,6, 105/5.6, 135/5.6 Schneider 60/5.6, 80/5.6, 80/4S,100/5.6S,105/5.6,135/5.6, 135/5.6S, 150/5.6S, Leica 95/4 |
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SVP
Joined: 15 Jan 2009 Posts: 665 Location: Greece
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Posted: Sun Oct 28, 2012 8:19 pm Post subject: |
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SVP wrote:
Yes, I like this lens a lot:
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pich900
Joined: 10 Jun 2007 Posts: 1745 Location: The Netherlands/Zwolle
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Posted: Sun Oct 28, 2012 8:25 pm Post subject: |
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pich900 wrote:
Great samples with your new lens ....and yes, the kyoei is a surprising good lens....that's also a good news if you removed the haze, I did tried it but it was not successful!.... _________________ All my lenses are for sale, nikkor, Angenieux, Zeiss etc.....
Regards,
Pascal
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SVP
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Posted: Sun Oct 28, 2012 9:31 pm Post subject: |
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SVP wrote:
Thank you Pascal!
With a Nikon/LTM adapter the 135/3.5 Kyoei focuses from quite close to max. 1.5m, thus becoming a serious alternative to macro lenses for the particular range (judging from its nice performance). |
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pich900
Joined: 10 Jun 2007 Posts: 1745 Location: The Netherlands/Zwolle
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Posted: Sun Oct 28, 2012 9:46 pm Post subject: |
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pich900 wrote:
yes I know, I did use this lens on the D700 and got some nice results as well except some low contrast wide open but it was may be due to the haze!...
here some flowers closed up with this lens on D700:
_________________ All my lenses are for sale, nikkor, Angenieux, Zeiss etc.....
Regards,
Pascal
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Oreste
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Posted: Mon Oct 29, 2012 12:17 am Post subject: |
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Oreste wrote:
To do proper lens tests, you need a test chart. These 'tests' are of little value, as subject and camera movement is possible. |
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SVP
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Posted: Mon Oct 29, 2012 12:15 pm Post subject: |
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SVP wrote:
Oreste wrote: |
To do proper lens tests, you need a test chart. These 'tests' are of little value, as subject and camera movement is possible. |
Sure, no doubt about this; that's why I called these pics "test-snapshots" from the very beginning, to denote that these are NOT part of a proper test. |
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SVP
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Posted: Sat Nov 24, 2012 9:47 pm Post subject: |
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SVP wrote:
Did I say I love the Kyoei 135?
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