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berw
Joined: 20 Oct 2012 Posts: 38
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Posted: Tue Jan 01, 2013 8:09 pm Post subject: Agfa Color 50mm f/1.4, Rikenon 50mm f/1.4, SMC Takumar 55mm |
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berw wrote:
Well, i was a little bored, so i made a little comparison. I wanted to see how some of my lenses compare to my Canon EF-S 60mm macro. The Canon is known as a sharp lens with nice rendering, and it's my most used lens, so ...
Agfa color 50mm f/1.4, XR Rikenon 50mm f/1.4, S-M-C Takumar 55mm f/1.8, Helios 44-3 58mm f/2 and the Canon macro.
Most lenses are good at f/5.6 or 8, so i compared them at 2.8, since the Canon can't go more than that. Canon 450D, standard picture style, focus via Live view, from tripod, 2 sec. self-timer, same white balance, same exposure time ...
Agfa
Rikenon
Takumar
Helios
Canon
100% crops
Agfa
Rikenon
Takumar
Helios
Canon
Conclusions? Except that something is wrong with the Takumar (i should look into that) ... |
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hifisapi
Joined: 25 Sep 2012 Posts: 941 Location: USA
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Posted: Tue Jan 01, 2013 8:15 pm Post subject: |
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hifisapi wrote:
Yeah, something isnt right with the takumar, it almost looks like there was vibration of camera during shot. _________________ ===========
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berw
Joined: 20 Oct 2012 Posts: 38
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Posted: Tue Jan 01, 2013 8:23 pm Post subject: |
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berw wrote:
There was no vibration. It looked strange even with the Live view focusing. I guess some of the inner elements have moved. |
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Attila
Joined: 24 Feb 2007 Posts: 57865 Location: Hungary
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Posted: Tue Jan 01, 2013 8:23 pm Post subject: |
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Attila wrote:
Looks all good to me, thank you for you time and effort. _________________ -------------------------------
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jjphoto
Joined: 17 Mar 2009 Posts: 414
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Posted: Tue Jan 01, 2013 9:48 pm Post subject: |
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jjphoto wrote:
berw wrote: |
There was no vibration. It looked strange even with the Live view focusing. I guess some of the inner elements have moved. |
Did you focus the lenses whilst stopped down to F2.8 or did you focus them wide open and THEN stop them down to shoot? If the latter then focus shift may be a problem. |
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Lloydy
Joined: 02 Sep 2009 Posts: 7795 Location: Ironbridge. UK.
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Posted: Tue Jan 01, 2013 10:22 pm Post subject: |
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Lloydy wrote:
I really can't tell you why, but the Rikenon impresses me. The Canon is very very good, but somehow the Rikenon just has 'something' I like. _________________ LENSES & CAMERAS FOR SALE.....
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berw
Joined: 20 Oct 2012 Posts: 38
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Posted: Tue Jan 01, 2013 10:30 pm Post subject: |
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berw wrote:
Focusing was done at f/2.8. I just checked the lens, and found the problem. The ring under the name plate, that holds the front glass element was not tightened, so the front glass could move. I need to fine-tune it and then tighten the ring.
I noticed that the Agfa and the Rikenon are sharper, but let through less light than the other two. Is that normal variation between lenses? |
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sonyrokkor
Joined: 24 Sep 2012 Posts: 222 Location: Perù, Argentina, Chile, Uruguay
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Posted: Tue Jan 01, 2013 10:45 pm Post subject: |
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sonyrokkor wrote:
All are good, like Attila said.
The canon and the helios are my favs. |
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Attila
Joined: 24 Feb 2007 Posts: 57865 Location: Hungary
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Posted: Tue Jan 01, 2013 11:55 pm Post subject: |
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Attila wrote:
I did change title , search engines and built in search both use title 'I get bored' will be hidden for ever 2 weeks later. _________________ -------------------------------
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Lightshow
Joined: 04 Nov 2011 Posts: 3666 Location: Calgary
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Posted: Wed Jan 02, 2013 6:50 am Post subject: |
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Lightshow wrote:
Thanks for being bored...
I've been looking for an Agfa, & I'm still looking, something about the draw I like. _________________ A Manual Focus Junky...
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