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PostPosted: Thu Dec 17, 2020 1:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Lightshow wrote:
I don't think you can go wrong with any of the lenses you listed, they all should perform quite well, the Tokina may be a bit slower, but it gains more focus range, the M is more compact for travel, and the R is in between.

I too have a sizeable Macro collection, I love them for general use, they're not as fast, but you gain more flexibility with the closer focusing that provides more options for composition of whatever you come across when you're out exploring.

My Leica R 60/2.8 & 100/2.8 APO are a great combo, they are sharp corner to corner from MFD to infinity, the approximately 700 degrees of focus ring rotation on the 100 gives you oodles of focus control at all focus distances.



Thank you, Lightshow.

Finally I bought the Tokina and, after, the voigtlander apo asph 65/2.

Nice the two to play with.

Your Apo 100!!!!

What marvelous lens. Congrats!!!

Some pros used the 60 for reportages and casual portraits, all in one lens


PostPosted: Tue Dec 22, 2020 1:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
papasito wrote:
Lightshow wrote:
I don't think you can go wrong with any of the lenses you listed, they all should perform quite well, the Tokina may be a bit slower, but it gains more focus range, the M is more compact for travel, and the R is in between.

I too have a sizeable Macro collection, I love them for general use, they're not as fast, but you gain more flexibility with the closer focusing that provides more options for composition of whatever you come across when you're out exploring.

My Leica R 60/2.8 & 100/2.8 APO are a great combo, they are sharp corner to corner from MFD to infinity, the approximately 700 degrees of focus ring rotation on the 100 gives you oodles of focus control at all focus distances.



Thank you, Lightshow.

Finally I bought the Tokina and, after, the voigtlander apo asph 65/2.

Nice the two to play with.

Your Apo 100!!!!

What marvelous lens. Congrats!!!

Some pros used the 60 for reportages and casual portraits, all in one lens


Thanks, I wish my lens came with its Elpro lifesize adapter, but I'm quite happy with what it can do on its own, I was surprised at how good it was at long distance.
Some of my pics with it https://www.flickr.com/photos/lightshow-photography/tags/leicar100apomacroelmarit/
Yes the 60 can handle many different genre of photography, it's only weakness is a bokeh that can tend towards busy in some situations, but otherwise great for what ever you come across.


PostPosted: Tue Dec 22, 2020 2:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Lightshow

I watched your pics. Great ones.

Obviously you have an apo lens and it's a Leica!!!!

What else? You are a good photographer.

All is said.

Congrats.

About the bokeh, I saw a lot of masterpieces from masters like C. Bresson with so so bokeh, sometimes with the 3,5/50 mm elmar in his leica.

Perhaps the bokeh is overrated (except in portraits, I guess).


PostPosted: Tue Dec 22, 2020 11:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
You might want to take a look at this Panagor 90mm f/2.8, a bit of a dark horse: http://forum.mflenses.com/first-shots-with-panagor-pmc-90mm-28-macro-lens-t50203.html . It's a macro lens that seems to also do very well for non-macro uses.


PostPosted: Wed Dec 23, 2020 1:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
invisible wrote:
You might want to take a look at this Panagor 90mm f/2.8, a bit of a dark horse: http://forum.mflenses.com/first-shots-with-panagor-pmc-90mm-28-macro-lens-t50203.html . It's a macro lens that seems to also do very well for non-macro uses.



Thank you Invisible. I never found this lens. It seems to be really a very good one.

Anyway I bought another good lens, a Voigtlander cosina apo 65/2 and can say that is Ok.


PostPosted: Wed Dec 23, 2020 3:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
The Tokina and Voigtlander 125mm APO are always showing up in "what macro lens should I get?" Or "what's the best Macro lens?" threads, along with the Zeiss 100/2 Marko and the Leica 100 APO, the new Voigtlander 65 & 110 should end up in many threads too.

Speaking of Voigtlander, I really hope they release a 28/2 APO sometime soon, it's one lens I've been missing, to go with the 50, 65, & 110, it would round out that set nicely.


PostPosted: Wed Dec 23, 2020 4:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
You make no mention of the intended camera.

Might I suggest a Voigtländer 3,5/90 APO in SLI or II iterations. Excellent all-around lens that you seek. Color is nicely corrected and very high-resolving.


PostPosted: Wed Dec 23, 2020 9:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
invisible wrote:
You might want to take a look at this Panagor 90mm f/2.8, a bit of a dark horse: http://forum.mflenses.com/first-shots-with-panagor-pmc-90mm-28-macro-lens-t50203.html . It's a macro lens that seems to also do very well for non-macro uses.


This is a 1:1 Macro with a double gauss design by Komine. It has a 990 degree focus throw. Not really all round (or too much so :p ). The Lens is most common in Vivitar I guess: https://www.pentaxforums.com/userreviews/vivitar-90mm-f2-8-macro.html It is OK but it's a pretty boring lens.


PostPosted: Wed Dec 23, 2020 2:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
D1N0 wrote:
invisible wrote:
You might want to take a look at this Panagor 90mm f/2.8, a bit of a dark horse: http://forum.mflenses.com/first-shots-with-panagor-pmc-90mm-28-macro-lens-t50203.html . It's a macro lens that seems to also do very well for non-macro uses.


This is a 1:1 Macro with a double gauss design by Komine. It has a 990 degree focus throw. Not really all round (or too much so :p ). The Lens is most common in Vivitar I guess: https://www.pentaxforums.com/userreviews/vivitar-90mm-f2-8-macro.html It is OK but it's a pretty boring lens.


Boring lens?
What does it mean?


PostPosted: Wed Dec 23, 2020 3:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
It doesn't do spectacular bokeh. Smooth enough but somehow not very creamy. Colours are a bit subdued. Here are some of my results with it (edited in lightroom)
https://www.flickr.com/photos/randomdump/albums/72157714463455422


PostPosted: Wed Dec 23, 2020 4:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
D1N0 wrote:
It doesn't do spectacular bokeh. Smooth enough but somehow not very creamy. Colours are a bit subdued. Here are some of my results with it (edited in lightroom)
https://www.flickr.com/photos/randomdump/albums/72157714463455422


I had this lens. It’s not bad, but not on par with the Tokina AT-X 90/2.5 macro. The Minolta AF 100/2.8 macro is about as good as the Tokina. You can find them cheap on Ebay from Japanese sellers, but you need an adapter with aperture control and you shouldn’t mind the thin focusing ring. It goes 1:1, which is an advantage over the Tokina.


PostPosted: Thu Dec 24, 2020 1:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
D1N0 wrote:
It doesn't do spectacular bokeh. Smooth enough but somehow not very creamy. Colours are a bit subdued. Here are some of my results with it (edited in lightroom)
https://www.flickr.com/photos/randomdump/albums/72157714463455422

I guess it's a matter of taste. I love the bokeh in your photos.


PostPosted: Thu Dec 24, 2020 12:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
caspert79 wrote:
D1N0 wrote:
It doesn't do spectacular bokeh. Smooth enough but somehow not very creamy. Colours are a bit subdued. Here are some of my results with it (edited in lightroom)
https://www.flickr.com/photos/randomdump/albums/72157714463455422


I had this lens. It’s not bad, but not on par with the Tokina AT-X 90/2.5 macro. The Minolta AF 100/2.8 macro is about as good as the Tokina. You can find them cheap on Ebay from Japanese sellers, but you need an adapter with aperture control and you shouldn’t mind the thin focusing ring. It goes 1:1, which is an advantage over the Tokina.


I have the Tokina and the voigtlander apo lanthar 65/2.
Both very sharp with good contrast. The voigtlander has less CA.


PostPosted: Sat Dec 26, 2020 8:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
D1N0 wrote:
It doesn't do spectacular bokeh. Smooth enough but somehow not very creamy. Colours are a bit subdued. Here are some of my results with it (edited in lightroom)
https://www.flickr.com/photos/randomdump/albums/72157714463455422

I may be in the minority here, but for the macro lens this is a good result.
They are usually overcorrected to death at these focus distances.


PostPosted: Sat Dec 26, 2020 9:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
aidaho wrote:
D1N0 wrote:
It doesn't do spectacular bokeh. Smooth enough but somehow not very creamy. Colours are a bit subdued. Here are some of my results with it (edited in lightroom)
https://www.flickr.com/photos/randomdump/albums/72157714463455422

I may be in the minority here, but for the macro lens this is a good result.
They are usually overcorrected to death at these focus distances.


It is not a bad lens. I just like the Tamron 52B better.


PostPosted: Sat Dec 26, 2020 8:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
D1N0 wrote:
aidaho wrote:
D1N0 wrote:
It doesn't do spectacular bokeh. Smooth enough but somehow not very creamy. Colours are a bit subdued. Here are some of my results with it (edited in lightroom)
https://www.flickr.com/photos/randomdump/albums/72157714463455422

I may be in the minority here, but for the macro lens this is a good result.
They are usually overcorrected to death at these focus distances.


It is not a bad lens. I just like the Tamron 52B better.


Took mine out for a walk today. Yes , it is a nice lens, and fairly compact.
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