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woodrim
Joined: 14 Jan 2010 Posts: 4060 Location: Charleston
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Posted: Sun Apr 08, 2018 3:49 pm Post subject: |
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woodrim wrote:
Not having experience with the Hanimex, I could only speculate - and with skepticism. Perhaps a bad copy or not from the same manufacturer.
A friend nearby purchased a Cambron 5.6/300 after I told him I was reasonably sure it was the same lens as Ohnar. It is the style where there is a limited aperture selection. Ohnar has that version too and I've also seen it with the Travenon name. After comparing images, his Cambron is the equal of my Ohnar. I have not been able to make any other direct comparisons with the other brands but will in coming weeks. I have a Super Danubia, which I will be receiving and believe to be the same as Ohnar.
It remains a mystery to me who actually made the lenses. Ohnar seems to have only been an accessory supplier with some few lenses as exceptions. _________________ Regards,
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kds315*
Joined: 12 Mar 2008 Posts: 16661 Location: Weinheim, Germany
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Posted: Sun Apr 08, 2018 5:33 pm Post subject: |
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kds315* wrote:
Found a good use for my 5.6/300mm CELESTRON - using a eyepiece adapter for birdwatching
for our Easter trip to Majorca, Spain to some wetlands near Alcudia. Very small, light and a high
magnification. _________________ Klaus - Admin
"S'il vient a point, me souviendra" [Thomas Bohier (1460-1523)]
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http://photographyoftheinvisibleworld.blogspot.com/ my UV BLOG
http://www.travelmeetsfood.com/blog Food + Travel BLOG
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X80QF f3.2/80mm
Hypergon f11/26mm
ELCAN UV f5.6/52mm
Zeiss UV-Planar f4/60mm
Zeiss UV-Planar f2/62mm
Lomo Уфар-12 f2.5/41mm
Lomo Зуфар-2 f4.0/350mm
Lomo ZIKAR-1A f1.2/100mm
Nikon UV Nikkor f4.5/105mm
Zeiss UV-Sonnar f4.3/105mm
CERCO UV-VIS-NIR f1.8/45mm
CERCO UV-VIS-NIR f4.1/94mm
CERCO UV-VIS-NIR f2.8/100mm
Steinheil Quarzobjektiv f1.8/50mm
Pentax Quartz Takumar f3.5/85mm
Carl Zeiss Jena UV-Objektiv f4/60mm
NYE OPTICAL Lyman-Alpha II f1.1/90mm
NYE OPTICAL Lyman-Alpha I f2.8/200mm
COASTAL OPTICS f4/60mm UV-VIS-IR Apo
COASTAL OPTICS f4.5/105mm UV-Micro-Apo
Pentax Ultra-Achromatic Takumar f4.5/85mm
Pentax Ultra-Achromatic Takumar f5.6/300mm
Rodenstock UV-Rodagon f5.6/60mm + 105mm + 150mm
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itsfozzy
Joined: 20 Oct 2014 Posts: 327 Location: Stoke-on-Trent UK
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Posted: Mon Apr 09, 2018 12:21 pm Post subject: |
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itsfozzy wrote:
Shot of the Waterhouses Cement works this morning with the little Chinon 300mm/5.6. The shot was always going to be low contrast due to the sun and mist, therefore it was always going to be very highly processed, but I'm still impressed with the detail it picked out. _________________ https://simonforsterphotographic.co.uk/
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kds315*
Joined: 12 Mar 2008 Posts: 16661 Location: Weinheim, Germany
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Posted: Mon Apr 09, 2018 1:14 pm Post subject: |
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kds315* wrote:
_________________ Klaus - Admin
"S'il vient a point, me souviendra" [Thomas Bohier (1460-1523)]
http://www.macrolenses.de for macro and special lens info
http://www.pbase.com/kds315/uv_photos for UV Images and lens/filter info
https://www.flickr.com/photos/kds315/albums my albums using various lenses
http://photographyoftheinvisibleworld.blogspot.com/ my UV BLOG
http://www.travelmeetsfood.com/blog Food + Travel BLOG
https://galeriafotografia.com Architecture + Drone photography
Currently most FAV lens(es):
X80QF f3.2/80mm
Hypergon f11/26mm
ELCAN UV f5.6/52mm
Zeiss UV-Planar f4/60mm
Zeiss UV-Planar f2/62mm
Lomo Уфар-12 f2.5/41mm
Lomo Зуфар-2 f4.0/350mm
Lomo ZIKAR-1A f1.2/100mm
Nikon UV Nikkor f4.5/105mm
Zeiss UV-Sonnar f4.3/105mm
CERCO UV-VIS-NIR f1.8/45mm
CERCO UV-VIS-NIR f4.1/94mm
CERCO UV-VIS-NIR f2.8/100mm
Steinheil Quarzobjektiv f1.8/50mm
Pentax Quartz Takumar f3.5/85mm
Carl Zeiss Jena UV-Objektiv f4/60mm
NYE OPTICAL Lyman-Alpha II f1.1/90mm
NYE OPTICAL Lyman-Alpha I f2.8/200mm
COASTAL OPTICS f4/60mm UV-VIS-IR Apo
COASTAL OPTICS f4.5/105mm UV-Micro-Apo
Pentax Ultra-Achromatic Takumar f4.5/85mm
Pentax Ultra-Achromatic Takumar f5.6/300mm
Rodenstock UV-Rodagon f5.6/60mm + 105mm + 150mm
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iangreenhalgh1
Joined: 18 Mar 2011 Posts: 15679
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Posted: Mon Apr 09, 2018 1:52 pm Post subject: |
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iangreenhalgh1 wrote:
That's beautiful. I think the best use of mirror lenses is long distance work like that where there are no oof areas and none of the horrible donut bokeh. _________________ I don't care who designed it, who made it or what country it comes from - I just enjoy using it! |
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itsfozzy
Joined: 20 Oct 2014 Posts: 327 Location: Stoke-on-Trent UK
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Posted: Mon Apr 09, 2018 1:56 pm Post subject: |
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itsfozzy wrote:
Thank you Klaus & Ian. This lens gave me a new problem to deal with; "dust spot donuts"! I had to make about 20 horseshoe shaped corrections with a spot healing brush... _________________ https://simonforsterphotographic.co.uk/
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woodrim
Joined: 14 Jan 2010 Posts: 4060 Location: Charleston
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Posted: Mon Apr 09, 2018 2:40 pm Post subject: |
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woodrim wrote:
itsfozzy wrote: |
Thank you Klaus & Ian. This lens gave me a new problem to deal with; "dust spot donuts"! I had to make about 20 horseshoe shaped corrections with a spot healing brush... |
Ha! Yes, mirrors are dust finders. Please do give the lens a better chance of showing colors and sharpness potential. _________________ Regards,
Woodrim |
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itsfozzy
Joined: 20 Oct 2014 Posts: 327 Location: Stoke-on-Trent UK
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Posted: Mon Apr 09, 2018 2:48 pm Post subject: |
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itsfozzy wrote:
woodrim wrote: |
itsfozzy wrote: |
Thank you Klaus & Ian. This lens gave me a new problem to deal with; "dust spot donuts"! I had to make about 20 horseshoe shaped corrections with a spot healing brush... |
Ha! Yes, mirrors are dust finders. Please do give the lens a better chance of showing colors and sharpness potential. |
If the colours come out to play, I'll give it a go! _________________ https://simonforsterphotographic.co.uk/
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My eBay Shop http://stores.ebay.co.uk/itsfozzy-Photography
Large Format Photography Podcast
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My Flickr Albums (more than 150 lens sample shots) https://www.flickr.com/photos/125323761@N07/albums
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iangreenhalgh1
Joined: 18 Mar 2011 Posts: 15679
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Posted: Mon Apr 09, 2018 3:53 pm Post subject: |
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iangreenhalgh1 wrote:
I wouldn't worry too much about colours, that BW shot is far better than anything else in this thread. _________________ I don't care who designed it, who made it or what country it comes from - I just enjoy using it! |
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itsfozzy
Joined: 20 Oct 2014 Posts: 327 Location: Stoke-on-Trent UK
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Posted: Mon Apr 09, 2018 8:12 pm Post subject: |
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itsfozzy wrote:
I found a colour shot from this morning with the Chinon. ISO 640, edited in LR, just Whites & Blacks, no added contrast, Sony A7 II. Keen eyes will see that Andrew is using a helicoid adapter to reduce the MFD of the Canon 50/1.4 LTM39.
_________________ https://simonforsterphotographic.co.uk/
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itsfozzy
Joined: 20 Oct 2014 Posts: 327 Location: Stoke-on-Trent UK
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Posted: Mon Apr 09, 2018 8:19 pm Post subject: |
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itsfozzy wrote:
This was the shot he took with the Canon, you will all be pleased to know that I scolded him for burning out the highlights in the shot, I then had to retract the scolding when my version of the shot also had burnt out highlights... _________________ https://simonforsterphotographic.co.uk/
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woodrim
Joined: 14 Jan 2010 Posts: 4060 Location: Charleston
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Posted: Mon Apr 09, 2018 8:37 pm Post subject: |
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woodrim wrote:
Thanks, Simon. The lens looks quite decent.I've found that the colors and contrast are very good as long as the lens is shaded from the sun. _________________ Regards,
Woodrim |
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itsfozzy
Joined: 20 Oct 2014 Posts: 327 Location: Stoke-on-Trent UK
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Posted: Mon Apr 09, 2018 8:39 pm Post subject: |
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itsfozzy wrote:
woodrim wrote: |
Thanks, Simon. The lens looks quite decent.I've found that the colors and contrast are very good as long as the lens is shaded from the sun. |
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Large Format Photography Podcast
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Antoine
Joined: 08 Jan 2016 Posts: 298 Location: London
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Posted: Fri Apr 13, 2018 8:32 am Post subject: |
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Antoine wrote:
woodrim wrote: |
Antoine wrote: |
I have a Elicar 300 mm 5.6 and thought it was probably a rebranding from another RF 300mm like the Makinon. Does anybody know about this lens provenance? |
It is very difficult to find good history on these lenses but you are right that many, if not all, are branded other than manufacture name. I have looked at many of the 300mm versions and observed a few things. The Ohnar also had a version with aperture selection that really accomplished nothing good other than dimming. I saw a Cambron model, with aperture selection, for sale and noted the similarities to the Ohnar. I directed a friend to it, he purchased, and sure enough, it is basically the same lens and equal to my Onar in IQ. There is an assortment of other brands that I believe are the same as the Ohnar.
An important distinction between the Ohnar-like versions and the Makinon is the distance at infinity. The numbers just prior to infinity on the Makinon are 50/15 feet/meter. The Ohnar and its like are 100/30. I suspect that relates to both the MFD of the Makinon and the sensitive focusing. |
The Elicar says 100 feet 30 m, 50 feet 15 m, 30 feet 10 meter, down to 8 f 2.5 m so I suppose it is a bit Ohnar like/
Focusing rotates on for about 240 degrees _________________ Antoine
Sony A6000 APS-C and Sony A7 Rii
Minolta Fisheye MD Rokkor 7.5 mm f4, Fisheye MD 16 f2.8 MD R 17mm f4, MD R 20mm f2.8, MC VFC & MDIII 24mm f2.8, MD 28mm f2.0 &3.5, MD II 35mm 1.8, MD 45mm f2.0, MD 50mm f 1.2 & MD I f1.4, MC PG 58mm 1.2, MD 85mm f2.0, MD R 85mm f2.8 Varisoft, MC 85mm f1.7 MD R 100mm f2.5, MD R 100mm f4.0 macro, MD III 135mm f2.8, MD R 200mm f2.8 & 4.0, RF 250mm f5.6, MD 300mm f4.5, MD APO 400 mm f5.6, RF 500mm f8.0, RF 800mm f8.0 *2 300-s and 300-l
100 mm f4 macro bellows (5/4)
Vivitar 17mm f3.5, Elicar 300mm mirror f5.6, Zhongi turbo ii
Sigma 16mm f 2.8 fish eye
Zooms:24-50 mm f4, 35-70 mm f3.5 macro, 28-85mm f3.5-4.5, 50-135 f 3.5, 70-210 f4 and MD APO 100-500 mm f8 |
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woodrim
Joined: 14 Jan 2010 Posts: 4060 Location: Charleston
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Posted: Sun Apr 15, 2018 10:47 pm Post subject: |
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woodrim wrote:
I'm going to start a sister thread about 500mm mirror lenses. I already have a Maksutov thread but will make this one about all 500mm mirrors. Since this 300mm thread has included some 500mm examples, it will hopefully be useful. I'll have three 500mm lenses to contribute to the thread. _________________ Regards,
Woodrim |
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3dpan
Joined: 05 Nov 2017 Posts: 65 Location: New Zealand
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Posted: Sun Apr 15, 2018 10:58 pm Post subject: |
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3dpan
Joined: 05 Nov 2017 Posts: 65 Location: New Zealand
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Posted: Sun Apr 15, 2018 11:02 pm Post subject: |
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3dpan wrote:
I have four 500mm mirror lenses, Zeiss Mirotar, Olympus, Tokina, and Rubinar.
A good excuse to dust of the cobwebs. |
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woodrim
Joined: 14 Jan 2010 Posts: 4060 Location: Charleston
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Posted: Sun Apr 15, 2018 11:23 pm Post subject: |
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woodrim wrote:
Here are some of my most recent Ohnar 300mm images.
_________________ Regards,
Woodrim |
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3dpan
Joined: 05 Nov 2017 Posts: 65 Location: New Zealand
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Posted: Mon Apr 16, 2018 12:34 am Post subject: |
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3dpan wrote:
Makes me wish I had an Ohnar, and your ability. |
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itsfozzy
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iangreenhalgh1
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Posted: Mon Apr 16, 2018 11:05 am Post subject: |
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iangreenhalgh1 wrote:
Looks pretty poor to me, lacking contrast and vibrancy and the bokeh is really nasty in some shots, that last one of the Racoon especially, it looks muddy, flat and the bokeh is very nervous. _________________ I don't care who designed it, who made it or what country it comes from - I just enjoy using it! |
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Oldhand
Joined: 01 Apr 2013 Posts: 6005 Location: Mid North Coast NSW - Australia
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Posted: Mon Apr 16, 2018 11:14 am Post subject: |
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Oldhand wrote:
iangreenhalgh1 wrote: |
Looks pretty poor to me, lacking contrast and vibrancy and the bokeh is really nasty in some shots, that last one of the Racoon especially, it looks muddy, flat and the bokeh is very nervous. |
Ian, did you look at image three - yes it has the characteristic donuts - as from any mirror lens, but the sharpness, contrast and colour saturation are wonderful.
Mirror lenses are not all things in all situations and sometimes they may limp, but when they do perform well the results are excellent.
This one has real potential I think
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iangreenhalgh1
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Posted: Mon Apr 16, 2018 12:09 pm Post subject: |
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iangreenhalgh1 wrote:
Three looks okay, but it's in a high contrast lighting situation, even a poor lens can do well when the light is right.. Five is in flatter, duller light and there the lens doesn't perform well. _________________ I don't care who designed it, who made it or what country it comes from - I just enjoy using it! |
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3dpan
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Posted: Mon Apr 16, 2018 12:24 pm Post subject: |
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3dpan wrote:
I think the racoon pic is superb, it portrays aptly the soft lighting one would expect on the forest floor. |
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woodrim
Joined: 14 Jan 2010 Posts: 4060 Location: Charleston
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Posted: Mon May 28, 2018 12:04 am Post subject: |
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woodrim wrote:
My first images from Super Danubia 5.6/300, which I believe to be the same lens as Ohnar.
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Woodrim |
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