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LucisPictor
Joined: 26 Feb 2007 Posts: 17633 Location: Oberhessen, Germany / Maidstone ('95-'96)
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Posted: Tue Feb 10, 2009 1:44 pm Post subject: Zeiss Distagon T* 2.8/25 ZF - some shots |
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LucisPictor wrote:
Mounted to a Nikon D100...
...to a Canon EOS 40D...
...to a Nikon EM...
...and to a Canon EOS 50e.
When you buy a lens today, you often get decent glas in a plastic body which is durable but not very "elegant".
Zeiss has gone another way: they put new lenses on the market without AF but with a great built and gorgeous looks.
One of these lenses is the Distagon T* 2.8/25 ZF .
The amazing first impression is confirmed by a fantastic handling, a velvety focus ring and a precise internal mechanism. Using this lens is a pleasure. I sometimes was just playing around with it without even having it on a cam!
It might be that some pros miss the waterproofing of some Canon L lenses, but that's not what you buy a Zeiss for. It's not a "Jeep", it's a de-luxe sedan.
Performance:
A lens would be a bad one if was only beautiful. A lens also needs to perform well, esp. when this lens bears the name "Zeiss".
The traditionally warm setup of Zeiss lenses can be found in this Distagon as well, but not to an unpleasant extent. The colours which are produced are almost neutral with a slight warm touch - very nice and subjectively enrichening colour density.
The coating seems to be excellent. The lens needs to be needled to show lens flares at all. The exactly fitting hood also helps.
Bokeh is very nice, too, esp. if we consider that we are talking about a superwide lens.
This Distagon 2.8/25 offers a fantastic performance and can be used wide open without any restrictions. There are some CAs visible in the corners at 100% but these can be removed pretty easily with the right software.
Other aberrations are simply not visible outside the lab.
Sharpness lives up to its legend. I constantly had the impression that the lens resolves higher than any film or sensor I used it with. Distorsion control is also amazing - remember we are talking wide here!
On a fullframe digital or a 35mm film cam this lens is overwhelming, on a crop sensor it might generate a "problem": with an equivalent of 38 to 40mm it is neither fish nor fowl. But then, exactly this uncommon angle can create new challenges for the photographer. And if you can accept this dare with such a high-level lens in your hands, it pehaps makes you experiece the genuine photographic excitement again!
A definite recommendation!
From left: Tamron 2.5/24 BBAR MC 01B - Carl Zeiss Distagon T* 2.8/25 ZF - Nikkor-N.C Auto 2.8/24
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Schnauzer
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Posted: Tue Feb 10, 2009 1:52 pm Post subject: |
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Schnauzer wrote:
It looks new. Its also a nice looking lense. I like lenses with some heft to them, this looks like it does. If it works as good as it looks you have a winner. Did the hood come with it? _________________ Ron |
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koji
Joined: 21 Jul 2008 Posts: 2106 Location: Hiroshima, Japan
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Posted: Tue Feb 10, 2009 2:10 pm Post subject: |
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koji wrote:
Schnauzer wrote: |
It looks new. Its also a nice looking lense. I like lenses with some heft to them, this looks like it does. If it works as good as it looks you have a winner. Did the hood come with it? |
Yes. _________________ Our Home Page has 18,200 photos in 575 directories today.
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Schnauzer
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Posted: Tue Feb 10, 2009 2:39 pm Post subject: |
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Schnauzer wrote:
I guess I wasn't thinking. You bought a new Zeiss. Wow!!!! _________________ Ron |
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LucisPictor
Joined: 26 Feb 2007 Posts: 17633 Location: Oberhessen, Germany / Maidstone ('95-'96)
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Posted: Tue Feb 10, 2009 4:06 pm Post subject: |
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LucisPictor wrote:
Schnauzer wrote: |
I guess I wasn't thinking. You bought a new Zeiss. Wow!!!! |
It's another test lens from Zeiss, unfortunately not mine.
Keith G wrote: |
How would you sum it up - OK at least, I would presume??
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Report added. _________________ Personal forum activity on pause every now and again (due to job obligations)!
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Orio
Joined: 24 Feb 2007 Posts: 29545 Location: West Emilia
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Posted: Tue Feb 10, 2009 4:15 pm Post subject: |
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Orio wrote:
Carsten, you are very lucky to have the chance to test all these lenses! I am really curious about the performance because I read that Zeiss has furtherly improved over the already excellent Contax incarnation of this lens.
I seem to remember you were going to review the Distagon 18 also?? _________________ Orio, Administrator
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Orio
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Posted: Tue Feb 10, 2009 4:18 pm Post subject: |
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Orio wrote:
Any image samples? _________________ Orio, Administrator
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LucisPictor
Joined: 26 Feb 2007 Posts: 17633 Location: Oberhessen, Germany / Maidstone ('95-'96)
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Posted: Tue Feb 10, 2009 4:34 pm Post subject: |
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LucisPictor wrote:
Orio wrote: |
Any image samples? |
Of course. But I need some more time and I need to have the film processed.
Orio wrote: |
I seem to remember you were going to review the Distagon 18 also?? |
http://forum.mflenses.com/zeiss-distagon-t-3-5-18-zf-a-short-report-t14511.html _________________ Personal forum activity on pause every now and again (due to job obligations)!
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koji
Joined: 21 Jul 2008 Posts: 2106 Location: Hiroshima, Japan
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Posted: Tue Feb 10, 2009 7:22 pm Post subject: |
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koji wrote:
Before you can see his samples, endure these not so good samples for a while.
Some samples shots by Distagon 2.8/25 ZF mostly chosen fresh, ie. not from my HP page.
with FM2n + Fuji Reala in Japan
Battle ship Yamato's anchor (I think it was a spare.)
at frea market
with F6 + Fuji RDPIII
with 5D
Zeiss colour!
bottom part trimmed, very sharp
less ghost resistance than Distagon 2/35ZF
Corner looks soft due to field curvature, this is @f11
with D700
very close object less than 20cm
distortion is hardly noticeable
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Attila
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Posted: Tue Feb 10, 2009 7:25 pm Post subject: |
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Attila wrote:
Pretty amazing!! _________________ -------------------------------
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koji
Joined: 21 Jul 2008 Posts: 2106 Location: Hiroshima, Japan
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Posted: Tue Feb 10, 2009 7:47 pm Post subject: |
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koji wrote:
A few more.
Horse-chestnut tree flower
? (it is not a purple sand cherry tree)
Petals from crab-apple tree
home made mango pudding (I like food shot!)
Apple tree flower (nice colour)
without our family dog, test wont finish
All were shot with 5D. _________________ Our Home Page has 18,200 photos in 575 directories today.
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kds315*
Joined: 12 Mar 2008 Posts: 16641 Location: Weinheim, Germany
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Posted: Tue Feb 10, 2009 8:01 pm Post subject: |
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kds315* wrote:
Truely amazing shots using an amazing lens! Some Zeiss guy told me that the 25mm is the best of the series... _________________ Klaus - Admin
"S'il vient a point, me souviendra" [Thomas Bohier (1460-1523)]
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X80QF f3.2/80mm
Hypergon f11/26mm
ELCAN UV f5.6/52mm
Zeiss UV-Planar f4/60mm
Zeiss UV-Planar f2/62mm
Lomo Уфар-12 f2.5/41mm
Lomo Зуфар-2 f4.0/350mm
Lomo ZIKAR-1A f1.2/100mm
Nikon UV Nikkor f4.5/105mm
Zeiss UV-Sonnar f4.3/105mm
CERCO UV-VIS-NIR f1.8/45mm
CERCO UV-VIS-NIR f4.1/94mm
CERCO UV-VIS-NIR f2.8/100mm
Steinheil Quarzobjektiv f1.8/50mm
Pentax Quartz Takumar f3.5/85mm
Carl Zeiss Jena UV-Objektiv f4/60mm
NYE OPTICAL Lyman-Alpha II f1.1/90mm
NYE OPTICAL Lyman-Alpha I f2.8/200mm
COASTAL OPTICS f4/60mm UV-VIS-IR Apo
COASTAL OPTICS f4.5/105mm UV-Micro-Apo
Pentax Ultra-Achromatic Takumar f4.5/85mm
Pentax Ultra-Achromatic Takumar f5.6/300mm
Rodenstock UV-Rodagon f5.6/60mm + 105mm + 150mm
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koji
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Posted: Tue Feb 10, 2009 8:10 pm Post subject: |
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koji wrote:
Hi Klaus,
Are you saying this Distagon 2.8/25mm ZF or Biogon 2.8/25mm ZM?
The later one is indeed a super lens IMHO, though my opinion does not count much.
But pictures tell me. _________________ Our Home Page has 18,200 photos in 575 directories today.
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no-X
Joined: 19 Jul 2008 Posts: 2495 Location: Budejky, Czech Republic
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Posted: Tue Feb 10, 2009 8:21 pm Post subject: |
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no-X wrote:
kds315* wrote: |
Truely amazing shots using an amazing lens! Some Zeiss guy told me that the 25mm is the best of the series... |
Thats interesting. Because I have this lens and I was told by some people, that 28/2.8 is better and the best one of this serie is 35/2... I'd like to believe to everybody, but these statemens are contradictory _________________ (almost) complete list of Helios lenses |
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LucisPictor
Joined: 26 Feb 2007 Posts: 17633 Location: Oberhessen, Germany / Maidstone ('95-'96)
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Posted: Tue Feb 10, 2009 8:32 pm Post subject: |
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LucisPictor wrote:
Thanks very much, koji, for these great shots!
The church is truely amazing!
The 25 the best of the bunch?
So far I think the Planar 1.4/85 is better. Well... I have to see some more shots with the Distagon. _________________ Personal forum activity on pause every now and again (due to job obligations)!
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koji
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Posted: Tue Feb 10, 2009 9:15 pm Post subject: |
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koji wrote:
No, Carsten I meant that Biogon 2.8/25mm ZM lens is a superb lens.
Of course Distagon 2.8/25 ZF is a nice lens too, among ZF's
Makro-Planars are so far the best bunch I think. But I like
Distagon 2/35ZF very much, though I have not used 18 and 28mm ZFs.
If lucky I can get a Distagon 2.8/21 ZF next month in Tokyo,
if not I will get Distagon 2/28 ZF instead. But my personal pick
will be Distagon 4/18 ZM lens for my rangefinder cameras.
However I am more and more using normal range lenses these days,
so I am content with not so wide lens.
And a few more...all shot by D700
Vertical shot
Close range ability is its strength
Many chiefs & few indians
Fire engine (I did not know "fire" is a mirror image until I shot this, your car's back-mirror can read right!)
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LucisPictor
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Posted: Wed Feb 11, 2009 2:19 pm Post subject: |
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LucisPictor wrote:
Koji, your lens collection is simply overwhelming!! _________________ Personal forum activity on pause every now and again (due to job obligations)!
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koji
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Posted: Wed Feb 11, 2009 2:45 pm Post subject: |
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koji wrote:
Carsten, my photo skill is still underwhelming thou. _________________ Our Home Page has 18,200 photos in 575 directories today.
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no-X
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Posted: Wed Feb 11, 2009 3:46 pm Post subject: |
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no-X wrote:
If I could change anything on Distagon T* 25/2.8, it would be:
1. lower CA (at the expense of central resolution if necessary)
2. better accessible aperture ring
3. A/M switch which would doesn't go so easy (you can switch it accidentally) _________________ (almost) complete list of Helios lenses |
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LucisPictor
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Posted: Wed Feb 11, 2009 4:34 pm Post subject: |
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LucisPictor wrote:
Some shots from today. Finally, after some weeks of bad weather, there was sun!
Very nice for landscapes!
Not bad for cloes-ups either.
Distorsion control is pretty good for a 25mm lens.
And then I tried to provoke some flares. That was not easy!
No!
Ah, yes! There is one. _________________ Personal forum activity on pause every now and again (due to job obligations)!
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Schnauzer
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Posted: Wed Feb 11, 2009 5:02 pm Post subject: |
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Schnauzer wrote:
Very nice both Carsten and Koji. _________________ Ron |
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