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cooltouch
Joined: 15 Jan 2009 Posts: 9097 Location: Houston, Texas
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Posted: Mon Jul 19, 2010 5:07 pm Post subject: Yashica Electro 35 GSN - Opinions? |
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cooltouch wrote:
This is gonna sound kinda strange maybe.
A couple weeks ago, I picked up a camera bag at a thrift store for cheap. It had a couple of lenses, a small flash and a winder. Also had a couple of instruction manuals. One was for a Yashica Electro 35 GSN. I'm thinking this must have been one of the best selling 35mm rangefinders of all time, due to its commonality. And it must have been built reasonably well for so many of them to have survived this long.
So, here I am with this instruction manual and no camera, and I'm getting the urge to bid on a camera on eBay so's I can have a camera to go along with the instruction manual. Does that sound a little strange? Maybe just an excuse to feed my GAS?
So anyway, I'm wondering what the camera is like to use. With its f/1.7 lens, how would you say it compares, for example, to the Canon QL17 GIII?
What about batteries? The manual shows a long 5.6v mercury battery. Are there modern replacements, and do they have the proper voltage? I'm thinking I could stack four 1.4v 675 hearing aid batteries and fit them if there's room. At least the voltage works out: 1.4 x4 = 5.6 exactly. _________________ Michael
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Screamin Scott
Joined: 13 Oct 2007 Posts: 1014 Location: Dallas, Georgia USA
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Posted: Mon Jul 19, 2010 5:12 pm Post subject: |
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Screamin Scott wrote:
I've got one...It's quite a bit larger & heavier than the Canon Ql17 GIII...The optics are quite sharp however....You can get batteries from the yashicaguy on eBay...I prefer my Yashica Lynx 14 due to it's F1.4 lens... _________________ Cameras-Nikon D300, D7100,D610,FE2,FTN ,FT2,N90s, Olympus Pen EP-3 & Olympus OM-D E-M10
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cooltouch
Joined: 15 Jan 2009 Posts: 9097 Location: Houston, Texas
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Posted: Mon Jul 19, 2010 6:00 pm Post subject: |
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cooltouch wrote:
Yeah, the Lynx 14 is another Yashica Rangefinder I've been wondering about. Fish4570's got a thread going right now -- "work boat" -- that shows off the Lynx 14's capabilities pretty well.
How would you rate the lens quality between the two? _________________ Michael
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Screamin Scott
Joined: 13 Oct 2007 Posts: 1014 Location: Dallas, Georgia USA
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Posted: Tue Jul 20, 2010 12:19 am Post subject: |
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Screamin Scott wrote:
Pretty comparable...I like the Lynx better not only because of the lens speed but also because of manual mode. What I don't like about the Lynx is the aperture stops don't click into place... _________________ Cameras-Nikon D300, D7100,D610,FE2,FTN ,FT2,N90s, Olympus Pen EP-3 & Olympus OM-D E-M10
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cooltouch
Joined: 15 Jan 2009 Posts: 9097 Location: Houston, Texas
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Posted: Tue Jul 20, 2010 1:39 am Post subject: |
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cooltouch wrote:
Aha, well, I think I'd give the nod to the Lynx too, since it has a manual mode.
I've owned a couple Canon QL17 GIIIs over the years, sold the last one probably 15 years ago. And I've always kinda missed it. So, now I'm wondering, and this question is posed to anyone who's had a chance to use the QL17 or either of the above mentioned Yashicas -- which of the three do you prefer, and why? Or is there another that you prefer? I found a thread at flickr discussing which folks prefered, the QL17 or the Yashica Electro 35, and almost every one of the respondents gave preference to the Canon. One guy mentioned a Konica S2 as being another one to consider.
For me, I'd definitely lean toward a camera that has manual mode. I already have an aperture priority rangefinder in my Oly XA. The camera should also have a leaf shutter and a hot shoe, and preferably external flash pc x-sync contacts as well.
Still when all's said and done, I think I'm gonna look for a clean but cheap Electro 35, just so I can have a camera to keep my Electro instruction manual company. _________________ Michael
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LucisPictor
Joined: 26 Feb 2007 Posts: 17633 Location: Oberhessen, Germany / Maidstone ('95-'96)
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Posted: Tue Jul 20, 2010 9:40 am Post subject: |
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LucisPictor wrote:
Thanks to Andy, I've got an Electro 35 GS and honestly it is my favourite RF cam. I like this cam so much that I have sold several other really good RFs (such as Minolta HiMatic E and F, Konica S3, Oly 35RC ...).
I only have kept the Electro 35GS my Rollei 35XF and my FED3. _________________ Personal forum activity on pause every now and again (due to job obligations)!
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Banjo
Joined: 25 Jun 2009 Posts: 75 Location: Oz (Near Adelaide)
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Posted: Wed Jul 21, 2010 6:42 am Post subject: Re: Yashica Electro 35 GSN - Opinions? |
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Banjo wrote:
cooltouch wrote: |
What about batteries? The manual shows a long 5.6v mercury battery. Are there modern replacements, and do they have the proper voltage? I'm thinking I could stack four 1.4v 675 hearing aid batteries and fit them if there's room. At least the voltage works out: 1.4 x4 = 5.6 exactly. |
No need to stack: there is an exact fitting battery off the shelf, with the right voltage (I know, I found them). (If you read the manual, you will see that the exposure/operation of the camera is not voltage sensitive but will work OK within a voltage range.)
I don't have the info on me right now, but I will get back with it. |
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Attila
Joined: 24 Feb 2007 Posts: 57849 Location: Hungary
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Posted: Wed Jul 21, 2010 7:59 am Post subject: |
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Attila wrote:
I have it too, quality camera. _________________ -------------------------------
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fish4570
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Posted: Wed Jul 21, 2010 11:59 am Post subject: |
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fish4570 wrote:
Still, I'd go manual ... _________________ Paul
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Banjo
Joined: 25 Jun 2009 Posts: 75 Location: Oz (Near Adelaide)
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Posted: Thu Jul 22, 2010 1:38 am Post subject: Re: Yashica Electro 35 GSN - Opinions? |
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Banjo wrote:
cooltouch wrote: |
...What about batteries? The manual shows a long 5.6v mercury battery. Are there modern replacements, and do they have the proper voltage? ... |
This one fits the space exactly and does the job perfectly:
Exell Photo 6v alkaline A32PX (which I am currently using, and it works.
Also, I understand there is (but I haven't used it) a Duracell PX32A
As I said -earlier- the electronics in this camera are not voltage fussy, so the small discrepancy betwee a 5.6v and the 6v is irrelevant. |
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cooltouch
Joined: 15 Jan 2009 Posts: 9097 Location: Houston, Texas
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Posted: Thu Jul 22, 2010 1:50 am Post subject: |
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cooltouch wrote:
Thanks for the battery info, Banjo.
Hey Fish4570, I'm with you all the way. But the Electro 35 GSN can be found cheap enough where I can probably afford it, so my instruction manual will have been reunited, as well as a cool manual RF. I'll have to look into the Lynx more. Does the meter work in manual mode? It's been too long since I owned a QL17, but I vaguely remember the meter not functioning in manual. _________________ Michael
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martinsmith99
Joined: 31 Aug 2008 Posts: 6943 Location: S Glos, UK
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Posted: Thu Jul 22, 2010 8:17 pm Post subject: |
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martinsmith99 wrote:
cooltouch wrote: |
Thanks for the battery info, Banjo.
Hey Fish4570, I'm with you all the way. But the Electro 35 GSN can be found cheap enough where I can probably afford it, so my instruction manual will have been reunited, as well as a cool manual RF. I'll have to look into the Lynx more. Does the meter work in manual mode? It's been too long since I owned a QL17, but I vaguely remember the meter not functioning in manual. |
Correct - No meter in manual mode. _________________ Casual attendance these days |
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symphonic
Joined: 23 May 2010 Posts: 550 Location: SE Europe, Croatia
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Posted: Wed Oct 20, 2010 1:23 pm Post subject: |
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symphonic wrote:
OK, just got this camera (Yashica GS) and with it being a first film camera I use in my life, I'm puzzled by some things.
I put the film inside, rewind it a couple of times but the shutter counter does not go to number 1... Does that mean I put the film incorrectly? I put a new battery on and everything seems to work as it should.. _________________ Toni,
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Nesster
Joined: 24 Apr 2008 Posts: 5883 Location: NJ, USA
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Posted: Wed Oct 20, 2010 2:35 pm Post subject: |
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Nesster wrote:
Most likely the film end didn't catch on the film spool - you should see the rewind crank turn when you advance film.
Re. alternates to the Yashica - I found a Konica Auto S-2 that I've ended up liking better than a GSN - I posted something about the comparison here somewhere.... I think The Konica does shutter priority auto and manual metering; about the only catch is the battery voltage issue. I'm rating ASA 400 film at 100 to compensate, but there's an easy diode fix. _________________ -Jussi
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symphonic
Joined: 23 May 2010 Posts: 550 Location: SE Europe, Croatia
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Posted: Wed Oct 20, 2010 2:53 pm Post subject: |
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symphonic wrote:
Nesster wrote: |
Most likely the film end didn't catch on the film spool - you should see the rewind crank turn when you advance film.
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Thanks, it does turn counter-clockwise which means the film is seated properly (that's what it says in the online manual). I thought I'd open the doors to check the film, but I'll ruin it then... I guess the shutter counter is broken.
(When I move the advance lever to the rightmost position, the 36 (last number) goes a bit out of sight, but as soon as I let go of the advance lever, it goes back to were it was.) _________________ Toni,
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Nesster
Joined: 24 Apr 2008 Posts: 5883 Location: NJ, USA
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Posted: Wed Oct 20, 2010 3:14 pm Post subject: |
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Nesster wrote:
the auto set usually is done via a prong built into the back that goes into a slot in the camera body. If it or the back is slightly bent, it may not engage the mechanism fully - and therefore the counter keeps going back to 1. Or, it could be (more) simply just broken _________________ -Jussi
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