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Karhallarn
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Posted: Tue Apr 16, 2013 4:09 pm Post subject: Would a deep Hood do the trick? |
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Karhallarn wrote:
Hi Guys!
I shot some birds with my Soligor 200mm f2.8 and I'm quiet satisfied with the sharpness of the images but they are overly dull. Is a deep lenshood going to change this or do you think that it is an internal reflection in the lens?
I'm not sure?!?
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iangreenhalgh1
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Posted: Tue Apr 16, 2013 4:12 pm Post subject: |
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iangreenhalgh1 wrote:
Not sure if a hood would help, but looks to me like PP would fix the contrast and saturation. Seems like a good lens to me, better than most third party long lenses I've tried. _________________ I don't care who designed it, who made it or what country it comes from - I just enjoy using it! |
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luisalegria
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Posted: Tue Apr 16, 2013 4:14 pm Post subject: |
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luisalegria wrote:
It might. It can't hurt.
If this is the 1970's lens I have seen some decent results from it. _________________ I like Pentax DSLR's, Exaktas, M42 bodies of all kinds, strange and cheap Japanese lenses, and am dabbling in medium format/Speed Graphic work. |
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Attila
Joined: 24 Feb 2007 Posts: 57849 Location: Hungary
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Posted: Tue Apr 16, 2013 4:24 pm Post subject: |
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Attila wrote:
PP also not hurt usually contrast can fix pretty well _________________ -------------------------------
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Attila
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Posted: Tue Apr 16, 2013 4:29 pm Post subject: |
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Attila wrote:
#1 auto contras+color+sharpen more 30%
#2 auto contrast in acdsee
It has batch processing you can do with a few click on all images.
#1
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nurkov
Joined: 21 Feb 2013 Posts: 711 Location: United Kingdom
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Posted: Tue Apr 16, 2013 4:48 pm Post subject: |
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nurkov wrote:
nothing wrong with those just a bit of PP required as we saw from the example. _________________ http://www.flickr.com/photos/34787419@N08/
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Karhallarn
Joined: 26 May 2009 Posts: 577
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Posted: Tue Apr 16, 2013 5:18 pm Post subject: |
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Karhallarn wrote:
Done some PP! I originally posted without pp, to show you all what I mean.
What do you think?
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uddhava
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Posted: Tue Apr 16, 2013 6:29 pm Post subject: |
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uddhava wrote:
Attila wrote: |
#1 auto contras+color+sharpen more 30%
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Nice result! Maybe I will try this formula. Thanks for sharing.
Decent lens it seems. |
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philslizzy
Joined: 07 Aug 2012 Posts: 4748 Location: Cheshire, England
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Posted: Tue Apr 16, 2013 6:45 pm Post subject: |
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philslizzy wrote:
I think the cause of it may be a little flare as you are shooting into a bright white sky. Yes bang up the contrast a little in PP or perhaps underexpose about -0.3 a stop. _________________ Hero in the 'messin-with-cameras-for-the-hell-of-it department'. Official. |
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Attila
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Posted: Tue Apr 16, 2013 8:00 pm Post subject: |
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Attila wrote:
philslizzy wrote: |
I think the cause of it may be a little flare as you are shooting into a bright white sky. Yes bang up the contrast a little in PP or perhaps underexpose about -0.3 a stop. |
Underexpose one of the trick what I use in similar shooting env, or even better set light meter to center mode. _________________ -------------------------------
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frenched
Joined: 16 Feb 2013 Posts: 395 Location: MD USA
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Posted: Tue Apr 16, 2013 10:38 pm Post subject: |
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frenched wrote:
Nothing is in focus so looks like camera shake and pp won't help. What were your camera settings? Hand-held? |
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fuzzywuzzy
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Posted: Tue Apr 16, 2013 11:01 pm Post subject: |
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fuzzywuzzy wrote:
Improvise a hood with some black cardboard, tape it on, and try some shots with and without.
I did a similar test with a long cardboard hood for my 500mm mirror lens and saw a noticeable improvement, so I built myself a more permanent hood. _________________ I welcome C&C, editing my pics and reposting them on the forum is fine.
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drjs
Joined: 25 Feb 2013 Posts: 485 Location: USA
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Posted: Wed Apr 17, 2013 12:13 am Post subject: |
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drjs wrote:
Here is my version, processed in light room, increased contrast, removed noise, sharpened, all that good stuff.
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Attila
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Posted: Wed Apr 17, 2013 12:27 am Post subject: |
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Attila wrote:
fuzzywuzzy wrote: |
Improvise a hood with some black cardboard, tape it on, and try some shots with and without.
I did a similar test with a long cardboard hood for my 500mm mirror lens and saw a noticeable improvement, so I built myself a more permanent hood. |
+1 good hint before you spend any money on hood. _________________ -------------------------------
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IAZA
Joined: 16 Apr 2010 Posts: 2587 Location: Indonesia
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Posted: Wed Apr 17, 2013 2:00 am Post subject: |
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IAZA wrote:
There's a reason why hood is produced. to eliminate such situation
We know some lenses are sold included it's original hood.
I'm pretty sure the lens needs hood.
If we are talking about zeiss T*, maybe hood is not needed. IMHO _________________ nex5, Olympus EPM1, yashica half 14, Canon eos 650 want to see samples of mine? please click My lenses
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Karhallarn
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Posted: Wed Apr 17, 2013 5:34 am Post subject: |
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Karhallarn wrote:
Thanks for all the tips!
I did overexpose a little to get the bird exposed and not the sky.
I shoot manually and this was without a tripod. Both shot at 1/320 sec, ISO 320 and I think f4.
The focus seems nearly Spoton for me, maybe slightly off in the first picture. Focusing with the NX11 and manual glas is not the easiest trick...
I think, I will try the tip with the cardboard. The "supplied" Hood is a build in one, so it is relatively short compared to most external ones!
Cheers,
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bernhardas
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Posted: Wed Apr 17, 2013 9:15 am Post subject: |
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bernhardas wrote:
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peterqd
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Posted: Wed Apr 17, 2013 2:30 pm Post subject: |
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peterqd wrote:
Also try the deep hood at all aperture settings. I had a Jupiter-21M where the flare became worse as the aperture became smaller. The general view was that was due to internal reflections. _________________ Peter - Moderator |
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frenched
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Posted: Thu Apr 18, 2013 2:46 am Post subject: |
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frenched wrote:
Karhallarn wrote: |
I shoot manually and this was without a tripod. Both shot at 1/320 sec, ISO 320 and I think f4. |
In these particular shots there is obvious camera shake affecting focus and too much backlighting robbing detail so a lens hood will not help. You should increase your ISO considerably and stop down to at least f8. Adjust shutter speed as needed but not below 1/320 when handheld with a 200mm on a crop body. |
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Karhallarn
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Posted: Thu Apr 18, 2013 4:24 am Post subject: |
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Karhallarn wrote:
@frenched: I can't really make out any sign of camera shake in my shots! Even when viewing them in Aperture at 100%. I'm shooting long enough, to know which settings I can handhold. The situation with the "haze" doesn't change with smaller apertures. I tried! _________________ www.MoWePhoto.de
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frenched
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Posted: Fri Apr 19, 2013 1:23 am Post subject: |
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frenched wrote:
Sorry, but I looked at the shots on multiple monitors and they all appear OOF. Are you shooting Raw or JPEG? Manual or something else? |
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