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Which lens do you like for the bokeh?
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 29, 2008 6:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Hey everyone, I bought my first DSLR last month and have immediately started building a weird and wonderful manual lens collection thanks to this site (and another specifically for Alpha cameras)!!

I love my Super Takumar 55/2 and Pentacon 135/2.8 for bokeh...both stunning. My Tessar 50's not bad either! But this one surprised me...a Tamron Adaptall2 70-210 f4-5.6 (really compact model). Caught this in the forest on boxing day...



Hmm...the pic shows up in message preview, but not once posted...weird!!

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PostPosted: Mon Dec 29, 2008 7:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Rokkor 58/1.2
At top of the Spanish Step last week.





PostPosted: Mon Dec 29, 2008 8:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Interesting sample, where did you make it ?


PostPosted: Mon Dec 29, 2008 8:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
I was in Rome last week, and it was taken at the top of the Spanish Step.
There was a walkway with lights on.

That one was taken with Rokkor 58/1.2.

This was taken with Leica 90/2.0 at the same spot.






PostPosted: Mon Dec 29, 2008 8:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Wormhandler wrote:

Kuuan: About bokeh. I believe it is the rendering of the background just as your sample shows. Many people mostly look for how the out of focus highlights render. Bright ring, neutral or gaussian. This may be a a good indication on how the lens renders OOF areas, but it is not the same as bokeh, in it's original meaning.


thank you for your deliberation Jan.

Wormhandler wrote:
Here is one from Olympus zuiko 85mm F2 MC. Frosty greeting from Sweden.




this is a very beautiful image!


PostPosted: Mon Dec 29, 2008 10:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
huhging wrote:
I was in Rome last week, and it was taken at the top of the Spanish Step.
There was a walkway with lights on.

That one was taken with Rokkor 58/1.2.

This was taken with Leica 90/2.0 at the same spot.





Did you do any postprocessing on the images? And is the white balance the same on both? interesting differences in the colour rendering!


PostPosted: Mon Dec 29, 2008 10:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
huhging wrote:
I was in Rome last week, and it was taken at the top of the Spanish Step.
There was a walkway with lights on.

That one was taken with Rokkor 58/1.2.

This was taken with Leica 90/2.0 at the same spot.






I remembered for place just I didn't where is it. I was only one time in Rome, might be I did remember for that, might be somewhere else similar.

Italy is exciting country isn't it ?


PostPosted: Mon Dec 29, 2008 11:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Shrek wrote:
Hey everyone, I bought my first DSLR last month and have immediately started building a weird and wonderful manual lens collection thanks to this site (and another specifically for Alpha cameras)!!

I love my Super Takumar 55/2 and Pentacon 135/2.8 for bokeh...both stunning. My Tessar 50's not bad either! But this one surprised me...a Tamron Adaptall2 70-210 f4-5.6 (really compact model). Caught this in the forest on boxing day...



Hmm...the pic shows up in message preview, but not once posted...weird!!



Welcome! I was curious who is Shrek Wink One of my favorite movie is Shrek... From now all of your images will works in first few posts images and links are disabled by default to avoid spammers.

You have great lenses I also bought these lenses when I started to use Manual lenses on DSLR, both have superb bokeh I love them pretty much.


PostPosted: Tue Dec 30, 2008 1:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
[/quote]

Did you do any postprocessing on the images? And is the white balance the same on both? interesting differences in the colour rendering![/quote]

I don't do much post processing. In fact, I wish i know how to do nice PP..
I just change little contrast, and sharpen a little.

it's interesting that you find the two lens different.
I thought they were pretty similar...


PostPosted: Tue Dec 30, 2008 3:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
bokeh from very common lens, Lentar 3.5/135







PostPosted: Tue Dec 30, 2008 4:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
Hi all of my friend,

I've just came back and saw all of your great pictures. Thank you very much.

And I've tested my Helios 40-2 85mm f1.5 black version. The bokeh stunt me for a while. Laughing




The sharpness is ok and suitable for portrait.




PostPosted: Tue Dec 30, 2008 3:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Do you like those?







They were shot with an MC Ennagon 2.8/85:


The story: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lucispictor-photo/471319559/in/set-72157604356422425/


PostPosted: Tue Dec 30, 2008 3:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Very nice indeed!


PostPosted: Tue Dec 30, 2008 4:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
LucisPictor wrote:
Do you like those?







They were shot with an MC Ennagon 2.8/85:


The story: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lucispictor-photo/471319559/in/set-72157604356422425/


Oh, I like them very much, LucisPictor. Could you provide me the details for this lens?


PostPosted: Tue Dec 30, 2008 10:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Pre-War 5cm F1.5 Carl Zeiss Jena Sonnar set (by me) in Leica Mount.



Wide-Open on the Bessa R2.


PostPosted: Tue Dec 30, 2008 10:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Nice to see this rare guy in action , thank you for sharing!


PostPosted: Wed Dec 31, 2008 1:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
The odd thing about this 1935 lens- the front element is coated. I thought it was an aftermarket job until I saw a couple more on the Web in the same SN number range that also had front elements that were coated. It is sharp!


PostPosted: Wed Dec 31, 2008 1:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
Jena had famous T coating I don't know when they did start to use I have some cm scale lenses with red T mark.


PostPosted: Wed Dec 31, 2008 2:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
I also converted a 1939 5cm F1.5 "T" coated lens. Wide-Open on the Canon P.



I've read that Zeiss started coating lenses on a limited basis in 1935. By 1939, the "T" coated lenses were being produced. I also picked up a 1940 5cm f2 "T" coated Sonnar, and converted it to the Leica.

1940 CZJ 5cm f2 "T" coated lens, on the Canon P.



PostPosted: Wed Dec 31, 2008 9:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
KhanX wrote:
LucisPictor wrote:
They were shot with an MC Ennagon 2.8/85:


The story: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lucispictor-photo/471319559/in/set-72157604356422425/


Oh, I like them very much, LucisPictor. Could you provide me the details for this lens?


Just follow the quoted link, that'll tell you all I know about this lens...


PostPosted: Wed Dec 31, 2008 1:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
quick comparision:

Jupiter 37AM MC 135/3.5
Pentacon preset 135/2.8 (bokeh-monster)
TAIR 11A 135/2.8

at f/5

The same white balance for all (this WB seems to be best for the Pentacon), but lighting conditions changed a bit.

Jupiter


Pentacon


Tair


Seems to their real focal length is not identical, but their bokeh (at least in these conditions) is very similar...


PostPosted: Wed Dec 31, 2008 2:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
no-X wrote:
...Seems to their real focal length is not identical, but their bokeh (at least in these conditions) is very similar...

But in my opinion the Tair is the best of the bunch!
Thanks for these shots.


PostPosted: Thu Jan 01, 2009 5:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Some of my examples :

S-M-C Takumar 35/2 @f/2 :


Tamron 500SP (dirty sensor, I know Rolling Eyes ):


Helios 44M-4 @f/2 :


Enna Munchen 240/4.5 @f/4.5 on extension tubes :


And to finish, my Domiplan 50/2.8 that I modified :




Yes, it's a triangular bokeh, I remove 3 blades of the diaphgram Mr. Green


PostPosted: Sat Jan 03, 2009 6:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
Hi CarbonR,

Domiplan 50mm f2.8 is great. What is the bayonet mount and why did you modified it?


PostPosted: Sat Jan 03, 2009 7:54 pm    Post subject: SMC Takumar 50mm f2 M42 Reply with quote
SMC Takumar 50mm f2 M42
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