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rx7speed
Joined: 19 Feb 2009 Posts: 14
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Posted: Thu Apr 30, 2009 1:10 am Post subject: which 50mm 1.4 lens. FD ssc, FD non SSC or super takumar |
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rx7speed wrote:
this is primary for a A1 body and so I know with the takumar I will need an adapter which I'm fine with but also with the takumar it will be easier to use with my XSI as well. I'm able to get all of them at about the same price right now and wonder which one would you have your preference with and why?
any direct comparison between the three lens's as well?
and last question is what is the difference between the SSC lens and the non SSC lens? |
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magnet-2009
Joined: 22 Apr 2009 Posts: 505 Location: Greece, Athens
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Posted: Thu Apr 30, 2009 4:07 am Post subject: |
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magnet-2009 wrote:
I have the fd 50 1.4. Super and cheap. _________________ My flickr___ My Wix___ RailPictures |
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casualcollector
Joined: 01 Aug 2008 Posts: 748 Location: Spaced out on Florida's Space Coast
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Posted: Thu Apr 30, 2009 12:24 pm Post subject: Re: which 50mm 1.4 lens. FD ssc, FD non SSC or super takumar |
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casualcollector wrote:
rx7speed wrote: |
this is primary for a A1 body and so I know with the takumar I will need an adapter which I'm fine with but also with the takumar it will be easier to use with my XSI as well. I'm able to get all of them at about the same price right now and wonder which one would you have your preference with and why?
any direct comparison between the three lens's as well?
and last question is what is the difference between the SSC lens and the non SSC lens? |
Get the Canon and enjoy the A-1's features. It is the Canon I use most. Better yet, get one of each if the budget allows.
I've never used the Takumar but find the 50/1.4 Canon a fine lens. My collection of magazines from the 70s indicates there may be more variation from lens to lens than there is between Asahi and Canon. The Tak may have qualities you like better than the Canon. The opposite may also be true.
S.C. stands for Canon's Spectra Coating. It may involve more than one layer on specific elements to acheive Canon's design goals.
S.S.C. means Super Spectra Coating, a response to Asahi's SMC. Not all Canon lenses received the SSC treatment, it was applied if a noticable improvement was acheived.
The later "New FD" lenses were introduced after the "Multi Coating" advertising hype had passed and are not differentiated on the data ring. As before, they received SC or SSC coating as needed to acheive design goals. _________________ In Search Of "R" Serial Soligors
Found: 135/2.8 #R407660, 200/4 #R405526, 300/5.5 #R411127 |
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marty
Joined: 09 Apr 2009 Posts: 767 Location: Italy
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Posted: Thu Apr 30, 2009 1:50 pm Post subject: |
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marty wrote:
Hi,
I don't know about Takumars, but the Canon FD lenses are indeed fine. The main difference between SSC and plain 50mm f1.4 is that
the latter has no coating at all and thus is more prone to flare and other optical aberrations. AFAIK the optical scheme is just the same. I can't tell anything about performance since I have no direct experience with those two specimens. I own the 50 f1.8 S.C. and I think it's a fine performer, the 50 f1.4 S.S.C. is said to be slight better and I guess it has to do with the fact that the latter is multicoated and the former only single.
I would go with the S.S.C. and enjoy the full capabilities of what I think it's a wonderful camera. BTW at the moment it's my workhorse.
Marty.
PS: Just to clarify I'm referring to old breech lock models, the new series without the aluminium ring are all SSC except 50 f1.8 which is SC. The new FD 50 1.4 is therefore equivalent to 50 f1.4 S.S.C. |
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ramiller500
Joined: 20 Nov 2007 Posts: 124 Location: Indianapolis, IN, USA
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Posted: Tue Jul 27, 2010 7:00 pm Post subject: |
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ramiller500 wrote:
Every element of every Canon SLR lens of whatever series is coated. _________________ Sincerely,
Bob Miller |
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AhamB
Joined: 22 Jun 2008 Posts: 733 Location: Germany
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Posted: Tue Jul 27, 2010 8:58 pm Post subject: |
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AhamB wrote:
Bokeh and sharpness look good: http://www.fredmiranda.com/forum/topic/597185/341#8683486 |
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visualopsins
Joined: 05 Mar 2009 Posts: 10540 Location: California
Expire: 2025-04-11
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Posted: Tue Jul 27, 2010 9:53 pm Post subject: |
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visualopsins wrote:
ramiller500 wrote: |
Every element of every Canon SLR lens of whatever series is coated. |
references? _________________ ☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮ like attracts like! ☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮
Cameras: Sony ILCE-7RM2, Spotmatics II, F, and ESII, Nikon P4
Lenses:
M42 Asahi Optical Co., Takumar 1:4 f=35mm, 1:2 f=58mm (Sonnar), 1:2.4 f=58mm (Heliar), 1:2.2 f=55mm (Gaussian), 1:2.8 f=105mm (Model I), 1:2.8/105 (Model II), 1:5.6/200, Tele-Takumar 1:5.6/200, 1:6.3/300, Macro-Takumar 1:4/50, Auto-Takumar 1:2.3 f=35, 1:1.8 f=55mm, 1:2.2 f=55mm, Super-TAKUMAR 1:3.5/28 (fat), 1:2/35 (Fat), 1:1.4/50 (8-element), Super-Multi-Coated Fisheye-TAKUMAR 1:4/17, Super-Multi-Coated TAKUMAR 1:4.5/20, 1:3.5/24, 1:3.5/28, 1:2/35, 1:3.5/35, 1:1.8/85, 1:1.9/85 1:2.8/105, 1:3.5/135, 1:2.5/135 (II), 1:4/150, 1:4/200, 1:4/300, 1:4.5/500, Super-Multi-Coated Macro-TAKUMAR 1:4/50, 1:4/100, Super-Multi-Coated Bellows-TAKUMAR 1:4/100, SMC TAKUMAR 1:1.4/50, 1:1.8/55
M42 Carl Zeiss Jena Flektogon 2.4/35
Contax Carl Zeiss Vario-Sonnar T* 28-70mm F3.5-4.5
Pentax K-mount SMC PENTAX ZOOM 1:3.5 35~105mm, SMC PENTAX ZOOM 1:4 45~125mm
Nikon Micro-NIKKOR-P-C Auto 1:3.5 f=55mm, NIKKOR-P Auto 105mm f/2.5 Pre-AI (Sonnar), Micro-NIKKOR 105mm 1:4 AI, NIKKOR AI-S 35-135mm f/3,5-4,5
Tamron SP 17mm f/3.5 (51B), Tamron SP 17mm f/3.5 (51BB), SP 500mm f/8 (55BB), SP 70-210mm f/3.5 (19AH)
Vivitar 100mm 1:2.8 MC 1:1 Macro Telephoto (Kiron)
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Rolf
Joined: 02 May 2009 Posts: 4123 Location: NRW/Germany
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Posted: Wed Jul 28, 2010 6:31 am Post subject: |
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Rolf wrote:
I paid for mine FD 1.4/50 (new version, explanation above) 14 € in unused condition.
So there is no need to work with an adapter and Tak at a FD mount/bayonet.
_________________ Rolf |
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symphonic
Joined: 23 May 2010 Posts: 550 Location: SE Europe, Croatia
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Posted: Wed Jul 28, 2010 7:41 am Post subject: |
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symphonic wrote:
Wow, some great photos in that thread. I should check FM forums more often. _________________ Toni,
EOS 450D
CZJ Sonnar 135/3.5 MC | Pancolar 50/1.8 MC
Contax Planar 50/1.4 AEJ | Contax Sonnar 135/2.8 AEJ
Yashica ML 28/2.8 | Zuiko 28/3.5
Vivitar Series1 105/2.5 OM
AF: Tokina 12-24 |
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hinnerker
Joined: 17 Aug 2009 Posts: 929 Location: Germany near Kiel
Expire: 2015-08-09
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Posted: Wed Jul 28, 2010 8:03 am Post subject: |
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hinnerker wrote:
Hi,
did some conversions FD>EF Mount.. incl. 1.2/55mm SSC and 1.4/50mm SSC... both now reaching infinity without added glas adapter.
So you can see, how the SSC's perform..
The 1.4/50mm SSC (chrome ring version)..
The results @1.4.. on an EOS 5D MKII (boring test shots)
Crop ~800 Pixel..
Next sample..
And a last one..
The crop..
A bit soft @ 1.4, but the performance is ok. But on a film cam.. the behavior should sometimes better than on a DSLR...
For those who are interested i did write a long documentation in our german forum "how to make the conversion of the SSC Lenses", especially the Canon FD 1.2/55mm SSC.. (sorry, only in german language... use google translate)
http://www.digicamclub.de/showthread.php?12322-Canon-FD-1.2-55mm-SSC-Umbaudoku..
Cheers
Henry _________________ some light-painting lens stuff..
... and an EOS 5D MKII
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AhamB
Joined: 22 Jun 2008 Posts: 733 Location: Germany
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Posted: Wed Jul 28, 2010 8:14 am Post subject: |
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AhamB wrote:
Did you also convert the Tokina 90/2.5 macro? I have one that I use on a FD macro adapter, but it's a shame that I can't use it for medium and longer focus distance. |
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hinnerker
Joined: 17 Aug 2009 Posts: 929 Location: Germany near Kiel
Expire: 2015-08-09
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Posted: Wed Jul 28, 2010 9:16 am Post subject: |
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hinnerker wrote:
AhamB wrote: |
Did you also convert the Tokina 90/2.5 macro? I have one that I use on a FD macro adapter, but it's a shame that I can't use it for medium and longer focus distance. |
Yes, i did the conversion also.. _________________ some light-painting lens stuff..
... and an EOS 5D MKII
www.digicamclub.de |
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ramiller500
Joined: 20 Nov 2007 Posts: 124 Location: Indianapolis, IN, USA
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Posted: Wed Jul 28, 2010 2:10 pm Post subject: |
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ramiller500 wrote:
visualopsins wrote: |
ramiller500 wrote: |
Every element of every Canon SLR lens of whatever series is coated. |
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This is well known for post-WW2 lenses (which Canon SLR lenses are). Check with your favorite search engine.
Canon's lens series prior to FD was FL. My FL lens brochure details the coatings used for the lenses. They did not regress somehow when moving on to FD! _________________ Sincerely,
Bob Miller |
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