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blende8
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 Posted: Wed Nov 24, 2010 7:17 pm Post subject: What is the smallest M42 135mm lens? |
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blende8 wrote:
What is the smallest screw mount M42 135mm lens that you know?
I am wondering because all the ones I see are rather large ...
... compared to the Pentax M 135/3.5, which is only
66mm in length (without bajonett) and
60mm in diameter and
270 g in weight.
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ManualFocus-G
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| Posted: Wed Nov 24, 2010 7:30 pm Post subject: |
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ManualFocus-G wrote:
I have the tiny Fujita 135/4.5 in M42 mount, like this one:
http://forum.mflenses.com/fujita-135mm-f-4-5-m37-mount-samples-t26704,highlight,fujita.html
Can't imagine a smaller one!
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martyn_bannister
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| Posted: Wed Nov 24, 2010 7:54 pm Post subject: |
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martyn_bannister wrote:
Is that a native M42 or an adapter? The example you show is M37. Is it smaller than the TAMRON TWIN-TELE (which also has an adapter)? Mine measures 68mm long to front of adapter, 48mm max diameter, weighing in at 208g. |
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stingOM
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| Posted: Wed Nov 24, 2010 8:08 pm Post subject: |
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stingOM wrote:
I would have thought that the Zuiko version is the smallest  |
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| Posted: Wed Nov 24, 2010 8:51 pm Post subject: |
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visualopsins wrote:
Smallest I have is Takumar 1:3.5/135 (preset), 52x95mm, 327g.
No prize 
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ManualFocus-G
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| Posted: Wed Nov 24, 2010 8:53 pm Post subject: |
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ManualFocus-G wrote:
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Is that a native M42 or an adapter? The example you show is M37. Is it smaller than the TAMRON TWIN-TELE (which also has an adapter)? Mine measures 68mm long to front of adapter, 48mm max diameter, weighing in at 208g. |
That's not my copy  Mine has an M42 mount.
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Mal1905
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| Posted: Wed Nov 24, 2010 9:19 pm Post subject: |
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Mal1905 wrote:
I've got a Dollonds-S 3.5/135 which is the smallest 135mm lens I've ever seen - check it out
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luisalegria
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| Posted: Wed Nov 24, 2010 9:27 pm Post subject: |
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luisalegria wrote:
Definitely the Fujita 135/4.5, that I know of.
Its smaller than the Tamron, the Takumar, the Dollonds (who made that ? I have one branded "Palinar"), the Tokina 135/3.5, and all the various others I have.
I had a picture of it in a lineup with the Tamron and the Takumar, but it seems to have dropped off my Flickr.
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luisalegria
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| Posted: Wed Nov 24, 2010 9:38 pm Post subject: |
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luisalegria wrote:
Fujita 135/4.5 (Peerotar brand, the Fujita-branded ones are in a nicer black and chrome) -
I need to stick my comparison shot back on flickr.
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Attila wrote:
http://www.mflenses.com/gallery/v/german/isco_gottingen/tele_westanar_135mm/?
This is pretty small.
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martyn_bannister
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| Posted: Thu Nov 25, 2010 7:03 am Post subject: |
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martyn_bannister wrote:
| ManualFocus-G wrote: |
| martyn_bannister wrote: |
Is that a native M42 or an adapter? The example you show is M37. Is it smaller than the TAMRON TWIN-TELE (which also has an adapter)? Mine measures 68mm long to front of adapter, 48mm max diameter, weighing in at 208g. |
That's not my copy Mine has an M42 mount. |
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blende8
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| Posted: Thu Nov 25, 2010 8:15 am Post subject: |
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blende8 wrote:
Ok, the Fujita seems to be the smallest with respect to diameter.
But it seems from the images to be about 10 cm in length.
So, what then is the shortest 135mm?
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Laurentiu Cristofor
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| Posted: Thu Nov 25, 2010 8:19 am Post subject: |
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Laurentiu Cristofor wrote:
Jupiter 37A is also quite small: 100mm length, 58mm wide.
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Bob van Sikorski
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| Posted: Thu Nov 25, 2010 8:57 am Post subject: |
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Bob van Sikorski wrote:
mine 37A has 85mm lenght (without screw), 58mm wide (withnout lens hood) and weights 368g (without lens hood and caps).
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crm-114
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| Posted: Thu Nov 25, 2010 10:05 am Post subject: raynox |
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crm-114 wrote:
my tele raynox 135/2.8 is 70mm long, front to mount, excluding screw, but more like 80mm front to back including all elements |
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martyn_bannister
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| Posted: Thu Nov 25, 2010 6:24 pm Post subject: |
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martyn_bannister wrote:
That's it then. The TAMRON TWIN-TELE wins at 68mm in length - front of lens to front of adapter. Unless someone can find something shorter?
What is the maximum diameter of the Fujita? |
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ManualFocus-G
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| Posted: Thu Nov 25, 2010 7:06 pm Post subject: |
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ManualFocus-G wrote:
And the winner is...the Fujita! 
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| Posted: Thu Nov 25, 2010 7:13 pm Post subject: |
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rawhead wrote:
The Tele-Astranar 135mm was pretty small (sold, so I don't know the dimensions) but that was a T-mount:
http://forum.mflenses.com/tele-astranar-135mm-f3-5-t15013,highlight,astranar.html
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| Posted: Thu Nov 25, 2010 7:14 pm Post subject: |
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Nordentro wrote:
Damn, fujita is on my watchlist
Tamron Twin-Tele 135mm f4.5 vs Spiratone 135mm f1.8 size comparison 
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| Posted: Thu Nov 25, 2010 7:23 pm Post subject: |
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Nordentro wrote:
| ManualFocus-G wrote: |
| And the winner is...the Fujita! |
I think mine Tarmon is a bit shorter than yours. I don't have that border on the top of the lens But still, without the border the fujita is a bit smaller
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ManualFocus-G
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| Posted: Thu Nov 25, 2010 7:29 pm Post subject: |
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ManualFocus-G wrote:
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Damn, fujita is on my watchlist
Tamron Twin-Tele 135mm f4.5 vs Spiratone 135mm f1.8 size comparison
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DSG
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| Posted: Thu Nov 25, 2010 7:44 pm Post subject: |
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DSG wrote:
Thats small but its also very slow...Perhaps a better question would be:
"What is the smallest 135mm f2.8 lens?", as surely most people go for faster f2.8 versions.
My M42 Vivitar 135mm f2.8 is just 86mm long (including the screw) at the infinity setting (extending to 100mm long at its 5ft closest focus distance) and its 61mm in diameter with a 52mm filter thread. Its a pre-select version with two aperture dials about an inch back from the front.
It has a beautiful 15 blade iris, giving a virtually perfectly circular aperture and the best bit is I only had to pay £2 for it!!!
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martyn_bannister
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| Posted: Thu Nov 25, 2010 10:26 pm Post subject: |
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martyn_bannister wrote:
| ManualFocus-G wrote: |
And the winner is...the Fujita!
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Looks like the Fujita takes it. Unless, of course, it's an optical illusion. Don't you have to wear vertical stripes to look taller, or is it horizontal stripes to look fatter? Oh, I can't remember now.... |
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| Posted: Thu Nov 25, 2010 11:26 pm Post subject: |
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Lloydy wrote:
Super Paragon 135 f2.8
88mm long at 1.5 Metre (full extension) from camera to front, 65mm dia'.
Maybe not the smallest, but still a compact lens.
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| Posted: Fri Nov 26, 2010 6:54 am Post subject: |
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martinsmith99 wrote:
I'm sure my Chinon could compete. I'll measure it later when I get home.
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