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calvin83
Joined: 12 Apr 2009 Posts: 7555 Location: Hong Kong
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Posted: Wed Jan 08, 2014 2:16 pm Post subject: |
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calvin83 wrote:
Rick1779 wrote: |
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What is a lens with cork? |
It's a modification made on a filter glass to apply on the lens, originally seen on the mflenses fb page
I can't find the thread on the forum but here are my test http://www.telltale.it/experiment-with-the-cork-bokeh/
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A cork works best for super tele. Use this method with short focal length lens.
http://iamseekelvin.blogspot.com/2008/08/blog-post_30.html _________________ https://lensfever.com/
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eddieitman
Joined: 12 Apr 2011 Posts: 1246 Location: United Kingdom
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Posted: Wed Jan 08, 2014 5:21 pm Post subject: |
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eddieitman wrote:
Chinon 55mm F1.7 (leather grip version some samples on my site)
http://digital-darkroom.weebly.com/chinon-55mm-f17.html
The last photos of the crocuses are from the newer K mount version of the lens _________________ My web site www.digital-darkroom.weebly.com
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Lloydy
Joined: 02 Sep 2009 Posts: 7788 Location: Ironbridge. UK.
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Posted: Wed Jan 08, 2014 9:35 pm Post subject: |
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Lloydy wrote:
To do the cork trick - the cork or whatever you use has a small hole in the middle ? And does it need to be down on the front element, or behind it as in the Japanese modification ?
I tried a disc of black sticky tape on an old UV filter and the results were crap, but I didn't didn't persist. Maybe I'll have another go tomorrow. _________________ LENSES & CAMERAS FOR SALE.....
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kido
Joined: 06 Jun 2013 Posts: 105 Location: Chile
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Posted: Thu Jan 09, 2014 3:06 am Post subject: |
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kido wrote:
Would the lens that produced this photo count as an artistic one?
_________________ [C&C] on my pictures are most welcomed. |
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Webwalker
Joined: 09 Jan 2012 Posts: 96 Location: Bishkek, Kyrgyzstan
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Posted: Thu Jan 09, 2014 9:08 am Post subject: Re: What are some amazing artistic lens? |
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Webwalker wrote:
vanylapep wrote: |
.. so I'm asking your help for lens recommendation that could help me take weird (artistic) photos...
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Did you try lensbaby, monocle? A petzval lens may be... factory or hand made. _________________ Sony SLT A58
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AF: Minolta AF 50mm 1.7, mini beercan, beercan, secret handshake, Sigma Tele Converter X1.4 |
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Mos6502
Joined: 20 Jun 2011 Posts: 960 Location: Austin
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Posted: Thu Jan 09, 2014 9:20 am Post subject: |
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Mos6502 wrote:
Wide angle auxiliary lens with a reversed front element:
Just find one that fits your favorite lens and reverse the front element. |
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JohnBar
Joined: 21 Jun 2012 Posts: 581 Location: Liverpool
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Posted: Thu Jan 09, 2014 2:07 pm Post subject: |
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JohnBar wrote:
Use and abuse of a split field lens can be an artistic source
Also a video using split field ( not mine)
http://vimeo.com/groups/33332/videos/24358873 _________________ Rectilux 3FF Series single focus anamorphic attachments
http://www.transferconvert.co.uk/cinemania/rectilux-3ff.html
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ForenSeil
Joined: 15 Apr 2011 Posts: 2726 Location: Kiel, Germany.
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Posted: Thu Jan 09, 2014 2:38 pm Post subject: |
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ForenSeil wrote:
-Cyclop 85/1.5 (became expensive)
-Helios 40/1.5 (expensive)
-Trioplan 100/2.8 (became expensive)
-Fujian 35mm F1.7 C-Mount (very cheap but works only on NEX/ILCE or µFT)
-Sony- or Minolta 135/2.8 STF (expensive, but extraordinary almost like synthetic ultra smooth bokeh)
-Any Mirror lens with macro/close up abbilites (hard to use but especially when used for macro on large spiders etc. with highlight in background it can deliver an awesome look)
-Any fixed focal length lens with removed, flipped etc. glas element (for example for Helios 44 there are several DIY mods, but generally it works with every prime lens)
-Any tele lens with an UV-Filter+Vaseline in front of it (giving some vintage-like glow and with more vaseline it's very similar to imho generally overpriced softfocus lenses)
-Helios 44-2 58/2 or CZJ Biotar 58/2 if used correctly (cheap, swirly background, vintage look)
-There are several interresting effect filters like the split lens mentioned above
-A transparent string of rubber etc. in front of a lens gives nice Anamorphic-lens-like (cinema movie lens like) flare effects
-Or of course you could directly use Anamorphic lenses
There many more. Even a Domiplan or similar lenses (crappier is often better here) could be used for artistic effects etc.,.. Also slide projector lenses etc. can be used and many of them are producing special look (often beeing Petzval-like, Diaplan-like etc. design) but most of the are damn hard to adapt nicely. _________________ I'm not a collector, I'm a tester
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Most wanted: Samyang 24/1.4, Samyang 35/1.4, Nikon 200/2 ED
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vanylapep
Joined: 03 Jan 2014 Posts: 312
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Posted: Thu Jan 09, 2014 6:42 pm Post subject: |
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vanylapep wrote:
kido wrote: |
Would the lens that produced this photo count as an artistic one?
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Holy hell, yes!! What lens is that? |
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Minolfan
Joined: 30 Dec 2008 Posts: 3438 Location: Netherlands
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Posted: Thu Jan 09, 2014 11:33 pm Post subject: |
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Minolfan wrote:
kida wrote: |
Would the lens that produced this photo count as an artistic one? |
Well, the result counts IMO; wether the les is special or not, the photographer made something special!
Fine picture. |
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vanylapep
Joined: 03 Jan 2014 Posts: 312
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Posted: Fri Jan 10, 2014 1:13 am Post subject: |
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vanylapep wrote:
Agreed Minolfan. Btw, people who suggested post processing, i hope you're being sacaratic because i would call that cheating |
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luisalegria
Joined: 07 Mar 2008 Posts: 6602 Location: San Francisco, USA
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Posted: Fri Jan 10, 2014 3:56 am Post subject: |
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luisalegria wrote:
Vaseline on filter is the Bob Guccione 1970's Penthouse magazine solution.
Great for ladies portraits! And perhaps other sorts of "artistic" work, if one does not want to use modern systems to make humans more ideal.
As for artistic lenses, you can add Zeiss Biotar 75/1.5 (much too expensive, only lucky characters like me have them from when they were cheap)
This also has swirly bokeh, and Meyer Primoplan 58/1.9 (also much too expensive for what it is) which is semi soft focus with good bokeh. _________________ I like Pentax DSLR's, Exaktas, M42 bodies of all kinds, strange and cheap Japanese lenses, and am dabbling in medium format/Speed Graphic work. |
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kido
Joined: 06 Jun 2013 Posts: 105 Location: Chile
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Posted: Fri Jan 10, 2014 5:58 pm Post subject: |
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kido wrote:
vanylapep wrote: |
Holy hell, yes!! What lens is that? |
It's a $15 Sears 135mm f/2.8 with "Macro Zone". There are a few different Sears 135mm, the one you want is the made in Korea f/2.8 with knurled ring at the front. I have no idea who was the original maker.
I haven't taken any photos of this lens yet, but you can see it here:
http://www.pentaxforums.com/userreviews/sears-135mm-f-2-8-macro-zone.html
The error that people sometimes commit while reviewing this Sears is, they seriously believe that rotating the macro ring will magically turn a normal lens into macro.
The reality is this: when you shoot with this lens at normal setting it's really decent and sharp, even wide open. Probably not the best 135mm out there, but a pleasure to use with nice rendering and the kind of bokeh that appeals to me.
However, when you rotate the knurled ring and set it to one of the 3 "macro zone" settings, magic starts happening. The further you turn the ring, the more "magic" you get
You get a beautiful glow and certain softness to the image while preserving quite a lot of detail, similar to soft-focus lenses. Strange things happen to light and bokeh circles get magnified (the picture I posted wasn't cropped).
The lens really invites to do some creative work. Of course the "macro zone" has nothing, or not much to do with macro since all you get is a closer focusing distance and you loose the infinity. In my opinion it should be called something like "Bonkers Zone" because with the picture you are getting, all the macro/close focus thing is pretty much irrelevant. It really puts a smile on your face, just walking with the live-view on and looking at things through the eyes of crazy
It's also great for shooting unusual portraits. Not only it enables you to get some special results, but taking advantage of the softness you can use it to diminish some skin blemishes without PP.
In all fairness I haven't got to use it that much yet, but enough to know its potential. When I read that you were looking for an artsy lens, I thought it may just be the tool you want. I went outside, found some weed and shot a few pictures against the sun setting behind some tall trees. The photo I uploaded is one of them (hand-held, 1/160, f/2.8, ISO100, max "macro" setting).
If I was able to achieve it just like that, imagine what's possible with some effort and skill Searching the web you will find some great examples.
Minolfan wrote: |
Well, the result counts IMO; wether the les is special or not, the photographer made something special!
Fine picture. |
Thank you. I agree that the result is the final goal, yet in this case, the lens was crucial for achieving it so I guess we worked well together _________________ [C&C] on my pictures are most welcomed. |
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vanylapep
Joined: 03 Jan 2014 Posts: 312
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Posted: Fri Jan 10, 2014 7:29 pm Post subject: |
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vanylapep wrote:
Weed indeed, does help |
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luisalegria
Joined: 07 Mar 2008 Posts: 6602 Location: San Francisco, USA
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Posted: Fri Jan 10, 2014 7:38 pm Post subject: |
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luisalegria wrote:
There are very similar Sigma 135 and 200mm lenses like that with separate "macro" rings.
I have one of the 200mm. _________________ I like Pentax DSLR's, Exaktas, M42 bodies of all kinds, strange and cheap Japanese lenses, and am dabbling in medium format/Speed Graphic work. |
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ZoneV
Joined: 09 Nov 2009 Posts: 1632 Location: Germany
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Posted: Sat Jan 11, 2014 11:10 am Post subject: |
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ZoneV wrote:
kido wrote: |
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However, when you rotate the knurled ring and set it to one of the 3 "macro zone" settings, magic starts happening. The further you turn the ring, the more "magic" you get
You get a beautiful glow and certain softness to the image while preserving quite a lot of detail, similar to soft-focus lenses. Strange things happen to light and bokeh circles get magnified (the picture I posted wasn't cropped)...
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Like luisalegria I think this is quite the same like with the Sigma YS 135mm lenses.
The "soft focus" feature of this is spherical aberration undercorrection. With a modification you also get over corrected spherical aberration - like the Meyer Trioplan 100. It works a bit like the great Nikon Defocus Control lenses!
Even more bokeh magic! _________________ Camera modification, repair and DIY - some links to look through: http://www.4photos.de/camera-diy/index-en.html
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