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Petzval 1840
Joined: 26 Aug 2009
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Location: N.E. of Spain (Europe)
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 Posted: Thu Nov 26, 2009 6:35 pm Post subject: WEP 21mm-M 42. |
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Petzval 1840 wrote:
Hello:
About 1985 I bought in Barcelona this one 21mm-M42. This lens gave me acceptable results until I could buy the Tamron SP 17mm.
If someone can give us information about this lens and the manufacturer, it will be very interesting.
The landscape has been taken today to f:4.
Greetings: David
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larsr
Joined: 25 Jun 2009
Posts: 272
Location: Helsinki, Finland
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| Posted: Thu Nov 26, 2009 9:49 pm Post subject: |
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larsr wrote:
Those Weiton/Wep lenses are a real mystery. I've seen some Wep zooms on sale at a local auction site, but never been interested. Even google doesn't tell much about them. Externally, it does resemble the Flektogon 20/4 a bit, but for 1:1 on focal length, the CV Color-Skopar 21/4 would probably fit the best.
And this is just wild guessing.
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DSLR: Nikon D200
SLR: Nikon FA, Pentax Spotmatic SPII, Zeiss Ikon Icarex 35TM
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24/2.8K AI'd, 28/2.8 AIS, 35/2 AIS, 50/1.4 AIS, 50/1.8 AIS, 50/2 AI, 55/2.8 Micro, 35-70/3.5 AIS, 85/1.8K AI'd, 100/2.8 Series E, 105/2.5 AI, 105/2.5 AIS, 135/3.5 AI, Nikkor 180/2.8 ED AIS, 200/4-Q AI'd, 300/4.5-H AI'd
M42
Misc: Vivitar 28/2.5, Chinon 28/2.8, Cosina Auto Cosinon 50/1.8, Revue Auto Revuenon 50/1.8, Mamiya 50/2, Auto Flex 55/1.7, Cosina Cosinon 135/2.8 MC, Vivitar 135/2.8, Petri 200/3.5 CC Auto
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Asahi-Pentax: SMC-Takumar 55/1.8, Super-Takumar 105/2.8, SMC-Takumar 135/3.5
USSR: Mir-1 37/2.8 (1958 GP), Helios 44-2 58/2
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Helios
Joined: 05 Jan 2008
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Location: East of France
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| Posted: Fri Nov 27, 2009 10:18 am Post subject: |
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Helios wrote:
Not so mysterious ... This lens is made by Panagor . I have it , it is exactly the same . This lens provides saturated , contrasted pictures , but my copy suffers from elements misalignement, and shows a non negligeable distorsion in the right lower angle. The aesthetic is typically Panagor of the end sixties - beginning seventies. WEP-Anker was a german macro accessories and lenses reseller (tele converters, macro extension tubes sets, bellows , and a tilt and shift bellows - seen once in a show-case in germany - ) essentially in Exakta and M42 mounts and after canon, nikon , minolta .... , and the only work they really made was to resell re-branded stuff from Japan ... |
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ovim
Joined: 27 Sep 2008
Posts: 124
Location: Finland
Expire: 2015-01-28
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| Posted: Fri Nov 27, 2009 12:02 pm Post subject: |
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ovim wrote:
I was under the impression that Panagor was just a brand which sold lenses made by Kino optics, Komine (and others?)? Could this be the same lens as Kino-made Vivitar 3.8/20mm? |
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Helios
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Location: East of France
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| Posted: Fri Nov 27, 2009 12:24 pm Post subject: |
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Helios wrote:
Yes , indeed , Panagor was an "european" brand of Kino precision... and maybe Komine .I have a lens under 3 brands : Panagor 2,5/28 , Vivitar 2,5/28 and Admiral 2,5/28 . They are identical , only the Vivitar is slightly different (Focusing and diaph ring)... It is very possible that the Vivitar and Soligor 3,8/20 and this one are the same optic . |
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ovim
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Location: Finland
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| Posted: Fri Nov 27, 2009 1:01 pm Post subject: |
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ovim wrote:
Here's a listing Click here to see on Ebay with the Kino made Vivitar. Focus ring is different, but the dof scale and distance scale are basically the same. |
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D1N0
Joined: 07 Aug 2012
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| Posted: Sat Oct 21, 2023 10:49 am Post subject: |
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D1N0 wrote:
Still looking for this one in the Panagor branding in K-mount or M42. They almost never turn up and when they do it's OM or something else I can't adapt.
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alex_d
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| Posted: Sat Oct 21, 2023 11:28 am Post subject: |
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alex_d wrote:
i have never seen this 21mm lens, but i have a panagor in 28 / 2.5 that shares the same styling. |
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D1N0
Joined: 07 Aug 2012
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| Posted: Sat Oct 21, 2023 11:36 am Post subject: |
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D1N0 wrote:
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| i have never seen this 21mm lens, but i have a panagor in 28 / 2.5 that shares the same styling. |
Yeah that is also made by Kino, but much more common being a 28mm. Predecessor to the 28mm f2.0 that is well known in Vivitar but was also made for Panagor though not in the typical black_silver livery.
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alex_d
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| Posted: Sat Oct 21, 2023 12:32 pm Post subject: |
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alex_d wrote:
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| i have never seen this 21mm lens, but i have a panagor in 28 / 2.5 that shares the same styling. |
Yeah that is also made by Kino, but much more common being a 28mm. Predecessor to the 28mm f2.0 that is well known in Vivitar but was also made for Panagor though not in the typical black_silver livery. |
yes i have read it here that is kino made lens.
it is pretty.
if I was someone who cares about ' the look of a vintage lens on my modern digital camera.. (but it's appear not to be a leica lens ..)' , well that panagor 28 would be very high on my list. |
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eggplant
Joined: 27 May 2020
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| Posted: Sat Oct 21, 2023 12:34 pm Post subject: |
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eggplant wrote:
I'll have to see if a lens diagram for this is available. Maybe someone has one?
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D1N0
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| Posted: Sat Oct 21, 2023 12:55 pm Post subject: |
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D1N0 wrote:
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| I'll have to see if a lens diagram for this is available. Maybe someone has one? |
It is likely the same lens as the Vivitar 20/3.8 Vivitar being a bit more optimistic with their figures. Both diagrams from LensDB 9/7 design.
#1 Vivitar diagram
Panagor
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eggplant
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eggplant wrote:
Oh of course, how could I forget?  Infact, I remember even fishing through the 20mm f3.8 versions to roughly identify who made what, the best I could for personal use a few years ago. I don't think I used inaccurate data for the dates, but was before I looked at certain sources. I could guess how I came to the dates, but there's some chance I could be wrong.
My bad..
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Minolfan
Joined: 30 Dec 2008
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Location: Netherlands
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| Posted: Sun Oct 22, 2023 4:08 pm Post subject: |
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Minolfan wrote:
I have the same lens as a Panagor 21mm 4.0 in MD mount since it came on the market. In the seventies I believe.
Not yet used the lens on digital. It doesn't fit on my Minolta/Sony A, so I have to dig it up to use on mirrorless now. |
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Pancolart
Joined: 04 Feb 2008
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Pancolart wrote:
Test images Part I. http://forum.mflenses.com/panagor-kiron-4-21mm-on-nex-c3-wide-open-bw-1680px-part-i-t61528.html
Test images Part II. http://forum.mflenses.com/panagor-kiron-4-21mm-nex-c3-wide-open-bw-1680px-part-ii-t61529.html
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