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oldschool
Joined: 18 Oct 2016 Posts: 17
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Posted: Sun Oct 23, 2016 4:35 pm Post subject: Voigtlander 35mm 1.2 vs Sigma 35mm Art 1.4 |
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oldschool wrote:
So the Voigtlander 35mm 1.2 is an ASPH lens so I'm wondering if the Summilux ASPH will perform 'better' than the Voigtlander 35mm? I expect the Zeiss ZE 35mm f/1.4 T* Distagon would perform in a similar way to the Sigma.
http://www.paulmarbrook.com/voigtlander-35mm-1-2-vs-sigma-35mm-art-1-4/ |
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tomasg
Joined: 01 Nov 2009 Posts: 1135
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Posted: Sun Oct 23, 2016 5:50 pm Post subject: |
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tomasg wrote:
Looking at the images in your comparison, one could very easily conclude that there is no reason to get the Voightlander over the Sigma (maybe the only thing better on the Voightlander is the foreground bokeh?). But is this really the case?
p.s. the differences between f1.2 and f1.4 on the Voightlander are really small, something i noticced on my Nikkor 50 f1.2. |
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oldschool
Joined: 18 Oct 2016 Posts: 17
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Posted: Sun Oct 23, 2016 5:52 pm Post subject: |
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oldschool wrote:
tomasg wrote: |
Looking at the images in your comparison, one could very easily conclude that there is no reason to get the Voightlander over the Sigma (maybe the only thing better on the Voightlander is the foreground bokeh?). But is this really the case? |
What do you mean by is this really the case?
I think that if you have nothing in focus at at the edges on the same focla plain as the centre then the VL renders beautifully. |
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tomasg
Joined: 01 Nov 2009 Posts: 1135
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Posted: Sun Oct 23, 2016 5:54 pm Post subject: |
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tomasg wrote:
oldschool wrote: |
tomasg wrote: |
Looking at the images in your comparison, one could very easily conclude that there is no reason to get the Voightlander over the Sigma (maybe the only thing better on the Voightlander is the foreground bokeh?). But is this really the case? |
What do you mean by is this really the case?
I think that if you have nothing in focus at at the edges on the same focla plain as the centre then the VL renders beautifully. |
That is exactly what i meant. I think this is a common way of thinking on this forum. |
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oldschool
Joined: 18 Oct 2016 Posts: 17
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Posted: Sun Oct 23, 2016 8:19 pm Post subject: |
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oldschool wrote:
tomasg wrote: |
oldschool wrote: |
tomasg wrote: |
Looking at the images in your comparison, one could very easily conclude that there is no reason to get the Voightlander over the Sigma (maybe the only thing better on the Voightlander is the foreground bokeh?). But is this really the case? |
What do you mean by is this really the case?
I think that if you have nothing in focus at at the edges on the same focla plain as the centre then the VL renders beautifully. |
That is exactly what i meant. I think this is a common way of thinking on this forum. |
So the question is.. is there anything that can match the Sigma 35 Art lens in RF form in terms of sharpness? I know that my E-Mount version of the Zeiss Distagon FE 35mm 1.4 ZA is near identical to the Sigma but has smoother out of focus areas. Again, like the Sigma its a very large lens. I know sharpness isnt everything and thats why I'm here becasue its way down on my list When you see how the Sigma performs all round its very hard to ignore especially against other more expensive lenses. |
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Langstrum
Joined: 16 Feb 2014 Posts: 351
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Posted: Sun Oct 23, 2016 11:45 pm Post subject: |
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Langstrum wrote:
I'm afraid that no RF lens can beat Sigma Art in term of sharpness and bokeh. Even the best modern DSLR lenses in the market now don't have significant advantage over this lens. I find myself very loyal to this lens whenever I need to capture high quality photos. The second choice for me is Voigtlander Ultron 35/1.7, mainly because of its size and sharpness. If I'm not wrong, the Ultron is better than 35/1.2 stopping down to f/1.7. _________________
Camera: Sony A7 mark III, A6300
AF Lenses:
Canon EF 50/1.8; EF 200/2.8 L, EF 200/1.8 L, EF 300/4 L Sony E mount SEL 50/1.8 OSS, SEL 16/2.8 Fuji X mount XF 35/1.4 R
MF Lenses: Peleng MC 8/3.5, 17/2.8 Samyang 14/T3.1, 35/T1.5, TS 24/3.5 ED, 85/T1.5, Polar 85/1.4 Auto Revuenon 28/2.8; MC 50/1.4 Vega11U 50/2.8 Carl Zeiss Tessar 50/2.8 (exakta mount) Auto Chinon 50/1.9 Zenitar ME1 50/1.7 Sears Auto Sears 55/1.4; Sears 135/2.8 Auto Yashinon DX 50/1.4; Tomioka 50/1.2 SMC Pentax 50/1.7; 50/1.4 Canon FD 50/1.4 S.S.C; 55/1.2 S.S.C; FD 50/1.2 L; FD 85/1.2 L; 85/1.2 S.S.C Aspherical; FD 80-200/4 L 300/2.8 S.S.C Fluorite FD 300/2.8 L FD 200/1.8 LCosina-S 50/1.2 Helios Helios 44 Chrome f/22, 44-2, 44-3, 44M-4, 44M-7 (58/2), Helios-40 85/1.5 Jupiter Jupiter-9 85/2; Jupiter-37A 135/3.5; Jupiter-21M 200/4 Nikon Ai 105/2.5 Tairs-3S 300/4.5
Voigtlander 15/4.5 Aspherical; Ultron 35/1.7
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RichA
Joined: 17 Feb 2011 Posts: 55
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Posted: Sun Nov 06, 2016 11:42 pm Post subject: |
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RichA wrote:
Langstrum wrote: |
I'm afraid that no RF lens can beat Sigma Art in term of sharpness and bokeh. Even the best modern DSLR lenses in the market now don't have significant advantage over this lens. I find myself very loyal to this lens whenever I need to capture high quality photos. The second choice for me is Voigtlander Ultron 35/1.7, mainly because of its size and sharpness. If I'm not wrong, the Ultron is better than 35/1.2 stopping down to f/1.7. |
Plastic molded aspheric elements have changed the game, along with myriad "ED" glass available. It's only stopped-down that old lenses with old designs can begin to match modern, high-quality lenses designed for sharpness, contrast, resolution. Lenses long ago would "sacrifice" control of one aspect of performance to improve another, not so much needed these days. |
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