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Esox lucius


Joined: 26 Aug 2008 Posts: 2243 Location: Finland
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Posted: Mon Jan 26, 2009 12:43 pm Post subject: Voigtländer SL 180mm f/4 APO-Lanthar (original size samples) |
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I decided to start a new topic for this lens, as it has been discussed somewhat in bokeh topics but a search did not return any lens-specific topic.
As far as I know, this gem is sold out everywhere and the few used ones available on the aftermarket sell for same (or more) than new did. Personal verdict: Apart from half an f-stop of vignetting and tiny loss of contrast, it does as good a job wide open as at f/5.6. In field use, I can't tell the difference from f/5.6 to f/8 even when pixel-peeping! Excellent detail (but watch the DoF at close focus) with colors and out of focus rendering classified as cream machine.
Color mode is standard, so I have not pushed saturation at all - they look like this out of camera.
Here's a link to a photoset containing more samples. These are (almost) all uploaded original size. http://www.flickr.com/photos/mureena/sets/72157605301652112/ _________________ Vilhelm
Click links in signature for sample photos in large size
Nikon DSLR: Nikon D4, Nikon D800, Nikon D700, Nikon D3, D700, D70
Nikon SLR: Nikon F100, Nikon FM2n
Nikkor MF: 20/2.8 Ai-S, 24/2 Ai-S, 24mm f/3.5D PC-E, 24/2.8 Ai-S, 28/2 Ai-S, 28/2.8 Ai-S, 35/1.4 AIS, 35/2 Ai-S, 45/2.8 GN, 50/1.2 Ai, 50/1.2 Ai-S, 50/1.4 Ai-S, 50/1.8 AI-S "long", 50/1.8 AI-S "short", 55/2.8 Ai-S, 85/1.4 Ai-S, 85/1.8H, 105/2.5 Ai, 105/4 Ai Micro, 135/2.8 Q, 135/2.8 Ai-S, 135/3.5 Ai, 180/2.8 Ai-S ED
Nikkor AF/AF-S FX: 14-24/2.8G, 17-35/2.8D, 24/1.4G, 24/2.8D, 24-70/2.8G, 28/1.4D, 28-300/3.5-5.6G VR, 35/1.4G, 35/1.8G DX, 35/2D, 50/1.4D, 50/1.4G, 50mm f/1.8G, 60/2.8 Micro, 60/2.8G Micro, 70-200/2.8G, 70-200/2.8G VR II, 80-400/4.5-5.6D VR, 85/1.4D, 85/1.4G, 105/2.8G VR Micro, 200/2G VR, 200-400/4G VR, 300/4D ED, 400/2.8G VR II
Nikkor AF/AF-S DX: 10.5/2.8G Fisheye, 10-24/3.5-4.5G, 12-24/4G, 18-70/3.5-4.5G, 18-105/3.5-5.6G VR
Voigtländer SL: 40/2 Ultron, 58/1.4 Nokton, 75/2.5 Color-Heliar, 90/3.5 APO-Lanthar, 125/2.5 APO-Lanthar, 180/4 APO-Lanthar
Zeiss ZF: Planar T* 85/1.4 ZF
M42 SLR: Voigtländer Bessaflex TM
M42: Flektogon 20/4, Flektogon 35/2.4, Tessar 50/2.8 T, Super-Takumar 55/1.8, Biotar 58/2 T, Pentacon 135/2.8, Sonnar 135/3.5
Medium format: several Zeiss Super Ikonta 532/16 Opton-Tessar 80mm f/2.8, Zeiss Ikonta 524/16 Opton-Tessar 75mm f/3.5
Leica: R7, M4, Super-Angulon-R 4/21, Elmarit-R 2.8/28, Summicron-R 2/35, Summicron-M 2/35, Summicron-M 2/50, Elmarit-R 2,8/180
On Fuji film: Velvia, Provia, Reala, Neopan
On Ilford film: PanF, Delta, XP2, SFX, HP4
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thePiRaTE!!


Joined: 31 Oct 2008 Posts: 390 Location: Canada
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Posted: Mon Jan 26, 2009 5:16 pm Post subject: |
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Wonderful samples from a wonderful lens. I'm a big fan also of the quality of all the Lanthars, and this one is no different, nice work. _________________ kellysereda.com
Sony A900, NEX-5
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Helios: 1.5/85 40-2.
Meyer-Optik: Trioplan 2.8/100, Oreston 1.8/50.
Minolta: Rokkor-PG 1.2/58.
Porst: 1.2/55 Color Reflex.
Sony: 4-5.6/70-400 G.
Takumar: Super Takumar 3.5/135, Super Takumar 1.4/50, SMC Takumar 3.5/28.
Topcon: Topcor 1.4/58.
Voigtländer: Nokton Classic SC 1.4/35.
Zeiss: Planar T*1.2/85 "60 jahre" C/Y, Vario-Sonnar T*3.4/35-70 C/Y, Vario-Sonnar T*2.8/16-35 ZA, Distagon T*2/24 ZA.
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koji


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Bruce

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Posted: Mon Jan 26, 2009 6:33 pm Post subject: |
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Remember, you only live once koji  _________________ Canon 40d & 5DmkII: Adapters for EOS: Cy; M42; Zenit39; Exakta; LeicaR; OlympusOM; PK; Nikon; Rollei35; Retina; Adaptal; P-6 |
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koji


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kds315*


Joined: 12 Mar 2008 Posts: 6121 Location: Weinheim/Germany
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Posted: Mon Jan 26, 2009 7:35 pm Post subject: |
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There is also a 125mm and 90mm (and 75mm) version of that lens, if that makes it easier to decide...  _________________ Klaus - Moderator
"S'il vient ŕ point, me souviendra" [Thomas Bohier (1460-1523)]
http://www.macrolenses.de for macro and special lens info
http://www.pbase.com/kds315/uv_photos for UV Images and lens/filter info
http://photographyoftheinvisibleworld.blogspot.com/ my UV diary
Currently most FAV lens(es):
Hypergon f11/26mm
Zeiss UV-Planar f4/60mm
Lomo Уфар-12 f2.5/41mm
Nikon UV Nikkor f4.5/105mm
Zeiss UV-Sonnar f4.3/105mm
CERCO UV-VIS-NIR f4.1/94mm
Pentax Quartz Takumar f3.5/85mm
Rodenstock UV-Rodagon f5.6/60mm
Pentax Ultra-Achromatic Takumar f4.5/85mm
Voigtländer Apo-Macro-Lanthar f2.5 125mm SL
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Attila

Joined: 24 Feb 2007 Posts: 44750 Location: Budapest,Hungary
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Posted: Mon Jan 26, 2009 7:40 pm Post subject: |
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Beautiful shoots! Thank you for sharing! _________________ Attila - admin
Items on sale on Ebay
35mm: Konica A4, Konica IIIA, Konica FC-1
MF: Konica Pearl I,II,III 6x4,5 Konica Semi Pearl
Film: Foma,Kodak, Fuji DIY development C41, FOMA LQR
Scan: Epson V500, scanassist (http://www.scanassist.org)
Shutter tester: LCD tester from member vfmoto
Digital: Panasonic G1, Sony Nex-3, Samsung NX100
Lenses: Konica Hexanons,Carl Zeiss,Carl Zeiss Jena,Meyer-Optik,Minolta MD,Yashica ML,Nikon,Olympus OM
DIY E-6,C41 and B&W
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koji


Joined: 21 Jul 2008 Posts: 2006 Location: Toronto, Canada
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ChrisLilley


Joined: 01 Jan 2008 Posts: 1771 Location: Nice, France
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Posted: Mon Jan 26, 2009 8:54 pm Post subject: |
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| kds315* wrote: | There is also a 125mm and 90mm (and 75mm) version of that lens, if that makes it easier to decide...  |
Yes!
Although the 75mm is a Color-Heliar rather than an APO-Lanthar _________________ Camera (ˈkć mə rə), n. Device for taking pictures in bright light
There are 10 kinds of people in the world: those who understand binary, and those who don’t. Key: Ai-P, Ai, Ai'ed, AiS
Camera: Nikon D90, D40, DK-21M eyepiece, ML-3 remote MF lenses: Nikkor 20mm f/4 K, AI'ed | N.K. Nikkor-N 24mm f/2.8 | Nikkor-N.C 24mm f/2.8 | Nikkor 28mm f/2.8 AiS late model | Арсенал (Arsenal) Мир-24Н (Mir-24N) 35mm f/2 | Cosina Voigtländer Ultron SL II 40mm f/2.0 | Micro-Nikkor 55mm f/2.8 AiS | Zoom-Nikkor 80-200 f/4.5 Ai | ЛЗОС (LZOS) Юпитер-9 (Jupiter-9) 85mm f/2 | Cosina Voigtländer APO-Lanthar 90mm f/3.5 SL | Nikkor-P 105mm f/2.5 pre-Ai, Ai'ed | Micro-Nikkor 105mm f/4 | Schneider Kreuznach Componon 105mm f/5.6 | Nikkor 135mm f/2.8, Ai'ed 1976 model | Nikkor 180mm f/2.8 ED AiS | Арсенал (Arsenal) ТЕЛЕАР-Н (Telear-n) 200mm f/3.5 | Nikkor 300 mm f/4.5 Ai (full equipment list) |
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Abbazz


Joined: 23 Jun 2007 Posts: 777 Location: Vendôme, France
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Posted: Tue Jan 27, 2009 2:26 am Post subject: |
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| ChrisLilley wrote: | | Although the 75mm is a Color-Heliar rather than an APO-Lanthar |
I guess it's the "APO" bit that makes all the difference...
BTW, great pictures, Vilhelm.
Cheers!
Abbazz _________________ Il n'y a rien dans le monde qui n'ait son moment décisif, et le chef-d'oeuvre de la bonne conduite est de connaître et de prendre ce moment. - Cardinal de Retz
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Esox lucius


Joined: 26 Aug 2008 Posts: 2243 Location: Finland
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Posted: Tue Jan 27, 2009 11:24 am Post subject: |
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Thank you everyone!
Compact size, low weight and sharp already from wide open. Depth of field wide open at 1.2m is only 9mm and at f/8 only 18mm so a good viewfinder or focusing screen is required.
The focusing feel and throw is of course in its own class when compared to AF lenses. Excellent build quality and well designed gearing on this lens make it easy to use even at close focusing limit. _________________ Vilhelm
Click links in signature for sample photos in large size
Nikon DSLR: Nikon D4, Nikon D800, Nikon D700, Nikon D3, D700, D70
Nikon SLR: Nikon F100, Nikon FM2n
Nikkor MF: 20/2.8 Ai-S, 24/2 Ai-S, 24mm f/3.5D PC-E, 24/2.8 Ai-S, 28/2 Ai-S, 28/2.8 Ai-S, 35/1.4 AIS, 35/2 Ai-S, 45/2.8 GN, 50/1.2 Ai, 50/1.2 Ai-S, 50/1.4 Ai-S, 50/1.8 AI-S "long", 50/1.8 AI-S "short", 55/2.8 Ai-S, 85/1.4 Ai-S, 85/1.8H, 105/2.5 Ai, 105/4 Ai Micro, 135/2.8 Q, 135/2.8 Ai-S, 135/3.5 Ai, 180/2.8 Ai-S ED
Nikkor AF/AF-S FX: 14-24/2.8G, 17-35/2.8D, 24/1.4G, 24/2.8D, 24-70/2.8G, 28/1.4D, 28-300/3.5-5.6G VR, 35/1.4G, 35/1.8G DX, 35/2D, 50/1.4D, 50/1.4G, 50mm f/1.8G, 60/2.8 Micro, 60/2.8G Micro, 70-200/2.8G, 70-200/2.8G VR II, 80-400/4.5-5.6D VR, 85/1.4D, 85/1.4G, 105/2.8G VR Micro, 200/2G VR, 200-400/4G VR, 300/4D ED, 400/2.8G VR II
Nikkor AF/AF-S DX: 10.5/2.8G Fisheye, 10-24/3.5-4.5G, 12-24/4G, 18-70/3.5-4.5G, 18-105/3.5-5.6G VR
Voigtländer SL: 40/2 Ultron, 58/1.4 Nokton, 75/2.5 Color-Heliar, 90/3.5 APO-Lanthar, 125/2.5 APO-Lanthar, 180/4 APO-Lanthar
Zeiss ZF: Planar T* 85/1.4 ZF
M42 SLR: Voigtländer Bessaflex TM
M42: Flektogon 20/4, Flektogon 35/2.4, Tessar 50/2.8 T, Super-Takumar 55/1.8, Biotar 58/2 T, Pentacon 135/2.8, Sonnar 135/3.5
Medium format: several Zeiss Super Ikonta 532/16 Opton-Tessar 80mm f/2.8, Zeiss Ikonta 524/16 Opton-Tessar 75mm f/3.5
Leica: R7, M4, Super-Angulon-R 4/21, Elmarit-R 2.8/28, Summicron-R 2/35, Summicron-M 2/35, Summicron-M 2/50, Elmarit-R 2,8/180
On Fuji film: Velvia, Provia, Reala, Neopan
On Ilford film: PanF, Delta, XP2, SFX, HP4
On Kodak film: Ektachrome, Portra
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ChrisLilley


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Posted: Tue Jan 27, 2009 1:04 pm Post subject: |
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| Abbazz wrote: | | ChrisLilley wrote: | | Although the 75mm is a Color-Heliar rather than an APO-Lanthar |
I guess it's the "APO" bit that makes all the difference...
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Yup. The APO is "what" (apochromatic, corrected at three wavelengths) and the Lanthar is "how" (Lanthanum glass, though I suspect thats not used nowadays). _________________ Camera (ˈkć mə rə), n. Device for taking pictures in bright light
There are 10 kinds of people in the world: those who understand binary, and those who don’t. Key: Ai-P, Ai, Ai'ed, AiS
Camera: Nikon D90, D40, DK-21M eyepiece, ML-3 remote MF lenses: Nikkor 20mm f/4 K, AI'ed | N.K. Nikkor-N 24mm f/2.8 | Nikkor-N.C 24mm f/2.8 | Nikkor 28mm f/2.8 AiS late model | Арсенал (Arsenal) Мир-24Н (Mir-24N) 35mm f/2 | Cosina Voigtländer Ultron SL II 40mm f/2.0 | Micro-Nikkor 55mm f/2.8 AiS | Zoom-Nikkor 80-200 f/4.5 Ai | ЛЗОС (LZOS) Юпитер-9 (Jupiter-9) 85mm f/2 | Cosina Voigtländer APO-Lanthar 90mm f/3.5 SL | Nikkor-P 105mm f/2.5 pre-Ai, Ai'ed | Micro-Nikkor 105mm f/4 | Schneider Kreuznach Componon 105mm f/5.6 | Nikkor 135mm f/2.8, Ai'ed 1976 model | Nikkor 180mm f/2.8 ED AiS | Арсенал (Arsenal) ТЕЛЕАР-Н (Telear-n) 200mm f/3.5 | Nikkor 300 mm f/4.5 Ai (full equipment list) |
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patrickh


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Posted: Tue Jan 27, 2009 1:12 pm Post subject: |
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The 90/3.5 has long been one of my most used lenses - it certainly compares very well with the best of the nikkors.
patrickh _________________ DSLR: Nikon D300 Nikon D200 Nex 5N
MF Zooms: Kiron 28-85/3.5, 28-105/3.2, 75-150/3.5, Nikkor 50-135/3.5 AIS // MF Primes: Nikkor 20/4 AI, 24/2 AI, 28/2 AI, 28/2.8 AIS, 28/3.5 AI, 35/1.4 AIS, 35/2 AIS, 35/2.8 PC, 45/2.8 P, 50/1.4 AIS, 50/1.8 AIS, 50/2 AI, 55/2.8 AIS micro, 55/3.5 AI micro, 85/2 AI, 100/2,8 E, 105/1,8 AIS, 105/2,5 AIS, 135/2 AIS, 135/2.8 AIS, 200/4 AI, 200/4 AIS micro, 300/4.5 AI, 300/4.5 AI ED, Arsat 50/1.4, Kiron 28/2, Vivitar 28/2.5, Panagor 135/2.8, Tamron 28/2.5, Tamron 90/2.5 macro, Vivitar 90/2.5 macro (Tokina) Voigtlander 90/3.5 Vivitar 105/2.5 macro (Kiron) Kaleinar 100/2.8 AI Tamron 135/2.5, Vivitar 135/2.8CF, 200/3.5, Tokina 400/5,6
M42: Vivitar 28/2.5, Tamron 28/2.5, Formula5 28/2.8, Mamiya 28/2.8, Pentacon 29/2.8, Flektogon 35/2.4, Flektogon 35/2.8, Takumar 35/3.5, Curtagon 35/4, Takumar 50/1.4, Volna-6 50/2.8 macro, Mamiya 50/1.4, CZJ Pancolar 50/1,8, Oreston 50/1.8, Industar 50/3.5, Sears 55/1.4, Helios 58/2, Jupiter 85/2, Helios 85/1.5, Takumar 105/2.8, Steinheil macro 105/4.5, Tamron 135/2.5, Jupiter 135/4, CZ 135/4, Steinheil Culminar 135/4,5, Jupiter 135/3.5, Takumar 135/3.5, Tair 135/2.8, Pentacon 135/2.8, CZ 135/2.8, Takumar 150/4, Jupiter 200/4, Takumar 200/4
Exakta: Topcon 100/2.8(M42), 35/2.8, 135/2.8
C/Y: Yashica 28/2.8, 50/1.7, 135/2.8, Zeiss Planar 50/1.4, Distagon 25/2.8
Hexanon: 28/3.5, 40/1.8, 50/1.7, 52/1.8, 135/3.2
P6 : Mir 38 65/3.5, Biometar 80/2.8, Kaleinar 150/2.8, Sonnar 180/2.8
Enlarg: Rodagon 50/5,6, 80/5,6, 105/5.6, Vario 44-52/4, 150/5.6 180/5.6 El Nikkor 50/2,8,63/2.8,75/4, 80/5,6, 105/5.6, 135/5.6 Schneider 60/5.6, 80/5.6, 80/4S,100/5.6S,105/5.6,135/5.6, 135/5.6S, 150/5.6S |
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koji


Joined: 21 Jul 2008 Posts: 2006 Location: Toronto, Canada
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Posted: Tue Jan 27, 2009 2:19 pm Post subject: |
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Price in Japan:
Just checked two online-shops
APO 90/3.5SL 20,000Yen for Y/C mount, 27,000Yen for M42
APO 125/2.5SL 84,000Yen for Y/C mount
The price is largely dependent on the condition and store, some are
always cheaper than others.
It is relatively hard to find F-mount ones. _________________ My Hone Page has 7,260 photos in 393 directories today.
Lenses: http://www.pbase.com/kkawakami/my_lenses
Cameras: http://www.pbase.com/kkawakami/my_cameras
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Esox lucius


Joined: 26 Aug 2008 Posts: 2243 Location: Finland
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Posted: Tue Jan 27, 2009 3:30 pm Post subject: |
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It seems that I need to add Japan to my list of countries where to do assignments this spring  _________________ Vilhelm
Click links in signature for sample photos in large size
Nikon DSLR: Nikon D4, Nikon D800, Nikon D700, Nikon D3, D700, D70
Nikon SLR: Nikon F100, Nikon FM2n
Nikkor MF: 20/2.8 Ai-S, 24/2 Ai-S, 24mm f/3.5D PC-E, 24/2.8 Ai-S, 28/2 Ai-S, 28/2.8 Ai-S, 35/1.4 AIS, 35/2 Ai-S, 45/2.8 GN, 50/1.2 Ai, 50/1.2 Ai-S, 50/1.4 Ai-S, 50/1.8 AI-S "long", 50/1.8 AI-S "short", 55/2.8 Ai-S, 85/1.4 Ai-S, 85/1.8H, 105/2.5 Ai, 105/4 Ai Micro, 135/2.8 Q, 135/2.8 Ai-S, 135/3.5 Ai, 180/2.8 Ai-S ED
Nikkor AF/AF-S FX: 14-24/2.8G, 17-35/2.8D, 24/1.4G, 24/2.8D, 24-70/2.8G, 28/1.4D, 28-300/3.5-5.6G VR, 35/1.4G, 35/1.8G DX, 35/2D, 50/1.4D, 50/1.4G, 50mm f/1.8G, 60/2.8 Micro, 60/2.8G Micro, 70-200/2.8G, 70-200/2.8G VR II, 80-400/4.5-5.6D VR, 85/1.4D, 85/1.4G, 105/2.8G VR Micro, 200/2G VR, 200-400/4G VR, 300/4D ED, 400/2.8G VR II
Nikkor AF/AF-S DX: 10.5/2.8G Fisheye, 10-24/3.5-4.5G, 12-24/4G, 18-70/3.5-4.5G, 18-105/3.5-5.6G VR
Voigtländer SL: 40/2 Ultron, 58/1.4 Nokton, 75/2.5 Color-Heliar, 90/3.5 APO-Lanthar, 125/2.5 APO-Lanthar, 180/4 APO-Lanthar
Zeiss ZF: Planar T* 85/1.4 ZF
M42 SLR: Voigtländer Bessaflex TM
M42: Flektogon 20/4, Flektogon 35/2.4, Tessar 50/2.8 T, Super-Takumar 55/1.8, Biotar 58/2 T, Pentacon 135/2.8, Sonnar 135/3.5
Medium format: several Zeiss Super Ikonta 532/16 Opton-Tessar 80mm f/2.8, Zeiss Ikonta 524/16 Opton-Tessar 75mm f/3.5
Leica: R7, M4, Super-Angulon-R 4/21, Elmarit-R 2.8/28, Summicron-R 2/35, Summicron-M 2/35, Summicron-M 2/50, Elmarit-R 2,8/180
On Fuji film: Velvia, Provia, Reala, Neopan
On Ilford film: PanF, Delta, XP2, SFX, HP4
On Kodak film: Ektachrome, Portra |
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