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iha
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Posted: Tue Jun 12, 2007 8:58 pm Post subject: VOIGTLÄNDER M42 lens - Anyone knows? |
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iha wrote:
Hello,
I can borrow from my friend 50/1.8 and 135/4 lens for trying. The Google does not show lots about Voigtlander M42 lens. Does anyone has any experience?
About the 135mm, I see that its optical element may be the same as the CZ Sonnar MC 135mm. It has the legendary purple color, too.
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Attila
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Posted: Tue Jun 12, 2007 9:30 pm Post subject: |
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Attila wrote:
Nope, please share your experience with us. _________________ -------------------------------
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montecarlo
Joined: 04 Apr 2007 Posts: 1865 Location: Romania
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Posted: Wed Jun 13, 2007 11:00 am Post subject: |
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montecarlo wrote:
Hello,
I found these links:
http://m42.povlab.org/lens_detail.php?lid=295
http://m42.povlab.org/lens_detail.php?lid=283
Click for BHPhoto store
(see the menu on the left side)
http://www.voigtlaender.de/cms/voigtlaender/voigtlaender_cms.nsf/id/pa_dtag6lul2z.html
They might be made by Cosina too ( http://www.cosina.co.jp/kaigai/index.html ).
All the best.
Cosmin.
PS. This is deinetely a Cosina (K baionet) : http://www.shutterbug.com/equipmentreviews/35mm_cameras/0906voigtlander/ _________________ Canonet QL17 III
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LucisPictor
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Posted: Wed Jun 13, 2007 1:10 pm Post subject: |
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LucisPictor wrote:
Hi!
Voigtländer used to be an excellent name in lens production, and it still is for rangefinder lenses!
Some lenses bear the name Voigtländer but cannot be considered high-quality lenses, esp. the modern AF-lenses.
AFAIK, Cosina bought the rights to use the name, now some lenses are excellent others show a poor performance.
But I know that some Voigtländer M42-lenses are copies of Zeiss lenses:
Color-Skoparex 2.8/25 --> CZ Distagon
Color-Skoparex 2.8/35 --> CZ Distagon
Color-Ultron 1.8/50 --> CZ Planar
Color-Dynarex 2.8/85 --> CZ Sonnar
Color-Dynarex 4/135 --> CZ Tele-Tessar
Color-Dynarex 4/200 --> CZ Tele-Tessar
Those lenses, I would like to have!!!
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Orio
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Posted: Wed Jun 13, 2007 1:35 pm Post subject: |
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Orio wrote:
LucisPictor wrote: |
But I know that some Voigtländer M42-lenses are copies of Zeiss lenses:
Color-Skoparex 2.8/25 --> CZ Distagon
Color-Skoparex 2.8/35 --> CZ Distagon
Color-Ultron 1.8/50 --> CZ Planar
Color-Dynarex 2.8/85 --> CZ Sonnar
Color-Dynarex 4/135 --> CZ Tele-Tessar
Color-Dynarex 4/200 --> CZ Tele-Tessar
Those lenses, I would like to have!!!
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Ah, this is very useful information, Carsten!
May be good to get these lenses if they come cheaper than the Zeiss! _________________ Orio, Administrator
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LucisPictor
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Posted: Wed Jun 13, 2007 2:01 pm Post subject: |
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LucisPictor wrote:
Yes, but they very rarely show up on ebay! Unfortunately! _________________ Personal forum activity on pause every now and again (due to job obligations)!
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iha
Joined: 03 Apr 2007 Posts: 284
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Posted: Wed Jun 13, 2007 2:48 pm Post subject: |
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iha wrote:
LucisPictor wrote: |
Hi!
Voigtländer used to be an excellent name in lens production, and it still is for rangefinder lenses!
Some lenses bear the name Voigtländer but cannot be considered high-quality lenses, esp. the modern AF-lenses.
AFAIK, Cosina bought the rights to use the name, now some lenses are excellent others show a poor performance.
But I know that some Voigtländer M42-lenses are copies of Zeiss lenses:
Color-Skoparex 2.8/25 --> CZ Distagon
Color-Skoparex 2.8/35 --> CZ Distagon
Color-Ultron 1.8/50 --> CZ Planar
Color-Dynarex 2.8/85 --> CZ Sonnar
Color-Dynarex 4/135 --> CZ Tele-Tessar
Color-Dynarex 4/200 --> CZ Tele-Tessar
Those lenses, I would like to have!!!
It seems that your lenses are Zeiss copies. You should try to get hold of them! |
Very useful to know.
I look on the 135mm lens and it is true that it is the same as CZ Tele-tessar 135/4.
I found here more interesting information
http://captjack.exaktaphile.com/rollei/Rolleilenses.htm
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LucisPictor
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Posted: Wed Jun 13, 2007 3:44 pm Post subject: |
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LucisPictor wrote:
This is also a nice site! It's in my bookmarks now... _________________ Personal forum activity on pause every now and again (due to job obligations)!
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montecarlo
Joined: 04 Apr 2007 Posts: 1865 Location: Romania
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Posted: Thu Jun 14, 2007 9:58 am Post subject: |
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montecarlo wrote:
Hello,
This one ROLLEI would be the Color Ultron 1.8/50 ?
Rollei made M42 camera bodies ?
Thank you.
Cosmin.
PS. The same seller has some rare lenses listed (a M42 Zuiko too): http://search.ebay.de/_W0QQsassZrarelens _________________ Canonet QL17 III
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Orio
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Posted: Thu Jun 14, 2007 10:43 am Post subject: |
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Orio wrote:
montecarlo wrote: |
Rollei made M42 camera bodies ?
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Yes, I have the proof of it, an M42 Rollei Sonnar 2.8/85 sold to me by our Michael (Borges). _________________ Orio, Administrator
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Posted: Thu Jun 14, 2007 2:03 pm Post subject: |
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LucisPictor wrote:
Yes, I have been watching the M42 Zuiko... _________________ Personal forum activity on pause every now and again (due to job obligations)!
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Attila
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Posted: Thu Jun 14, 2007 2:26 pm Post subject: |
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Attila wrote:
M42 Zuiko ? Sure ? _________________ -------------------------------
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sqwall
Joined: 24 Apr 2007 Posts: 195 Location: Varna, Bulgaria
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Posted: Thu Jun 14, 2007 2:41 pm Post subject: |
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sqwall wrote:
Yep there are M42 Zuikos
Olympus G. Zuiko Auto-W 28mm f/3.5-16
Olympus G. Zuiko Auto-W 35mm f/2.8-16
Olympus G. Zuiko Auto-S 50mm f/1.4-16
Olympus F. Zuiko Auto-S 50mm f/1.8-16
Olympus E. Zuiko Auto-T 135mm f/3.5-22
Olympus E. Zuiko Auto-T 200mm f/4-22
But never found one on ebay _________________ Olympus E-500 | Pentax K100D | Fujifilm S9000
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montecarlo
Joined: 04 Apr 2007 Posts: 1865 Location: Romania
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Posted: Fri Jun 15, 2007 2:39 pm Post subject: |
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montecarlo wrote:
Hello,
Attila wrote: |
M42 Zuiko ? Sure ? |
http://www.camerapedia.org/wiki/Olympus_FTL
http://www.biofos.com/cornucop/ftl.html
All the best.
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iha
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Posted: Fri Jun 15, 2007 3:17 pm Post subject: |
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iha wrote:
montecarlo wrote: |
Hello,
This one ROLLEI would be the Color Ultron 1.8/50 ?
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Yes, they are the same!
I can have these lens with a complete package (1 big leather bag with 2 lens, 2-3 Rollei polarized filter, hoods and a VLS-1 camera). All is made in Singapure and named by Rollei - Voightlander.
Here in Hungary getting this stuff you can call it: Wonderful
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LucisPictor
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Posted: Fri Jun 15, 2007 6:26 pm Post subject: |
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LucisPictor wrote:
LucisPictor wrote: |
Yes, I have been watching the M42 Zuiko... |
Oh boy, I missed the end again... _________________ Personal forum activity on pause every now and again (due to job obligations)!
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iha
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Posted: Tue Jun 19, 2007 6:17 pm Post subject: |
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iha wrote:
First shots with Color-Ultron 50mm 1.8. A files are original, no modified.
Tell me your opinion!
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Attila
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Posted: Tue Jun 19, 2007 6:21 pm Post subject: |
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Attila wrote:
1# ok 2# nothing special.Can you show other subject ? Perhaps good idea to show some crop or full resolution picture. I shoot also this kind of flower many times, but I always was disappointed I ask this reason for other subject . _________________ -------------------------------
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Borges
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Posted: Tue Jun 19, 2007 7:35 pm Post subject: |
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Borges wrote:
iha wrote: |
I can have these lens with a complete package (1 big leather bag with 2 lens, 2-3 Rollei polarized filter, hoods and a VLS-1 camera). All is made in Singapure and named by Rollei - Voightlander.
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Rollei bought Voigtländer after 1971 and the brand Voigtländer was used for Rollei models with less functions, although they came from the same plant using the same parts. Your Voigtländer VLS-1 is a twin of the Rollei SL 35 M (TM if it's a M42).
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iha
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Posted: Wed Jun 20, 2007 8:19 am Post subject: |
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iha wrote:
Attila wrote: |
1# ok 2# nothing special.Can you show other subject ? Perhaps good idea to show some crop or full resolution picture. I shoot also this kind of flower many times, but I always was disappointed I ask this reason for other subject . |
You may be right. Comparing to other M42 lens (Zeiss Pancolar 50/1.8 ) I feel the different. The bokeh is better, the sharpness can reach the quailty of Canon 70-200/4 but its CA may be real trouble.
Cropped at 100%
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Posted: Wed Jun 20, 2007 8:24 am Post subject: |
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Attila wrote:
This is not bad at all from a non -macro lens , truly reach Helios-44 quality or Biotar 58mm. _________________ -------------------------------
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iha
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Posted: Wed Oct 10, 2007 2:00 pm Post subject: |
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iha wrote:
Trying the graphical room.
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Orio
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Posted: Wed Oct 10, 2007 3:42 pm Post subject: |
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Orio wrote:
Curious, those voigtlaender lenses look a lot like the Rollei 135 lenses _________________ Orio, Administrator
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patrickh wrote:
The nikon mount Voigtlanders have been discontinued to allow the company (Cosina) to manufacture the Zeiss (Nikon) range. As an OEM manufacturer with the rights to the Voigtlander name Cosina has probably made quality and not-so-good lenses for a range of cameras over the past several years. Personally, I keep a weather eye out for the nikon versions since I am so impressed with my 90/3.5 and I would not hesitate to try any of their Voigt branded lenses.
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Orio
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Posted: Thu Oct 18, 2007 9:59 am Post subject: |
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Orio wrote:
So, Iha, how is the Dynarex 135mm?
I expect not too sharp but with excellent bokeh, can you confirm this? _________________ Orio, Administrator
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