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ZeiEizh
Joined: 13 Jul 2010 Posts: 223 Location: Helsinki
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Posted: Wed Jul 14, 2010 8:32 am Post subject: Vivitar 200mm F3.5 |
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ZeiEizh wrote:
Hi
I tried to find Series one for a reasonable prize, but they were quite wanted. So have to manage with that. First impression were easy to focus and enormous close focus distance. I have to buy bigger flat...
Pictures here:
http://zeieizh.kuvat.fi/kuvat/Vivitar+200mm+f3,5/
There are full 15mpix picture under the link "näytä alkuperäinen kuva". It's Finnish and means "show original picture". |
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Big Dawg
Joined: 28 Jan 2009 Posts: 2530 Location: Thach Alabama
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Posted: Thu Jul 15, 2010 4:53 am Post subject: |
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Big Dawg wrote:
I have several Vivitar 200 f/3.5's and they are all good performers. Very well built and quite sharp from 4.0 and up. _________________ Big Dawg |
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ZeiEizh
Joined: 13 Jul 2010 Posts: 223 Location: Helsinki
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Posted: Thu Jul 15, 2010 11:58 am Post subject: |
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ZeiEizh wrote:
I were outside and took lot's of pictures with it. Solid performer. Not top, but easy and feels good in hand. I may suffer from EOS adapter.
Every image ISO400 and F8
As a compairing, Sigma 28mm EF DG 1:2 macro f1.8. ISO400, f5
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Big Dawg
Joined: 28 Jan 2009 Posts: 2530 Location: Thach Alabama
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Posted: Fri Jul 16, 2010 3:53 pm Post subject: |
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Big Dawg wrote:
Very nice indeed. _________________ Big Dawg |
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ZeiEizh
Joined: 13 Jul 2010 Posts: 223 Location: Helsinki
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Posted: Fri Jul 16, 2010 5:57 pm Post subject: |
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ZeiEizh wrote:
Thank you, Big Dawg.
Two more, with 50mm adding.
_________________ BODY:Canon 5DII
AF-LENS: Tokina 80-400 AT-X D f4,5-5,6; Tokina 100 AT-X Macro f2,8; Sigma 28mm EF DG 1:2 Macro f1.8;
MF-LENS: Mamiya Sekor EF 50mm f1,7; Vivitar 200mm f3,5; MTO ZM-5A 500mm f8 mirror. Rikenon XR 50 F2; Rikenon XR 135 F2,8 |
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cooltouch
Joined: 15 Jan 2009 Posts: 9096 Location: Houston, Texas
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Posted: Fri Jul 16, 2010 6:11 pm Post subject: |
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cooltouch wrote:
I have a Vivitar 200mm f/3.5 almost identical to the one in your first photo -- even Canon FD mount. It is a very well made lens, big and heavy. I've tested it out and compared it with my Canon New FD 200mm f/4 -- a tack-sharp optic that often goes overlooked cuz it's "only" an f/4 -- and it is on par with the Canon.
I see you have it mounted to an EOS with the FD-EOS adapter. Does your adapter have the glass element? Were these pics taken with that adapter? i have one with the element, and I've found it actually works quite well with lenses that are at least f/2.8 and slower. Not very well at all with fast lenses -- lots of flare. My adapter's glass element is removable, but I haven't yet used it without the glass. Probably should give it a try, cuz I'll likely be able to do some nice macro work with it. _________________ Michael
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ZeiEizh
Joined: 13 Jul 2010 Posts: 223 Location: Helsinki
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Posted: Fri Jul 16, 2010 6:45 pm Post subject: |
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ZeiEizh wrote:
Hi cooltouch
Yes, It does have a glass element. And pictures were taken with it.
I have to find and try that Canon prime also. _________________ BODY:Canon 5DII
AF-LENS: Tokina 80-400 AT-X D f4,5-5,6; Tokina 100 AT-X Macro f2,8; Sigma 28mm EF DG 1:2 Macro f1.8;
MF-LENS: Mamiya Sekor EF 50mm f1,7; Vivitar 200mm f3,5; MTO ZM-5A 500mm f8 mirror. Rikenon XR 50 F2; Rikenon XR 135 F2,8 |
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RioRico
Joined: 12 Mar 2010 Posts: 1120 Location: California or Guatemala or somewhere
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Posted: Fri Jul 16, 2010 9:07 pm Post subject: |
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RioRico wrote:
A rather different Tele Vivitar 200/3.5, T1 mount with M42 adapter, preset aperture with 18 iris blades, weighs 640g, a solid chunk of steel and glass:
Those 18 blades give it bookoo bokeh, but if the OOF background contains point lights or reflections, they turn into glowing circles. Oh yeah, close focus is about 3.5m / 11 feet. Filter diameter is 67mm.
Anyway, I've seen references to many varieties of Vivitar 200/3.5 glass, but none to this particular version. Does anyone here know about its vintage and make? _________________ Too many film+digi cams+lenses, oh my -- Pentax K20D, K-1000, M42s, more
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Big Dawg
Joined: 28 Jan 2009 Posts: 2530 Location: Thach Alabama
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Posted: Sat Jul 17, 2010 6:05 pm Post subject: |
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Big Dawg wrote:
I'll have to gatherr my 200 3.5's up and photograph them. The jury is still out on who made the 200mm preset ones. Some with a serial number starting with 6 are thought to be Olympus made. Some of the others may be made by any of the many lens makers of the day. _________________ Big Dawg |
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francotirador
Joined: 17 Sep 2009 Posts: 894
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Posted: Mon Jul 19, 2010 1:10 am Post subject: |
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francotirador wrote:
Hello. ZeiEizh.
That serial number is your lens? Or if you know fact that factory? _________________ Canon 5D II-Sony nex 6
Canon L 80-200 f 2.8 - Canon L 135 f2 - Canon FD 135/2.5 convert to EOS - Yashica 50 1.4 ML - Canon FD 50 1.2 - Distagon 35mm 2.8 T AEJ - Minolta MC 24mm f 2.8 - Canon LTM 85 1.9- Canon LTM 85mm 1.9 convert to EOS - Rodenstock Heligon 50 1.9 - Color Skopar 50 2.8 & MAte Box & filters 4X4
Contax RTS II y Minolta SRT 303 - 28-135 3.6 Tokina - Minolta MD 45 f2.0 - Minolta Zoom 80 200 4.5 (Leica)
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Big Dawg
Joined: 28 Jan 2009 Posts: 2530 Location: Thach Alabama
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Posted: Mon Jul 19, 2010 1:33 am Post subject: |
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Big Dawg wrote:
A few of my 200mm f/3.5 Vivitars.
Out of time. More to come later. _________________ Big Dawg |
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Blue
Joined: 26 Jul 2008 Posts: 304
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Posted: Mon Jul 19, 2010 2:01 am Post subject: |
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Blue wrote:
I have a Kino/Kiron made Auto Tele 200mm/3.5 that is a nice lens. My lens was likely made in 1979 or 1989. The only thing is it has 6 blades. _________________ Pentax: K, H2, H3, S3, SV (late & early), SV black, Spot F, K2 chrome, K2 black, ME F, SuperProgram, 6x7, Auto 110, Asahiflex IIB late
Pentax "modern": MZ-3, *istD, K200d, K20d
Mamiya: C3 TLR, NC1000
Canon: EOS 10s, AE-1
Chinon: CP-7m
IKON: Contax D, Praktiflex FX & Victar 50mm f2.9
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Blue
Joined: 26 Jul 2008 Posts: 304
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Posted: Mon Jul 19, 2010 2:22 am Post subject: |
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Blue wrote:
This will help on Vivitar 35mm slr lenses manufactured from 1970-1990.
http://cameraquest.com/VivLensManuf.htm
It won't help much on the older T stuff and the presets. _________________ Pentax: K, H2, H3, S3, SV (late & early), SV black, Spot F, K2 chrome, K2 black, ME F, SuperProgram, 6x7, Auto 110, Asahiflex IIB late
Pentax "modern": MZ-3, *istD, K200d, K20d
Mamiya: C3 TLR, NC1000
Canon: EOS 10s, AE-1
Chinon: CP-7m
IKON: Contax D, Praktiflex FX & Victar 50mm f2.9
Contessa-Nettel Piccolette - 7.5 cm Tessar & Compur shutter
Rangefinders: Argus C4 and Ricoh Five-One-Nine |
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ZeiEizh
Joined: 13 Jul 2010 Posts: 223 Location: Helsinki
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Posted: Mon Jul 19, 2010 6:49 am Post subject: |
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ZeiEizh wrote:
Hi Francotirador
I don't know the maker, but serial is... 28823157. 62mm thread.
I were shooting planes at EFHK. Weather was very sunny and warm. My pictures wend somehow hazy and had very much flare. Sharpness were acceptable, but whole outcome was very odd.
_________________ BODY:Canon 5DII
AF-LENS: Tokina 80-400 AT-X D f4,5-5,6; Tokina 100 AT-X Macro f2,8; Sigma 28mm EF DG 1:2 Macro f1.8;
MF-LENS: Mamiya Sekor EF 50mm f1,7; Vivitar 200mm f3,5; MTO ZM-5A 500mm f8 mirror. Rikenon XR 50 F2; Rikenon XR 135 F2,8 |
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ManualFocus-G
Joined: 29 Dec 2008 Posts: 6622 Location: United Kingdom
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Posted: Mon Jul 19, 2010 7:03 am Post subject: |
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ManualFocus-G wrote:
RioRico wrote: |
A rather different Tele Vivitar 200/3.5, T1 mount with M42 adapter, preset aperture with 18 iris blades, weighs 640g, a solid chunk of steel and glass:
Those 18 blades give it bookoo bokeh, but if the OOF background contains point lights or reflections, they turn into glowing circles. Oh yeah, close focus is about 3.5m / 11 feet. Filter diameter is 67mm.
Anyway, I've seen references to many varieties of Vivitar 200/3.5 glass, but none to this particular version. Does anyone here know about its vintage and make? |
This is the same style as my Vivitar 85/1.8, interesting (see monkey thread), interesting! _________________ Graham - Moderator
Shooter of choice: Fujifilm X-T20 with M42, PB and C/Y lenses
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Blue
Joined: 26 Jul 2008 Posts: 304
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Posted: Mon Jul 19, 2010 1:50 pm Post subject: |
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Blue wrote:
ZeiEizh wrote: |
Hi Francotirador
I don't know the maker, but serial is... 28823157. 62mm thread.
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Based on the serial #, Komine made it in either 1978 or 1988. _________________ Pentax: K, H2, H3, S3, SV (late & early), SV black, Spot F, K2 chrome, K2 black, ME F, SuperProgram, 6x7, Auto 110, Asahiflex IIB late
Pentax "modern": MZ-3, *istD, K200d, K20d
Mamiya: C3 TLR, NC1000
Canon: EOS 10s, AE-1
Chinon: CP-7m
IKON: Contax D, Praktiflex FX & Victar 50mm f2.9
Contessa-Nettel Piccolette - 7.5 cm Tessar & Compur shutter
Rangefinders: Argus C4 and Ricoh Five-One-Nine |
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francotirador
Joined: 17 Sep 2009 Posts: 894
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Posted: Mon Jul 19, 2010 3:36 pm Post subject: |
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francotirador wrote:
[quote="ZeiEizh"]Hi Francotirador
I don't know the maker, but serial is... 28823157. 62mm thread.
I were shooting planes at EFHK. Weather was very sunny and warm. My pictures wend somehow hazy and had very much flare. Sharpness were acceptable, but whole outcome was very odd.
Those who begin with 28, are made by Komine. They say that it is the best of all.
You lose quality lens on the adapter with glass.
A 200mm should enable the change of mount, removing 2mm.
Congrats. _________________ Canon 5D II-Sony nex 6
Canon L 80-200 f 2.8 - Canon L 135 f2 - Canon FD 135/2.5 convert to EOS - Yashica 50 1.4 ML - Canon FD 50 1.2 - Distagon 35mm 2.8 T AEJ - Minolta MC 24mm f 2.8 - Canon LTM 85 1.9- Canon LTM 85mm 1.9 convert to EOS - Rodenstock Heligon 50 1.9 - Color Skopar 50 2.8 & MAte Box & filters 4X4
Contax RTS II y Minolta SRT 303 - 28-135 3.6 Tokina - Minolta MD 45 f2.0 - Minolta Zoom 80 200 4.5 (Leica)
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ZeiEizh
Joined: 13 Jul 2010 Posts: 223 Location: Helsinki
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Posted: Mon Jul 19, 2010 9:11 pm Post subject: |
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ZeiEizh wrote:
francotirador wrote: |
You lose quality lens on the adapter with glass.
A 200mm should enable the change of mount, removing 2mm.
Congrats. |
Hi Francotirador
I wondered that too.
What do you mean by mount change? Back-lens closer to sensor, but how? Buying one without lens?
500mm goes way over infinity. _________________ BODY:Canon 5DII
AF-LENS: Tokina 80-400 AT-X D f4,5-5,6; Tokina 100 AT-X Macro f2,8; Sigma 28mm EF DG 1:2 Macro f1.8;
MF-LENS: Mamiya Sekor EF 50mm f1,7; Vivitar 200mm f3,5; MTO ZM-5A 500mm f8 mirror. Rikenon XR 50 F2; Rikenon XR 135 F2,8 |
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francotirador
Joined: 17 Sep 2009 Posts: 894
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Posted: Mon Jul 19, 2010 9:48 pm Post subject: |
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francotirador wrote:
Hello, you can not buy one without glass.
You must replace the mount. Canon FD, has a separation of 42mm, mount sensor. EOS works at 44mm distance, sensor mount
It is a job to do with a lathe. But I think that will have great difference.
Greetings _________________ Canon 5D II-Sony nex 6
Canon L 80-200 f 2.8 - Canon L 135 f2 - Canon FD 135/2.5 convert to EOS - Yashica 50 1.4 ML - Canon FD 50 1.2 - Distagon 35mm 2.8 T AEJ - Minolta MC 24mm f 2.8 - Canon LTM 85 1.9- Canon LTM 85mm 1.9 convert to EOS - Rodenstock Heligon 50 1.9 - Color Skopar 50 2.8 & MAte Box & filters 4X4
Contax RTS II y Minolta SRT 303 - 28-135 3.6 Tokina - Minolta MD 45 f2.0 - Minolta Zoom 80 200 4.5 (Leica)
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ZeiEizh
Joined: 13 Jul 2010 Posts: 223 Location: Helsinki
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Posted: Mon Jul 19, 2010 10:10 pm Post subject: |
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ZeiEizh wrote:
Hi
I can buy it without lense and loose infinity until I figure out how to drop lens 2mm.
FEX=
http://www.enjoyyourcamera.com/Canon-Accessories/Lens-Mount-Adapter-Ring-without-compensation-lens-for-Canon-FD-on-Canon-EOS::652.html
Have to think it first. _________________ BODY:Canon 5DII
AF-LENS: Tokina 80-400 AT-X D f4,5-5,6; Tokina 100 AT-X Macro f2,8; Sigma 28mm EF DG 1:2 Macro f1.8;
MF-LENS: Mamiya Sekor EF 50mm f1,7; Vivitar 200mm f3,5; MTO ZM-5A 500mm f8 mirror. Rikenon XR 50 F2; Rikenon XR 135 F2,8 |
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francotirador
Joined: 17 Sep 2009 Posts: 894
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Posted: Mon Jul 19, 2010 11:06 pm Post subject: |
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francotirador wrote:
But you can never approach infinity, Macro you can only do.
Anyway to test the quality, if you can get the glass to your adapter will be the same.
Greetings. _________________ Canon 5D II-Sony nex 6
Canon L 80-200 f 2.8 - Canon L 135 f2 - Canon FD 135/2.5 convert to EOS - Yashica 50 1.4 ML - Canon FD 50 1.2 - Distagon 35mm 2.8 T AEJ - Minolta MC 24mm f 2.8 - Canon LTM 85 1.9- Canon LTM 85mm 1.9 convert to EOS - Rodenstock Heligon 50 1.9 - Color Skopar 50 2.8 & MAte Box & filters 4X4
Contax RTS II y Minolta SRT 303 - 28-135 3.6 Tokina - Minolta MD 45 f2.0 - Minolta Zoom 80 200 4.5 (Leica)
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ZeiEizh
Joined: 13 Jul 2010 Posts: 223 Location: Helsinki
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Posted: Mon Jul 19, 2010 11:36 pm Post subject: |
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ZeiEizh wrote:
Hi
I'll test and go to buy a body cap, from where I start modification.
I'll put photos here, let's see then.
Thanks. _________________ BODY:Canon 5DII
AF-LENS: Tokina 80-400 AT-X D f4,5-5,6; Tokina 100 AT-X Macro f2,8; Sigma 28mm EF DG 1:2 Macro f1.8;
MF-LENS: Mamiya Sekor EF 50mm f1,7; Vivitar 200mm f3,5; MTO ZM-5A 500mm f8 mirror. Rikenon XR 50 F2; Rikenon XR 135 F2,8 |
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francotirador
Joined: 17 Sep 2009 Posts: 894
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Posted: Tue Jul 20, 2010 4:57 pm Post subject: |
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francotirador wrote:
Try out backlit, to see if there is less chromatic aberration and better highlights.
Greetings _________________ Canon 5D II-Sony nex 6
Canon L 80-200 f 2.8 - Canon L 135 f2 - Canon FD 135/2.5 convert to EOS - Yashica 50 1.4 ML - Canon FD 50 1.2 - Distagon 35mm 2.8 T AEJ - Minolta MC 24mm f 2.8 - Canon LTM 85 1.9- Canon LTM 85mm 1.9 convert to EOS - Rodenstock Heligon 50 1.9 - Color Skopar 50 2.8 & MAte Box & filters 4X4
Contax RTS II y Minolta SRT 303 - 28-135 3.6 Tokina - Minolta MD 45 f2.0 - Minolta Zoom 80 200 4.5 (Leica)
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ZeiEizh
Joined: 13 Jul 2010 Posts: 223 Location: Helsinki
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Posted: Wed Jul 21, 2010 7:31 pm Post subject: |
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ZeiEizh wrote:
This is how much MY adapter affects. Both pictures from same distance, but hand held, and same apertures etc. F5,6; ISO400; 1/40sek.
With adapter on:
Without adapter:
_________________ BODY:Canon 5DII
AF-LENS: Tokina 80-400 AT-X D f4,5-5,6; Tokina 100 AT-X Macro f2,8; Sigma 28mm EF DG 1:2 Macro f1.8;
MF-LENS: Mamiya Sekor EF 50mm f1,7; Vivitar 200mm f3,5; MTO ZM-5A 500mm f8 mirror. Rikenon XR 50 F2; Rikenon XR 135 F2,8 |
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francotirador
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Posted: Wed Jul 21, 2010 7:48 pm Post subject: |
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francotirador wrote:
Big difference, right?
Explore if there is less chromatic aberration, I think there should be less.
Good luck with the tests. _________________ Canon 5D II-Sony nex 6
Canon L 80-200 f 2.8 - Canon L 135 f2 - Canon FD 135/2.5 convert to EOS - Yashica 50 1.4 ML - Canon FD 50 1.2 - Distagon 35mm 2.8 T AEJ - Minolta MC 24mm f 2.8 - Canon LTM 85 1.9- Canon LTM 85mm 1.9 convert to EOS - Rodenstock Heligon 50 1.9 - Color Skopar 50 2.8 & MAte Box & filters 4X4
Contax RTS II y Minolta SRT 303 - 28-135 3.6 Tokina - Minolta MD 45 f2.0 - Minolta Zoom 80 200 4.5 (Leica)
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