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Esox lucius
Joined: 26 Aug 2008 Posts: 2441 Location: Helsinki, Finland
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Posted: Thu Apr 22, 2010 8:02 pm Post subject: Vivitar 135mm f/1.5 T-mount (converted to Nikon/Ai-S) |
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Esox lucius wrote:
Yes, 135/1.5 - it's not a typo.
This is a very interesting lens. It is on loan to me and I have no other interest in the lens than pure utter curiosity. All the Google hits I can find about the lens type happen to reveal the previous history of this particular copy: I can verify it's history, previous owners etc. by tracking posts with this copy's serial number.
Crazy lens: Best information available estimates total production at only 30 copies. It is weighs 2.2kg and is overall a huge beast even mounted on the large sized Nikon D3. The diaphragm is quite interesting as it from widest to smallest aperture the diaphragm shape changes from a smooth circle to a 16-star, then circle and finally a polygon. 16 aperture blades.
It has two aperture control rings: one for click-stops and one for stepless aperture control. Focusing is slow and precise, 340 degrees from near focus (about 1.8m) to infinity.
Here are two links to info about the lens type
http://www.fredmiranda.com/forum/topic/823877/0
http://www.nikonians.org/forums/dcboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=219&topic_id=1001&mode=full
Here it is, portrayed mounted on a Nikon D3 and also in the company of the Zeiss 85/1.4 ZF (which looks like a dwarf)
Weather forecast is rainy, but sample pics are sure to follow once I've cleared higher priority to-do things (read: work I can invoice) _________________ Vilhelm
Nikon DSLR: D4, D800, Nikon D3, D70
Nikon SLR: Nikon F100, Nikon FM2n
Nikkor MF: 20/2.8 Ai-S, 24/2 Ai-S, 24/2.8 Ai-S, 28/2 Ai-S, 28/2.8 Ai-S, 35/1.4 AIS, 35/2 Ai-S, 45/2.8 GN, 50/1.2 Ai, 50/1.2 Ai-S, 50/1.4 Ai, 50/1.4 Ai-S, 50/1.8 AI-S "long", 50/1.8 AI-S "short", 55/1.2 Ai, 85/1.4 Ai-S, 85/1.8H, 105/2.5 Ai, 135/2.8Q, 135/3.5 Ai, 180/2.8 Ai-S ED
Nikkor AF/AF-S FX: 14-24/2.8G, 16/2.8D Fisheye, 16-35/4G VR, 17-35/2.8D, 24/1.4G, 24/3.5D PC-E, 24/2.8D, 24-70/2.8G, 28/1.4D, 28/1.8G, 35/1.4G, 35/2D, 50/1.4D, 50/1.4G, 50/1.8G, 60/2.8 Micro, 60/2.8G Micro, 70-200/2.8G VR, 70-200/2.8G VR II, 80-400/4.5-5.6D VR, 85/1.4G, 85/2.8D PC-E Micro, 105/2D DC, 105/2.8G VR Micro, 135/2D DC, 200/2G VR, 200-400/4G VR, 300/2.8G VR, 300/4D ED, 400/2.8G VR, 800/5.6E VR
Nikkor AF/AF-S DX: 10.5/2.8G Fisheye, 12-24/4G, 18-70/3.5-4.5G
Topcor: Auto-Topcor 58/1.4,
Voigtländer SL: 40/2 Ultron, 58/1.4 Nokton, 75/2.5 Color-Heliar, 90/3.5 APO-Lanthar, 125/2.5 APO-Lanthar, 180/4 APO-Lanthar
Zeiss ZF: Planar T* 85/1.4 ZF
M42 SLR: Voigtländer Bessaflex TM
M42: Flektogon 20/4, Flektogon 35/2.4, Tessar 50/2.8 T, Super-Takumar 55/1.8, Biotar 58/2 T, Pentacon 135/2.8, Sonnar 135/3.5
Medium format: several Zeiss Super Ikonta 532/16 Opton-Tessar 80mm f/2.8, Zeiss Ikonta 524/16 Opton-Tessar 75mm f/3.5
Leica: R7, M4, Super-Angulon-R 4/21, Elmarit-R 2.8/28, Summicron-R 2/35, Summicron-M 2/35, Summicron-M 2/50, Elmarit-R 2,8/180
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seta666
Joined: 07 Apr 2010 Posts: 144 Location: Castellon, Spain
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Posted: Thu Apr 22, 2010 8:05 pm Post subject: |
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seta666 wrote:
Pufffff!!!! And people call the helios 40 a tank...... _________________ Canon 5D, EF 100/2.8 Macro, Samyang 8/3.5, Zenit 11, M42 Zenitar 16/2.8, M42 tokina RMC 17/3.5, M42 mir-20 20/3.5 , M42 Fujinon W EBC 35/2.8, M42 industar 50-2 50/3.5, M42 Helios 44M-6 58/2, M42 Helios 40 85/1.5, M42 Cyclop 85/1.5, M42 Jupiter-9 85/2, Yashica FX-D quartz, C/Y Yashica ML 24/2.8, C/Y Yashica ML 28/2.8, C/Y yashica ML 35/2.8, C/Y Yashica ML 50/1.4, C/Y Yashica ML 50/1.7, Canon auto bellows, novoflex m42 bellows, Wollensak mikroraptar 50/3.5, Leitz milar 65/4.5, leitz summar 35mm, summar 65/4.5, summar 120mm 4.5, Canon 500D close-up lens, Raynox DCR-250 +9, Raynox MSN-202 +20, Flash Sunpak RD-2000, Flash metz 20 c-2
berlebach mini tripod, manfrotto 410 junior
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Attila
Joined: 24 Feb 2007 Posts: 57849 Location: Hungary
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Posted: Thu Apr 22, 2010 8:06 pm Post subject: |
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Attila wrote:
Huge guy ! I look forward your shoots taken with this lens. _________________ -------------------------------
Items on sale on Ebay
Sony NEX-7 Carl Zeiss Planar 85mm f1.4, Minolta MD 35mm f1.8, Konica 135mm f2.5, Minolta MD 50mm f1.2, Minolta MD 250mm f5.6, Carl Zeiss Sonnar 180mm f2.8
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ogniw
Joined: 12 Apr 2010 Posts: 38 Location: Germany
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Posted: Thu Apr 22, 2010 10:19 pm Post subject: |
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ogniw wrote:
1.5 at 135mm is heavy artillery, as shown by your pictures of the lens. Would be glad, to see some pictures, you took with this lens mounted to FX.
Ingo _________________ Nikkor AIS 24mm/2.8, 50mm/1.2, 50mm/1.8, 85mm/1.4, 105mm/1.8, 135mm/2.8
Nikkor AI 200mm/4.0
Rodenstock Apo-Rodagon 105mm/4.0
Novoflex 60mm/4.0, 105mm/4.0 |
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kds315*
Joined: 12 Mar 2008 Posts: 16541 Location: Weinheim, Germany
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Posted: Thu Apr 22, 2010 11:28 pm Post subject: |
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kds315* wrote:
Quite a beast Vilhelm. I wonder how it performs. I saw one at arsenal, he wants $2.5k for it.... _________________ Klaus - Admin
"S'il vient a point, me souviendra" [Thomas Bohier (1460-1523)]
http://www.macrolenses.de for macro and special lens info
http://www.pbase.com/kds315/uv_photos for UV Images and lens/filter info
https://www.flickr.com/photos/kds315/albums my albums using various lenses
http://photographyoftheinvisibleworld.blogspot.com/ my UV BLOG
http://www.travelmeetsfood.com/blog Food + Travel BLOG
https://galeriafotografia.com Architecture + Drone photography
Currently most FAV lens(es):
X80QF f3.2/80mm
Hypergon f11/26mm
ELCAN UV f5.6/52mm
Zeiss UV-Planar f4/60mm
Zeiss UV-Planar f2/62mm
Lomo Уфар-12 f2.5/41mm
Lomo Зуфар-2 f4.0/350mm
Lomo ZIKAR-1A f1.2/100mm
Nikon UV Nikkor f4.5/105mm
Zeiss UV-Sonnar f4.3/105mm
CERCO UV-VIS-NIR f1.8/45mm
CERCO UV-VIS-NIR f4.1/94mm
CERCO UV-VIS-NIR f2.8/100mm
Steinheil Quarzobjektiv f1.8/50mm
Pentax Quartz Takumar f3.5/85mm
Carl Zeiss Jena UV-Objektiv f4/60mm
NYE OPTICAL Lyman-Alpha II f1.1/90mm
NYE OPTICAL Lyman-Alpha I f2.8/200mm
COASTAL OPTICS f4/60mm UV-VIS-IR Apo
COASTAL OPTICS f4.5/105mm UV-Micro-Apo
Pentax Ultra-Achromatic Takumar f4.5/85mm
Pentax Ultra-Achromatic Takumar f5.6/300mm
Rodenstock UV-Rodagon f5.6/60mm + 105mm + 150mm
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Attila
Joined: 24 Feb 2007 Posts: 57849 Location: Hungary
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Posted: Thu Apr 22, 2010 11:34 pm Post subject: |
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Attila wrote:
kds315* wrote: |
Quite a beast Vilhelm. I wonder how it performs. I saw one at arsenal, he wants $2.5k for it.... |
As I know this lens is pretty unusable at wide open and if we can't use well at wide open no reason to use at all So I am curious ... Best fast 135mm lens what I ever seen that is Carl Zeiss 135mm f2 Orio have it that is sharp at every aperture. _________________ -------------------------------
Items on sale on Ebay
Sony NEX-7 Carl Zeiss Planar 85mm f1.4, Minolta MD 35mm f1.8, Konica 135mm f2.5, Minolta MD 50mm f1.2, Minolta MD 250mm f5.6, Carl Zeiss Sonnar 180mm f2.8
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RioRico
Joined: 12 Mar 2010 Posts: 1120 Location: California or Guatemala or somewhere
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Posted: Fri Apr 23, 2010 10:00 am Post subject: |
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RioRico wrote:
Attila wrote: |
As I know this lens is pretty unusable at wide open and if we can't use well at wide open no reason to use at all |
Easy answer: buy a Pentax dSLR. Enable Catch-In-Focus. Mount the lens; prefocus (wide open!) somewhere you expect something to happen. Hold down the shutter button. When something comes into focus, shutter trips. VOILA! Perfect picture!
Even better: enable CIF, set Drive Mode to Continuous. Attach latching shutter cable. Mount camera+lens on tripod, aim/focus somewhere you expect several things to happen. Latch the shutter remote. Now whenever something comes into focus there, camera goes SNAP! And then SNAP again! Excellent for shooting birds, bicyclists, bathing beauties, burglars, etc. _________________ Too many film+digi cams+lenses, oh my -- Pentax K20D, K-1000, M42s, more
The simple truth is this: There are no neutral photographs. --F-Stop Fitzgerald |
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Esox lucius
Joined: 26 Aug 2008 Posts: 2441 Location: Helsinki, Finland
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Posted: Fri Apr 23, 2010 10:50 am Post subject: |
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Esox lucius wrote:
No surprises here, plenty of color aberrations and detail wide open is modest. Then again, I doubt the lens was designed for close up document copying, it could be a totally different story outdoors and focused at subjects further away.
Circumstances did not allow better setup, and field use is going to have to wait for the weekend (it's raining now). Uploaded in original size, I have manually fixed EXIF data for every exposure so you can read what aperture was used.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/mureena/sets/72157623911354462/
You might want to consider downloading them in original size as I doubt I will keep them on my Flickr stream for many weeks. Might post some crops here though, once I get to upload field use examples.
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Attila
Joined: 24 Feb 2007 Posts: 57849 Location: Hungary
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Posted: Fri Apr 23, 2010 10:57 am Post subject: |
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Attila wrote:
RioRico wrote: |
Attila wrote: |
As I know this lens is pretty unusable at wide open and if we can't use well at wide open no reason to use at all |
Easy answer: buy a Pentax dSLR. Enable Catch-In-Focus. Mount the lens; prefocus (wide open!) somewhere you expect something to happen. Hold down the shutter button. When something comes into focus, shutter trips. VOILA! Perfect picture!
Even better: enable CIF, set Drive Mode to Continuous. Attach latching shutter cable. Mount camera+lens on tripod, aim/focus somewhere you expect several things to happen. Latch the shutter remote. Now whenever something comes into focus there, camera goes SNAP! And then SNAP again! Excellent for shooting birds, bicyclists, bathing beauties, burglars, etc. |
I don't think so above method is help if a lens can't make sharp images wide open or can't record enough details. What you wrote down excellent procedure to catch right focus at wide open. _________________ -------------------------------
Items on sale on Ebay
Sony NEX-7 Carl Zeiss Planar 85mm f1.4, Minolta MD 35mm f1.8, Konica 135mm f2.5, Minolta MD 50mm f1.2, Minolta MD 250mm f5.6, Carl Zeiss Sonnar 180mm f2.8
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Attila
Joined: 24 Feb 2007 Posts: 57849 Location: Hungary
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Posted: Fri Apr 23, 2010 11:01 am Post subject: |
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Attila wrote:
Esox lucius wrote: |
No surprises here, plenty of color aberrations and detail wide open is modest. Then again, I doubt the lens was designed for close up document copying, it could be a totally different story outdoors and focused at subjects further away.
Circumstances did not allow better setup, and field use is going to have to wait for the weekend (it's raining now). Uploaded in original size, I have manually fixed EXIF data for every exposure so you can read what aperture was used.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/mureena/sets/72157623911354462/
You might want to consider downloading them in original size as I doubt I will keep them on my Flickr stream for many weeks. Might post some crops here though, once I get to upload field use examples. |
Not too bad indeed, looks more less same than other noname 135mm f1.8. _________________ -------------------------------
Items on sale on Ebay
Sony NEX-7 Carl Zeiss Planar 85mm f1.4, Minolta MD 35mm f1.8, Konica 135mm f2.5, Minolta MD 50mm f1.2, Minolta MD 250mm f5.6, Carl Zeiss Sonnar 180mm f2.8
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keltzar
Joined: 22 Apr 2010 Posts: 70
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Posted: Fri Apr 23, 2010 4:57 pm Post subject: |
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keltzar wrote:
It has two rings because it's a PRE-SET lens. All such lenses have two rings. If you are familiar with vintage zeiss jena lenses, you would see they are similar.
Did not know they only made 30 pieces. i have one of them ... haven't used it in years. Was never very impressed with it... and I certainly don't remember paying US$2.5k for it.
Its not the same as the no-name 135/1.8 (which I also have)... that one is multicoated (well, most of them are but there are slightly diff versions).
Between the two, I usually reach for the 135/1.8 for stage shooting. The f1.5 gets practically no use at all... for a time I even forgot I had it!
BTW, "converted" to nikon is erroneous. T-mounts were interchangeable. I've had both nikon, PK and EOS T-mounts on the vivitar 135/1.5 at different times. |
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PBFACTS
Joined: 24 Dec 2008 Posts: 564
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Posted: Sat Apr 24, 2010 5:05 pm Post subject: |
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PBFACTS wrote:
keltzar wrote: |
Did not know they only made 30 pieces. i have one of them ... haven't used it in years. Was never very impressed with it... and I certainly don't remember paying US$2.5k for it.
Its not the same as the no-name 135/1.8 (which I also have)... that one is multicoated (well, most of them are but there are slightly diff versions).
Between the two, I usually reach for the 135/1.8 for stage shooting. The f1.5 gets practically no use at all... for a time I even forgot I had it!
BTW, "converted" to nikon is erroneous. T-mounts were interchangeable. I've had both nikon, PK and EOS T-mounts on the vivitar 135/1.5 at different times. |
1- Vivitar 135/1.5 was perhaps sold at 30 units but EXACTLY SAME soligor 135/1.5 was sold in relatively large volume
2- Most (but not all) 135/1.8 sold at that period were sigma made
3- Exactly as keltzar, saying that is was converted to nikon ai/s i a pure joke EXCEPT is if changed the internal mecanics for full aperture mesure (would you belived that ?)
4- Contrast is very low at 1.5 means quality ok ONLY if film contrast high (do not forget that the lens was sold at a period where the only high speed films were bw)
5- Willing a 2500€ price for it would mean it would be more expensive than a last generation nikkor ed or canon l ??? .. Another Joke !! _________________ OM USER .. I KEEP/USE:
Om2 sp + T32 (grip/filter/zoom) + T8
+ Zuiko 16mm 3.5 / 55mm 1.2 / 65-200 4/ x1.4
+ Sigma 8mm 4.0 / 14mm 3.5 / 18-35 3.5-4.5
+ Tamron 35/105 2.8
+Tokina 150/500 5.6
+ Kiron 105/2.8 macro 1:1
+ Vivitar S1 90/180 falst field macro
+ 2x Doubler HR7
>>I SELL: OM10 + OM4ti
+ i sell: OM Md1 + Md 2 + Grip PowerPack + charger
+ i sell: OM Zuiko 24mm 2.8 / 28mm 3.5 / 50mm 1.8 / 50mm 1.4 / 50mm 3.5 macro / 35-70 3.6 / 35-105 3.5-4.5 / 75-150 4 / 500mm / 2xA
+ i sell: OM Kiron 28/105 3.2-4.5 / 1.5 converter
+ i sell: OM Makinon reflex 5.6/300 + Spector reflex (makinon) 500mm
+ i sell: OM Macro panagor extender 1:1
+ i sell: OM Sigma 16mm 2.8 fisheye (last version) / 21-35 3.5-4.2 ot/ 28-70 2.8 /1000mm mirror
+ i sell: Tamron 28-70 3.5-4.5 / 28-80 sp 3.5-4.2 / 28-135 sp 4-4.5 / /28-200 3.5 / 35-135 3..5-4.5 / 90mm sp macro 1:1 2.8
+ i sell: OM Soligor 2x doubler / x3 converte
+ i sell: Soligor FisheEye x0.15
+ i sell: OM Tokina 28/135 4-4.6 / 70/210 3.5 (= vivitar S1 v2)
+ i sell: OM Vivitar 28-70 3.5-4.8 / 28-90 s1 2.8-3.5 / 35-70 2.8-3.8 / 55/2.8 Macro 1:1 (komine) / 70-150 3.8 ot (kiron) / 75-150 ot 3.8 (tokina + 2x matched)
+ i sell : OM cosina 100-500 5.6/8 |
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Esox lucius
Joined: 26 Aug 2008 Posts: 2441 Location: Helsinki, Finland
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Posted: Sat Apr 24, 2010 6:13 pm Post subject: |
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Esox lucius wrote:
The mount fits Nikon Ai-S but looks very DIY and is quite roughly hand-drilled to fit using a Dremel or similar. Which is exactly why I wrote converted because it looks less machined than most DIY Nikkor Ai conversions.
Joke... I won't even comment on that. _________________ Vilhelm
Nikon DSLR: D4, D800, Nikon D3, D70
Nikon SLR: Nikon F100, Nikon FM2n
Nikkor MF: 20/2.8 Ai-S, 24/2 Ai-S, 24/2.8 Ai-S, 28/2 Ai-S, 28/2.8 Ai-S, 35/1.4 AIS, 35/2 Ai-S, 45/2.8 GN, 50/1.2 Ai, 50/1.2 Ai-S, 50/1.4 Ai, 50/1.4 Ai-S, 50/1.8 AI-S "long", 50/1.8 AI-S "short", 55/1.2 Ai, 85/1.4 Ai-S, 85/1.8H, 105/2.5 Ai, 135/2.8Q, 135/3.5 Ai, 180/2.8 Ai-S ED
Nikkor AF/AF-S FX: 14-24/2.8G, 16/2.8D Fisheye, 16-35/4G VR, 17-35/2.8D, 24/1.4G, 24/3.5D PC-E, 24/2.8D, 24-70/2.8G, 28/1.4D, 28/1.8G, 35/1.4G, 35/2D, 50/1.4D, 50/1.4G, 50/1.8G, 60/2.8 Micro, 60/2.8G Micro, 70-200/2.8G VR, 70-200/2.8G VR II, 80-400/4.5-5.6D VR, 85/1.4G, 85/2.8D PC-E Micro, 105/2D DC, 105/2.8G VR Micro, 135/2D DC, 200/2G VR, 200-400/4G VR, 300/2.8G VR, 300/4D ED, 400/2.8G VR, 800/5.6E VR
Nikkor AF/AF-S DX: 10.5/2.8G Fisheye, 12-24/4G, 18-70/3.5-4.5G
Topcor: Auto-Topcor 58/1.4,
Voigtländer SL: 40/2 Ultron, 58/1.4 Nokton, 75/2.5 Color-Heliar, 90/3.5 APO-Lanthar, 125/2.5 APO-Lanthar, 180/4 APO-Lanthar
Zeiss ZF: Planar T* 85/1.4 ZF
M42 SLR: Voigtländer Bessaflex TM
M42: Flektogon 20/4, Flektogon 35/2.4, Tessar 50/2.8 T, Super-Takumar 55/1.8, Biotar 58/2 T, Pentacon 135/2.8, Sonnar 135/3.5
Medium format: several Zeiss Super Ikonta 532/16 Opton-Tessar 80mm f/2.8, Zeiss Ikonta 524/16 Opton-Tessar 75mm f/3.5
Leica: R7, M4, Super-Angulon-R 4/21, Elmarit-R 2.8/28, Summicron-R 2/35, Summicron-M 2/35, Summicron-M 2/50, Elmarit-R 2,8/180 |
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estudleon
Joined: 15 May 2008 Posts: 3754 Location: Argentina
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Posted: Sat Apr 24, 2010 7:50 pm Post subject: |
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estudleon wrote:
[quote="PBFACTS"].......2- Most (but not all) 135/1.8 sold at that period were sigma made....../quote]
The old 1,8/135 soligor lens, was a sigma lens too? Do you know that?
Thanks. Rino _________________ Konica 2,8/100
CZJ: 4/20, 2,4/35, 1,8/50 aus jena, 3,5/135MC, Pentacon 1,8/50
Pentax S-M-C-1,4/50
Helios 44-3
Mamiya 2,8/135
Misc. : jupiter 9
Stuff used:
A) SRL
Alpa 10 D - kern macro Switar 1,9/50 -black, Kilffit apochromat 2/100.
Asahi pentax spotmatic super takumar 1,4/50
Contaflex super B tessar 2,8/50 Pro-tessar 115
Leica R3 electronic summicron 2/50 elmarit 2,8/35
Konica Autoreflex 3 (2 black and chrome one), TC, T4. 2,8/24, 3,5/28 not MC and MC, 1,8/40, 1,4/50, 1,7/50 MC and not MC, 1,8/85, 3,2/135, 3,5/135, 4/200
Minolta XG9 2,8/35, 2/45, 3,5/135
Nikkormat FTn 1,4/50, 2,8/135
Fujica ST 801, 605, 705n. 3,5/19, 1,4/50, 1,8/55, 4/85, 3,5/135.
Praktica MTL 5 and a lot of M42 lenses.
Voigtlander. Bessamatic m, bessamatix de luxe, bessamatic cs, ultramatic and ultramatic cs.
Skoparex 3,5/35, skopagon 2/40, skopar 2,8/50, skopar X 2,8/50, super lanthar (out of catalogue) 2,8/50, dinarex 3,4/90, dinarex 4,8/100, super dinarex 4/135, super dinarex 4/200, zoomar 2,8/36-83, portrait lens 0, 1 and 2. Curtagon 4/28 and 2,8/35
Canon AV1, 1,8/50
Rolleiflex SL35 and SL35 E. 2,8/35 angulon, 2,8/35 distagon, 1,4/55 rolleinar, 1,8/50 planar, 4/135 tessar, 2,8/135 rolleinar, x2 rollei, M42 to rollei adap.
Etc.
RF
Yashica Minister III
Voightlander Vito, vitomatic I, Vito C, etc.
Leica M. M2, M3 (d.s.) and M4. Schenider 3,4/21, 2/35 summaron 2,8/35 (with eyes). Summicron 2/35 (8 elements with eyes), 2/35 chrome, 2/35 black, 1,4/35 pre asph and aspheric - old -, 2/40 summicron, 2,8/50 elmar, 2/50 7 elements, 2/50 DR, 2/50 - minolta version, 1,4/50 summilux 1966 version, 1,4/75 summilux, 2/90 large version, 2/90 reduced version of 1987, 2,8/90 elmarit large version, 4/135 elmar. |
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keltzar
Joined: 22 Apr 2010 Posts: 70
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Posted: Sun Apr 25, 2010 1:23 am Post subject: |
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keltzar wrote:
[quote="Esox lucius"]The mount fits Nikon Ai-S but looks very DIY and is quite roughly hand-drilled to fit using a Dremel or similar. Which is exactly why I wrote converted because it looks less machined than most DIY Nikkor Ai conversions.
Joke... I won't even comment on that.[/quote]
I'm going to hazard a comment without re-reading the thread...
The drilled holes you see were in the adapter? If so, these are the setting screw holes which allow you to re-center the lens and lock the adapter in place after mounting the lens so that everthing is right-side up.
Interesting - I've never seen a soligor 135/1.5 ... anyone have a photo? |
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Attila
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Posted: Sun Apr 25, 2010 1:33 am Post subject: |
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Attila wrote:
I am curious too, I heard first time now Soligor 1.5 is exist.. _________________ -------------------------------
Items on sale on Ebay
Sony NEX-7 Carl Zeiss Planar 85mm f1.4, Minolta MD 35mm f1.8, Konica 135mm f2.5, Minolta MD 50mm f1.2, Minolta MD 250mm f5.6, Carl Zeiss Sonnar 180mm f2.8
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Screamin Scott
Joined: 13 Oct 2007 Posts: 1014 Location: Dallas, Georgia USA
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Screamin Scott wrote:
I frequently see a Soligor on eBay for a ridiculous sum....Both Vivitar & Soligor were marketing companies that bought nearly identical products from the same lens makers (Spiratone did as well)...Here's a link to an eBay listing for the Soligor version of this lens
http://cgi.ebay.com/Soligor-f-Nikon-1-5-135mm-Soligor-lens-/250618090962?cmd=ViewItem&pt=Film_Cameras&hash=item3a5a0095d2
And here is another listing for another fast 135 that while not quite as fast, isn't nearly as pricey either...
http://cgi.ebay.com/Nikon-Soligor-135-2-17402598-MINT-/390034061595?cmd=ViewItem&pt=Camera_Lenses&hash=item5acfd7791b _________________ Cameras-Nikon D300, D7100,D610,FE2,FTN ,FT2,N90s, Olympus Pen EP-3 & Olympus OM-D E-M10
Nikkor AF Zooms=28-105/3.5D,28-70/3.5D,35-135/3.5, et al
Nikkor AF //50/1.8,//Nikkor MF//50/2ai,50/1.8ais 50/1.4ai,24/2.8ais,28/2.8ai,28/3.5ai,55microAis/2.8,105/2.5ai,200/4ai,300/4.5ai35-135/3.5Ais,et al
Kiron /Kino made lenses//70-210/4ai,28-105/3.2ai,30-80/3.5ai,Viv 28/2ai,35-85/2.8aiVivS1,105/2.8Ais Dine,24-48/3.8ai VivS1,50-150/3.8aiViv,28-85/2.8aiViv,100/2.8Nai Viv,70-210/3.5Nai Viv,28/2.5ai Viv Komine made Viv//24/2Ais,135/2.8aiCF,28-50/3.5ai,28-90/2.8ai Viv S1,80-200/4.5aiCosina made Viv 19/3.8 Ais...Also Sigma 24/2.8 Ais Tokina made24/2.8ai VivAF Sigma 21-35/3.5,& other lenses... A link to some of my Flickr albums...
https://www.flickr.com/photos/screaminscott/albums |
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Esox lucius
Joined: 26 Aug 2008 Posts: 2441 Location: Helsinki, Finland
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Posted: Sun Apr 25, 2010 8:04 am Post subject: |
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Esox lucius wrote:
keltzar wrote: |
Esox lucius wrote: |
The mount fits Nikon Ai-S but looks very DIY and is quite roughly hand-drilled to fit using a Dremel or similar. Which is exactly why I wrote converted because it looks less machined than most DIY Nikkor Ai conversions. |
The drilled holes you see were in the adapter? If so, these are the setting screw holes which allow you to re-center the lens and lock the adapter in place after mounting the lens so that everthing is right-side up. |
It looks like it's made from several parts stuck together with a total of 6 holes drilled, half of which lack screws. If this is factory work and not a conversion as I initially believed then I am quite happy that most of my experience with photographic equipment has evolved around other brands.
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Attila
Joined: 24 Feb 2007 Posts: 57849 Location: Hungary
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Posted: Sun Apr 25, 2010 12:05 pm Post subject: |
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Attila wrote:
Many thanks! _________________ -------------------------------
Items on sale on Ebay
Sony NEX-7 Carl Zeiss Planar 85mm f1.4, Minolta MD 35mm f1.8, Konica 135mm f2.5, Minolta MD 50mm f1.2, Minolta MD 250mm f5.6, Carl Zeiss Sonnar 180mm f2.8
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keltzar
Joined: 22 Apr 2010 Posts: 70
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Posted: Mon Apr 26, 2010 12:23 am Post subject: |
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keltzar wrote:
[quote=" It looks like it's made from several parts stuck together with a total of 6 holes drilled, half of which lack screws. If this is factory work and not a conversion as I initially believed then I am quite happy that most of my experience with photographic equipment has evolved around other brands.[/quote]
There is some wear and tear on the adapter so its hard to say ... and maybe the quality of this adapter is not the best, but clearly these are centering screws for the center ring in the throat of the adapter. It's not a home-made adapter per-se. |
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keltzar
Joined: 22 Apr 2010 Posts: 70
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Posted: Mon Apr 26, 2010 12:27 am Post subject: |
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keltzar wrote:
Scott:
Interesting soligor. First time I've heard of one.
Looking at the style differences, I would say the one Arsenal has is of a later style... maybe better, but definitely later... and possibly of a diff optical design.
The fine knurling on focus rings came later than rough knurling from my observation, and the use of synthetic rubber etc. even later.
I think the soligor f1.5 is probably late 1970s ? |
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PBFACTS
Joined: 24 Dec 2008 Posts: 564
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Posted: Mon Apr 26, 2010 5:04 pm Post subject: |
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PBFACTS wrote:
keltzar wrote: |
Looking at the style differences, I would say the one Arsenal has is of a later style... maybe better, but definitely later... and possibly of a diff optical design.
I think the soligor f1.5 is probably late 1970s ? |
The Soligor "Arsenal" version has the usual vivitar styling of that period and the "Esox lucius" version has the usual soligor styling of that period (and the soligor look i know for this lens) !!!!
The 135-1.5 is a 1968/1969 lens
This is the Tokina made Soligor C/D 1975-1976
Quality good, full aperture low (but much better than the 135/1.5
Volume/weight ok
435$ Price still silly (not worth) ! _________________ OM USER .. I KEEP/USE:
Om2 sp + T32 (grip/filter/zoom) + T8
+ Zuiko 16mm 3.5 / 55mm 1.2 / 65-200 4/ x1.4
+ Sigma 8mm 4.0 / 14mm 3.5 / 18-35 3.5-4.5
+ Tamron 35/105 2.8
+Tokina 150/500 5.6
+ Kiron 105/2.8 macro 1:1
+ Vivitar S1 90/180 falst field macro
+ 2x Doubler HR7
>>I SELL: OM10 + OM4ti
+ i sell: OM Md1 + Md 2 + Grip PowerPack + charger
+ i sell: OM Zuiko 24mm 2.8 / 28mm 3.5 / 50mm 1.8 / 50mm 1.4 / 50mm 3.5 macro / 35-70 3.6 / 35-105 3.5-4.5 / 75-150 4 / 500mm / 2xA
+ i sell: OM Kiron 28/105 3.2-4.5 / 1.5 converter
+ i sell: OM Makinon reflex 5.6/300 + Spector reflex (makinon) 500mm
+ i sell: OM Macro panagor extender 1:1
+ i sell: OM Sigma 16mm 2.8 fisheye (last version) / 21-35 3.5-4.2 ot/ 28-70 2.8 /1000mm mirror
+ i sell: Tamron 28-70 3.5-4.5 / 28-80 sp 3.5-4.2 / 28-135 sp 4-4.5 / /28-200 3.5 / 35-135 3..5-4.5 / 90mm sp macro 1:1 2.8
+ i sell: OM Soligor 2x doubler / x3 converte
+ i sell: Soligor FisheEye x0.15
+ i sell: OM Tokina 28/135 4-4.6 / 70/210 3.5 (= vivitar S1 v2)
+ i sell: OM Vivitar 28-70 3.5-4.8 / 28-90 s1 2.8-3.5 / 35-70 2.8-3.8 / 55/2.8 Macro 1:1 (komine) / 70-150 3.8 ot (kiron) / 75-150 ot 3.8 (tokina + 2x matched)
+ i sell : OM cosina 100-500 5.6/8 |
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Attila
Joined: 24 Feb 2007 Posts: 57849 Location: Hungary
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Posted: Mon Apr 26, 2010 5:12 pm Post subject: |
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Attila wrote:
Both sellers well known from at least double prices.. _________________ -------------------------------
Items on sale on Ebay
Sony NEX-7 Carl Zeiss Planar 85mm f1.4, Minolta MD 35mm f1.8, Konica 135mm f2.5, Minolta MD 50mm f1.2, Minolta MD 250mm f5.6, Carl Zeiss Sonnar 180mm f2.8
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