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Nesster
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 Posted: Sun Sep 14, 2008 4:47 pm Post subject: Tele-Takumar 200mm f/5.6 |
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Nesster wrote:
This was today's camera show find, a pocket 200mm tele! Some quick shooting shows the lens to have the usual Takumar quality: sharp and good color right from wide open... such as it is. Mfortytwo says this lens is from 1958 or a bit later, the later ones had the Tele-Takumar name.
Compared to a couple of monster teles: Vivitar T4 200/3.5 and Tamron 103a 80-210 adaptall
Our cat Tiki
And a 100% crop:
I shot them all wide open.
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Attila
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| Posted: Sun Sep 14, 2008 6:09 pm Post subject: |
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Attila wrote:
Cute cat ! I don't like lens sharpness, pretty weak compare this an 200mm f5.6 , I not like much old Takumars that is also true. Sorry for my straight opinion.
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| Posted: Sun Sep 14, 2008 8:06 pm Post subject: |
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Nesster wrote:
No problem Attila, I like it for the age and size, not necessarily for sharpness. Though it manages.
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Attila wrote:
This is very nice from you, not many people respect lenses due for ages only. I am rescued also so many old lenses just for this reason.
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Séamuis
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| Posted: Sun Sep 14, 2008 10:17 pm Post subject: |
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Séamuis wrote:
I imagine the Tak is actually very sharp, just misfocus in these photos. I love this lens because its size. like all pentax lenses old and new they are smaller, lighter weight and easier to handle than lenses from other manufacturers. something the Asahi Optical Co. has always been known for engineering. how they managed to get so many lenses especially some tele's to have 49mm threads is beyond me. thats a pre-set aperture lens isn't it? very cool.
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Fish-Eye -- Fish-Eye-Takumar 1:11/18
WideAngle -- Super-Takumar 1:3.5/28, Auto-Takumar 1:2.3/35, Auto-Takumar 1:3.5/35, Super-Takumar 1:3.5/35
Normal -- S-M-C Takumar 1:1.4/50, Auto-Takumar 1:1.8/55, Super-Takumar 1:1.8/55, S-M-C Takumar 1:1.8/55, SMC Takumar 1:1.8/55, Auto-Takumar 1:2/55
TeleType -- S-M-C Takumar 1:1.8/85, S-M-C Takumar 1:2.8/105, Super-Takumar 1:3.5/135, Tele-Takumar 1:6.3/300
Zoom -- Super Takumar-Zoom 1:4.5/70~150
Macro -- Macro-Takumar 1:4/50, S-M-C Macro-Takumar 1:4/100, Bellows-Takumar 1:4/100
Medium Format -- S-M-C Takumar 6X7 1:2.8/90 LS
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Ballu
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Ballu wrote:
I have this lens... And its pretty sharp. Very small in size. I always keep in my bag.
This is my set of Tele Takumar 200mm f5.6 on Flickr,
http://www.flickr.com/photos/asbalyan/sets/72157600190129280/
I have both, all black and with silver ring, 135mm f3.5 preset as well as 200mm f5.6 from Takumar range. I am missing 300mm f5.6, will get one day...
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Nesster
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| Posted: Mon Sep 15, 2008 11:30 am Post subject: |
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Nesster wrote:
 I hope to take better (focused) photos with this lens, I was excited to have found it at the camera show yesterday... Talk about a portable tele!
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Nesster
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Nesster wrote:
Here's a couple better photos, this lens is pretty good wide open:
Larger: http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3198/2861678827_64477fdc66_o.jpg
100% crop: center, edge, lower 1/4:
Larger: httphttp://farm4.static.flickr.com/3017/2862509218_eb4727917d_o.jpg
Larger: http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3228/2861678959_d8590820a9_o.jpg
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Rob Leslie
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Rob Leslie wrote:
I have a friend who has this lens, I thought it fairly rare?
I have tried it and it is Very sharp.
I think your pictures are still soft or maybe just the PP.
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| Posted: Tue Sep 16, 2008 11:07 am Post subject: |
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Orio wrote:
I have seen very nice samples by Veijo made with this lens.
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patrickh wrote:
Handheld? or on a tripod? Usually the latter is preferable at this focal length
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Nesster
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Nesster wrote:
Handheld, and yes, with my hands, a pod would do wonders.
Here's Veijo's page:
http://galactinus.net/vilva/retro/eos350d_tt.html
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D1N0 wrote:
Some shots from today.
CFD 2.5 meters is a bit long but still close enough for good boken
 Greenkeh by The lens profile, on Flickr
sharpness is ok although wide open it needs to be sharpened a bit. This was shot at ISO 4000 so it may seem a bit processed.
 Duckeh by The lens profile, on Flickr
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jamaeolus wrote:
I don't have this Takumar. I have several of the super takumar 200mm f4 and the SMC versions. When I first dove into vintage manual lenses I bought many FL's of the Asahi Optical company. They were inexpensive, functtionally excellent (almost always,and i bought quite a few at very low bid labelled "as is"), optically very very good. I still think the super tak and SMC are the most reliable lenses of the "Golden Era" of manual lenses. To me the Golden era was when they st.ill made lenses of metal and glass but good optical calculations and coatings had arrived on the scene.
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D1N0 wrote:
This one was made to be travelled with I guess. The 200/3.5 alternative is a bit large as 200mm's go, so people wouldn't likely pack it in a suitcase.
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caspert79
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caspert79 wrote:
I quite like this lens. Incredibly small, built like a tank and decent optics. |
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| I quite like this lens. Incredibly small, built like a tank and decent optics. I believe mine is the non-preset though. |
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D1N0
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| I quite like this lens. Incredibly small, built like a tank and decent optics. I believe mine is the non-preset though. |
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This lens was only ever made in preset. First as Takumar, later as Tele-Takumar. The Pentax-m 200mm F4 is a bit shorter than this one and a stop brighter, but also wider and a bit heavier. The Takumar feels more massive in your hand though because of it's narrower build.
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visualopsins wrote:
How many diaphragm blades on your preset? https://takumarguide.weebly.com/1--56--200-347.html
The later Tele-Takumar https://takumarguide.weebly.com/1--56--200-351-43510.html
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D1N0 wrote:
 Tele-Takumar 200mm 1:5.6 ten blades by The lens profile, on Flickr
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