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Oldhand
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 Posted: Sun Mar 22, 2020 4:22 am Post subject: Cheap and cheerful The Rollei Tele Tessar HFT 135mm f4 QBM |
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Oldhand wrote:
A walk in our back garden today with the Tele Tessar from Rollei Singapore.
Apart from the mediocre mfd of 1.6m it is a very likable lens
Tom
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Minolfan
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| Posted: Sun Mar 22, 2020 10:22 am Post subject: |
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Minolfan wrote:
Very nice! |
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papasito
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| Posted: Sun Mar 22, 2020 1:44 pm Post subject: |
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papasito wrote:
Very good pics, Tom.
Nice rendering good resolution power and contrast.
I had one copy a long time ago (near 25 years) and was not HFT. Made in germany. Very good too. But had haze in the infernal face of the first element. I cleaned sometimes but the haze returned always. |
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tb_a
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| Posted: Sun Mar 22, 2020 6:05 pm Post subject: |
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tb_a wrote:
Nice pictures, Tom.
Have same lens in Voigtländer branding and M42. Indeed one of the better ones for little money.
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Pancolart
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| Posted: Sun Mar 22, 2020 6:17 pm Post subject: |
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Pancolart wrote:
very vibrant photos, nice! Quite an underdog this lens.
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papasito
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| Posted: Sun Mar 22, 2020 6:39 pm Post subject: |
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papasito wrote:
As I just said before, had this lens.
And the Voigtlander súper dynarex 135/4 in DKL. And the súper dynarex 135/4 un Icarex mount
All of the three had very similar rendición. Except in contrast. |
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blotafton
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| Posted: Sun Mar 22, 2020 8:08 pm Post subject: |
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blotafton wrote:
Beautiful samples |
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Oldhand
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| Posted: Sun Mar 22, 2020 9:21 pm Post subject: |
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Oldhand wrote:
Thank you everyone for the kind words.
A trip to the garden is an adventure here as we have soooo many mosquitoes after the rain.
Here are a few more from yesterday as well.
Mono and sepia added in LR
Tom
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Oldhand
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| Posted: Tue Mar 24, 2020 11:43 pm Post subject: |
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Oldhand wrote:
One more from this very handy lens
Tom
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kiddo
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| Posted: Wed Mar 25, 2020 3:00 am Post subject: |
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kiddo wrote:
What's the MFD of the lens? Are you using approx ring? |
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Oldhand
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| Posted: Wed Mar 25, 2020 4:42 am Post subject: |
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Oldhand wrote:
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| What's the MFD of the lens? Are you using approx ring? |
Already mentioned in the first post.
Sorry, I do not know what an approx ring is
Tom |
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kiddo
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| Posted: Wed Mar 25, 2020 11:51 pm Post subject: |
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kiddo wrote:
Sorry, my bad ,I mean extension ring . The 1.6 ain't that bad like DKL dynarex  |
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Oldhand
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| Posted: Thu Mar 26, 2020 12:01 am Post subject: |
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Oldhand wrote:
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| Sorry, my bad ,I mean extension ring . The 1.6 ain't that bad like DKL dynarex |
Extension ring, no I simply used the lens as is. You are right, the mfd isn't as bad as some.
I guess we have been spoilt by lenses like the AR Hexanon 3.2/135 with its 1m mfd
The DKL Dynarex is a very good lens, and I suspect that it was designed as a hiking telephoto, small enough to carry in a pocket and with an mfd that was not important for landscapes.
Cheers
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kiddo
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| Posted: Thu Mar 26, 2020 1:05 am Post subject: |
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kiddo wrote:
Now that's interesting statement indeed, did they ever think in hiking lenses in 1950's? I'm not sure about it, but it's one of the smallest 135 mm I know and it has pretty good resolution ,even though mine one it's got a border decement. |
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tb_a
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tb_a wrote:
Well, the Voigtländer DKL Super-Dynarex 135/4 evolved from the Super-Dynaret from the Vitessa-T rangefinder camera and was introduced 1959.
The original listing mentioned that due to it's relatively fast aperture it's good for snapshots like at sporting events. 
It was sold until 1970. The MFD was 4 m, which is indeed quite a distance.
It has nothing to do with the later Tele Tessar which was called "Color-Dynarex" when sold as Voigtländer variant.
This is the information from the Voigtländer Report from Claus Prochnow. I think that's the best source for any Voigtländer related issue, but available as printed book in German only.
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papasito
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| Posted: Thu Mar 26, 2020 2:48 am Post subject: |
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papasito wrote:
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| ....The MFD was 4 m, which is indeed quite a distance..... |
With the portrait lens made ad hoc, the MFD was 2 m. and the Max. was 4 m.
The design of the tele Tessar, the color Dynarex and the súper dynarex of the Icarex, had as Father the old voigtlander DKL version.
http://www.klassik-cameras.de/Rollei_QBM_Zeiss_dt.html
In the same way, my personal experience with them.
Since 1975 to 1998 I have collected all the voigtlander DKL lenses and Icarex ones.
I know them very well |
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paulhofseth
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| Posted: Fri Mar 27, 2020 5:32 pm Post subject: |
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paulhofseth wrote:
same design as the Singapore made prototype Alpa 135 m42 mount lens? (This was refused by Pignons, presumably not on optical grounds, but due to a sticking auto aperture pin.)
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Sciolist
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Sciolist wrote:
Phwoah! #1 from the first batch is right up my street Tom. Top drawer . |
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tb_a
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| Posted: Fri Mar 27, 2020 6:42 pm Post subject: |
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tb_a wrote:
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same design as the Singapore made prototype Alpa 135 m42 mount lens? (This was refused by Pignons, presumably not on optical grounds, but due to a sticking auto aperture pin.)
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No idea about ALPA lenses and this project. But the Rollei Zeiss Tele-Tessar 135/4 QBM lens was available in Voigtländer branding in both QBM and M42 mounts made in Singapore.
I've got the M42 variant from Singapore and glued the aperture pin for the usage on digital cameras as otherwise the aperture stays open.
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tb_a
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tb_a wrote:
These are my Voigtländer variants all made in Singapore in M42. All of these are available in Rollei Carl Zeiss in QBM as well. Optically identical. BTW, ALL Singapore made lenses are HFT coated, irrespectible of markings or branding.
On the left side the Rollei Tele-Tessar in Voigtländer branding which obviously needs some cleaning:
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Paulius
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Paulius wrote:
Now you need Rolley:
Tele-Tessar 200mm f4
Planar 85mm-f1,4
Planar 50mm-f1,8
Distagon 25mm- f4 and 35mm- f4
All are brilliant! |
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tb_a
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| Posted: Tue Mar 31, 2020 7:11 am Post subject: |
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tb_a wrote:
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Now you need Rolley:
Tele-Tessar 200mm f4
Planar 85mm-f1,4
Planar 50mm-f1,8
Distagon 25mm- f4 and 35mm- f4
All are brilliant! |
The Rollei Planar 50/1.8 is the Voigtländer Color-Ultron 50/1.8. Just the name Ring on the front is different.
Besides that I think I'm more than fine with my already existing collection of lenses.
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Oldhand
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| Posted: Tue Mar 31, 2020 7:33 am Post subject: |
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Oldhand wrote:
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| Paulius wrote: |
Now you need Rolley:
Tele-Tessar 200mm f4
Planar 85mm-f1,4
Planar 50mm-f1,8
Distagon 25mm- f4 and 35mm- f4
All are brilliant! |
The Rollei Planar 50/1.8 is the Voigtländer Color-Ultron 50/1.8. Just the name Ring on the front is different.
Besides that I think I'm more than fine with my already existing collection of lenses. |
It is quite a wonderful lens though.
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tb_a
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| Posted: Tue Mar 31, 2020 9:10 am Post subject: |
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tb_a wrote:
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It is quite a wonderful lens though.
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Indeed, Tom. Nice example picture.
Several years ago most probably the best "normal lens" in this class.
Have now also played around with the Tele Tessar and agree, it's a very nice lens as well. Almost on the same excellent level like my Leitz Elmar 135/4.
Only the 35mm/F2.8 Distagon is a little bit disappointing in my infinity landscape testing and IMHO slightly below my beloved Minolta MD 35/2.8.
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papasito
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papasito wrote:
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Now you need Rolley:
Tele-Tessar 200mm f4
Planar 85mm-f1,4
Planar 50mm-f1,8
Distagon 25mm- f4 and 35mm- f4
All are brilliant! |
Tele Tessar 200 is the same then 200/4 Voigtlander Super Dynarex for Icarex? |
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