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PostPosted: Thu Feb 20, 2020 5:15 am    Post subject: Nikkor AIS 300 2.8 Disassembly Reply with quote

I know its kind of a long shot but I have not been able to find any information anywhere. i am wanting to disassemble my Nikkor 300 2.8, it has a little mold on the focusing element that shows up when the lens is stopped down, also when gripping the front barrel and rear of the lens there is an annoying wiggle I would like to eliminate. The problem is that I am stumped on how to proceed. It is relatively easy to get to the point shown in the pictures below. The two pins on the rear were lacquered in place, I even removed them but it seemed to be a dead end. Has anyone had one of these lenses disassembled past this point or know anyone that has? Any help or pointers are greatly appreciated!





PostPosted: Sun Apr 05, 2020 2:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Finally figured it out and got the mold cleaned out. Since there is absolutely no information on how to do this available online here are a few pictures and basic guidance. The first step I did was to loosed the three set screws on the aperture assembly, these are the ones closest to the tripod mount ( I don't have a picture of this because it is easy to figure out) and then screwed the aperture and drop in filter assembly off ( there is a spacer between these pieces so make sure you don't lose it. Next I loosened the three set screws just below the hood when it is extended and unscrewed the front element assembly ( Pictured below)


Then I used some nail polish remover to remove the sealant holding in the two set pins shown in the earlier picture and removed them. Then using the two holes left behind use a lens spanner to unscrew this collar, make sure your spanner does not go into the holes too far or it will lock to the rear element assembly (My initial mistake). The picture below shows the pins out of this collar. There is a spacer between this collar and the focus group so don't lose it.
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Then remove the index collar and distance collar, both of which have three set screws


Next use a toothpick to loosen and remove the rubber focus grip. Mine split due to the age of it.

Now that the grip is removed there are holes near the top of the focus ring, don't mess with the other ones unless you want to disassemble the helicoid and you will probably want to do that later, rotate the focus ring and remove three set screws, there is sealant on them so use a little nail polish remover to loosen it.





Now that these screws are removed you can unscrew the front element housing from the focusing group



Now use your lens spanner to unscrew the lens element group and clean what you need to clean.



Here are all the pieces that I removed. Reassembly is in reverse.



This is not a comprehensive guide and is just a guideline. As usual I take no responsibility if you ruin your lens. If you have not repaired other lenses this is probably not the first one you want to do. Mine is clean now and I can stop down and take pictures of the sky no problem. Really happy I got it cleaned even if it took a couple months to figure out.


PostPosted: Sun Apr 05, 2020 12:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Good work, thanks for posting the info (probably belongs in repairs or diy section).


PostPosted: Sun Apr 05, 2020 1:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Good point, not sure how to get it moved though..


PostPosted: Sun Apr 05, 2020 2:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Topic moved where it belongs.
More than that, I asked almost the same question a week ago, how to dismantle the aforementioned lens, because mine has a broken/stuck diaphragm.
Now seeing your post I'd give it another try.
Thanks!


PostPosted: Sun Apr 05, 2020 3:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for moving it and hope it’s of some help! I didn’t disassemble the aperture assembly but it is really easy to remove. There are three sets of two set screws and you just remove the three that are closest to the tripod mount and unscrew the mount and aperture assembly.


PostPosted: Sun Apr 05, 2020 6:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mr.Bittacy wrote:
Thanks for moving it and hope it’s of some help! I didn’t disassemble the aperture assembly but it is really easy to remove. There are three sets of two set screws and you just remove the three that are closest to the tripod mount and unscrew the mount and aperture assembly.


Very helpful your post. Much appreciated.
I'll remove the mount and put up some pictures.
And we'll go from there.


PostPosted: Tue Apr 07, 2020 3:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you still have it open can you take a picture with the innards of the diaphragm section?
I can't figure out where my hanging bit ( the spring with the cylinder ) is coming from. Maybe I miss some bits/links in there.





I removed the 3 set screws and I unscrewed that section. There is another set (3 of them) of set screws under the top ones that is probably holding the aperture ring in place. What do you think? The slanted red arrow is on the ring with the diaphragm.



PostPosted: Tue Apr 07, 2020 8:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I’ll unscrew the back and take a picture of that area, I’m thinking you are on the right track but there has to be something connecting the diaphragm to the aperture ring so I would take off the mount and look in there to see what needs to be disconnected before trying to unscrew the diaphragm part...


PostPosted: Wed Apr 08, 2020 12:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ok, I took the aperture part off and took a couple pictures, let me know if there are any other ones that I can get for you.

This first one shows the part that I believe is off in yours, it is for the ( Not sure if its the right term) aperture preview lever, so maybe if it is off then your aperture is working fine but always being forced open due to this part being off.



This is the fork for the actual aperture ring



And I am not sure what this part is for



Personally I would take it apart and try to fix the preview lever linkage but if it is truly broken then maybe you could just disable it ( if your using a mirrorless camera) then at least you could still adjust the aperture normally.

Andrew


PostPosted: Wed Apr 08, 2020 2:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Looking at your picture more closely it doesn't look like there is any noticeable damage to that post, maybe it just somehow got dislodged? If you could feel where the hole is maybe you could get it back in place with a pair of bent needle nose pliers, maybe dab a little nail polish on it to seal it without even taking it any further apart or you may be able to see something with the mount off to help.


PostPosted: Wed Apr 08, 2020 5:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thank you again! Much appreciated!
Your first picture: now I know where to put it, I don't know what I'll get with that, but nonetheless I'll do it. After I find my tweezers Very Happy
That lever, in my lens, is not connected with anything so that's way I said that I don't know what I'll get.

Second picture: the same to my lens, it's the lever that gets moved by the aperture ring. It moves only it doesn't open or close anything.

Third picture : I have yet to find the meaning of that part.

I'm using a Canon 5D Mark II


PostPosted: Thu Apr 09, 2020 6:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The pin at the end of the spring has a small shoulder - red arrow - that goes into the hole of the plate. The plate has a circular movement that open or close the blades. The hole looks to have some jagged edges and I'm afraid to press the pin into it because what I see black through the hole are the blades and I don't want to damage them.
Otherwise the blades are moving easily, not damaged at all.
Any idea how to remove the diaphragm block/unit?
The service manual I thought it to be for us the layman Very Happy but it's not.
Pictures taken with Canon FD 200/4 macro.







Last edited by Himself on Thu Apr 09, 2020 11:21 pm; edited 1 time in total


PostPosted: Thu Apr 09, 2020 11:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm thinking to superglue a larger piece of blade ( trimmed to size but larger than the pin itself) to the pin and then glue everything on top of the actual hole.
Pro? Cons? Anyone?


PostPosted: Thu Apr 09, 2020 11:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rely on mechanical connection rather than only glue itself, i.e., something other than only glue in the hole, a small wire perhaps, also connected to everything on top.


PostPosted: Fri Apr 10, 2020 4:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't want to touch the hole at all.
I'm afraid I might damage the blades.
Just go around it with glue.


PostPosted: Sat Apr 11, 2020 5:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Seems like your best bet is to the get the aperture out, looks like the post was put in there almost like a rivet and it somehow pulled out of the metal.. since that’s just for the auto preview lever which you don’t need I would try to find a way to permanently keep that plate in the position that allows the blades to stop down with the ring.. either with tape or a spring so it can be undone. If your not using a Nikon camera it is kind of pointless to fix that pArt except for resale.. just try moving the plate with a screw driver or pick in that hole and find the position that allows the blades to stop down and then just tape it or something...


PostPosted: Sat Apr 11, 2020 5:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It must rely on that spring tension to keep it in a position that allows you to stop it down.. now it’s probably just in a spot where it thinks you are constantly depressing the lever to open the blades.


PostPosted: Sat Apr 11, 2020 1:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mr.Bittacy wrote:
Seems like your best bet is to the get the aperture out, looks like the post was put in there almost like a rivet and it somehow pulled out of the metal.. since that’s just for the auto preview lever which you don’t need I would try to find a way to permanently keep that plate in the position that allows the blades to stop down with the ring.. either with tape or a spring so it can be undone. If your not using a Nikon camera it is kind of pointless to fix that pArt except for resale.. just try moving the plate with a screw driver or pick in that hole and find the position that allows the blades to stop down and then just tape it or something...


I'll try that to see how it works.