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Lloydy
Joined: 02 Sep 2009 Posts: 7785 Location: Ironbridge. UK.
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Posted: Thu Aug 27, 2015 10:45 pm Post subject: |
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Lloydy wrote:
miran wrote: |
Lloydy wrote: |
That's a decent picture, a bit of PP to increase contrast would sort that out. |
That's not a decent picture. In the centre it's worse than any modern kit zoom and not very far outside of the centre it's just horrible. And that's on a crop sensor. If this is indeed at f/8, there's something wrong with the lens. Maybe one element was put in the wrong way? |
I was using an old laptop and it looked OK, just washed out a bit. It looks worse on the PC monitor. a Takumar should be better than that. _________________ LENSES & CAMERAS FOR SALE.....
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Aanything
Joined: 27 Aug 2011 Posts: 2201 Location: Piacenza, Italy
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Posted: Fri Aug 28, 2015 6:38 am Post subject: |
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Aanything wrote:
Some samples from my SMC tak 28
here with the nex 5r, so aps-c. It always looked good to me, not excellent, but the good sharpness stopped down, the strong contrast and excellent flare resistance made me pick it up every now and then. Then I bought a distagon, and it sits almost unused since then. _________________ C&C and editing of my pics are always welcome
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bluecoast
Joined: 26 Mar 2015 Posts: 41 Location: USA
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Posted: Sat Aug 29, 2015 10:32 pm Post subject: |
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bluecoast wrote:
Zeeke wrote: |
If 28mm I would like to have an RMC Tokina 28mm m42 but prices on eBay have become too high.
I have it in the Pentax K I used it on my Canon APS-C ,tried a couple
Yashica ML 28mm and they were not as good as Tokina / Hoya |
if you wanted to work on a budget, perhaps try the vivitar 28mm 2.5 m42. i believe this tends to be cheap as it has a mixed reputation but i don't know whether that's based on film experience or digital. on my canon, it's rich and contrasty and rather well detailed at 2.8. a favorite 28mm lens that might also still fall into the budget category is the already mentioned mamiya sx 28mm.
what didn't you like about the ml? i have it and the distagon and find the ml to be sharper wide open than the distagon. everything i've mentioned has been on a full frame but if you like i can try these on one of my apsc canons to see whether they still hold their own.presumably they would. _________________ "one cat just leads to another" e.h. |
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WNG555
Joined: 18 Dec 2014 Posts: 784 Location: Arrid-Zone-A, USA
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Posted: Sun Aug 30, 2015 1:45 am Post subject: |
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WNG555 wrote:
y wrote: |
miran wrote: |
That's not a decent picture. In the centre it's worse than any modern kit zoom and not very far outside of the centre it's just horrible. And that's on a crop sensor. |
Exactly, any standard plastic zoom would just blow this out of the water. Can't say that about, for instance, cheap Olympus OM wides. |
I was seeing similar results from my Super and S-M-C Takumar 28's for landscapes too, and shelved both of them and searched for replacements.
They are both excellent shooting subjects close up. So, it's not a flipped element or damaged copy.
I wonder if it has to do with sensor stack of certain cameras. I have an a6000. While Aanything can get outstanding images from his NEX. I can't get his results no matter how hard I try with these two.
Back to 35mm M42 budget lenses...
As mentioned, Takumar 35-f/3.5, if that is fast enough. It also exhibited similar landscape shortcomings on the a6000, but not so severe.
The Vivitar (Tokina) 35mm f/2.8 is very good, and cheap. See plenty in M42 on ebay going for $20. Their T4 version is also great, if you can get a T4/M42 mount.
Vivitar (Komine) 35mm f/2.8 is decidedly better though. I can concur with MarcusBMG, after seeing results from mine, it's the best 35 I have now. Includes Yashinon DX 35 f/2.8, Konica Hexanon AR 35-f/2.8, Takumar, the Tokinas.
Inexpensive too. But it may be hard to find in M42. _________________ "The eyes are useless when the mind is blind."
Sony ILCE-6000, SELP1650, SEL1855, SEL55210, SEL5018. Sigma 19/30/60mm f2.8 EX DN Art.
Rokinon 8mm f3.5 Fish-Eye, 14mm f2.8 IF ED UMC. Samyang 12mm f2.8 ED AS NCS Fish-Eye.
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y
Joined: 11 Aug 2013 Posts: 304 Location: EU
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Posted: Sun Aug 30, 2015 10:59 am Post subject: |
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y wrote:
WNG555 wrote: |
I was seeing similar results from my Super and S-M-C Takumar 28's for landscapes too, and shelved both of them and searched for replacements.
They are both excellent shooting subjects close up. So, it's not a flipped element or damaged copy.
I wonder if it has to do with sensor stack of certain cameras. I have an a6000. While Aanything can get outstanding images from his NEX. I can't get his results no matter how hard I try with these two.
Back to 35mm M42 budget lenses...
As mentioned, Takumar 35-f/3.5, if that is fast enough. It also exhibited similar landscape shortcomings on the a6000, but not so severe. |
Ony my elder Canon 400D two copies of S-M-C Tak 35/3.5 presented comparable results to MC Flektogon 35/2.4 at infinity with f/8. That's nowhere near as bad as my 28mm S-M-C Tak. However, both 35s are decentered. It gets apparent on apertures lower than f/5.6.
I'd also recommend a Vivitar 35 |
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