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Snodge
Joined: 01 Jan 2015 Posts: 163 Location: Bristol, UK
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Posted: Thu Apr 23, 2015 8:36 pm Post subject: Meyer Optik Goerlitz Somnium f1.5 85mm |
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Snodge wrote:
Hi Everyone,
Seeing how I didn't have an 85mm in my line-up, I splashed out on a Meyer-Optik-Görlitz Somnium f/1.5 85mm lens in Canon mount (from a Leica reseller shop in Germany on ebay!). Only taken it out once so far, but using it on my Canon 5D3 seems to indicate it is a very nice lens. Initial impressions seem to me that the colour rendering is more accurate than most other of my lenses, it is sharp, next to no vignetting (even at f/1.5) and it also works well with infrared (no hotspots).
I've attached some examples from last Saturday at Montecute house in Somerset. All have been exported straight from Lightroom CC with no editing (not even sharpness or white balance). As there is no electronic communication, there is limited EXIF info, but I'm sure you can see which are the f/1.5 shots compared with the others!
EDIT: I did have a title, but I guess the forum doesn't like forward slashes or odd characters like an o with 2 dots above it! _________________ Hugh
Camera bodies: Fujifilm X-E3 (digital), Praktika Super TL1000 (35mm film), Kershaw 450 (medium format 6x6 folder)
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cluelessnikonguy
Joined: 19 Mar 2015 Posts: 5
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Posted: Thu Apr 23, 2015 8:50 pm Post subject: |
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cluelessnikonguy wrote:
Some great photos there!
I particularly like the bokeh, it has a nice character that I can't quite identify |
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hasan
Joined: 12 Mar 2007 Posts: 313
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Posted: Thu Apr 23, 2015 9:49 pm Post subject: |
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hasan wrote:
hello!
nice perspectives.
most of the new meyer lenses seem to be rebadged mitakons, and this one does look very similar to a helios 85mm 1.5,
don't you think?
even IQ seem to be similar. may I ask, what you paid for it? |
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Attila
Joined: 24 Feb 2007 Posts: 57851 Location: Hungary
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Posted: Fri Apr 24, 2015 2:41 am Post subject: |
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Attila wrote:
Impressive , I like them ! _________________ -------------------------------
Items on sale on Ebay
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Lightshow
Joined: 04 Nov 2011 Posts: 3669 Location: Calgary
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Posted: Fri Apr 24, 2015 2:55 am Post subject: |
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Lightshow wrote:
Nice pictures.
hasan wrote: |
hello!
nice perspectives.
most of the new meyer lenses seem to be rebadged mitakons, and this one does look very similar to a helios 85mm 1.5,
don't you think?
even IQ seem to be similar. may I ask, what you paid for it? |
I believe it is.
http://www.meyer-optik-goerlitz.de/en/somnium-f15-85mm/
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Optical design: 6 elements in 4 assembly units |
And the Helios 44
And costs much less....
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Soviet-Helios-40-2-85mm-f-1-5-lens-for-Canon-EOS-Camera-NEW-Free-ship-in-USA-/111021126946
On a side note, I see the 40 has an updated look
http://www.diyphotography.net/updated-zenit-helios-40-2-85mm-f1-5-lens-announced/
http://shop.zenit-foto.ru/ob-ektivy/gelios-40-2c-2015-04-06-detail
_________________ A Manual Focus Junky...
One photographers junk lens is an artists favorite tool.
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RTI
Joined: 15 Jul 2011 Posts: 282 Location: Moldova, Chisinau
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Posted: Fri Apr 24, 2015 6:34 am Post subject: |
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RTI wrote:
I'd say they ask too much money for the badge... If it's the Helios you can get it for 3rd of the price. _________________ Cameras: Canon 5DIII, Zorki-4, Canon AE-1
MF:Rokkor 58/1.2, Rokkor MC 58/1.4, Yashica ML 50/1.7, M39 Jupiter-9 (silver 1955), Zuiko 35-70/3.6
AF: Sigma Art 35/1.4, Tamron 24-70/2.8 VC, |
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BurstMox
Joined: 04 Dec 2011 Posts: 1998 Location: France
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Posted: Fri Apr 24, 2015 7:00 am Post subject: |
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BurstMox wrote:
I wonder if KMZ build this Helios-40 for this new Meyer optik brand.
They look totaly the same, but it's not in the list of lenses producted by KMZ for other brands... _________________ Pierre
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tomasg
Joined: 01 Nov 2009 Posts: 1135
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Posted: Fri Apr 24, 2015 7:55 am Post subject: |
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tomasg wrote:
Interesting that the marking on the aperture is 1.4 |
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Snodge
Joined: 01 Jan 2015 Posts: 163 Location: Bristol, UK
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Posted: Fri Apr 24, 2015 7:58 am Post subject: |
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Snodge wrote:
The lens was 999 euros, so for me with shipping, just under £700. The Helios 40-2 is still only m42, the EOS mount ones shown on ebay just have the adaptor attached.
I did wonder if they would be the same design or using the same components, but I can't help but wonder if there are better or different coatings on Somnium, just because the colours are vivid without being over-saturated; I don't get that on any other lens, be it m42, Canon, or my Zeiss 50mm with Canon mount.
Mostly I wanted it because I hadn't seen anyone else with one!
Oh, and here's a processed image done with the infrared filter (crpped due to light leak from viewfinder!):
_________________ Hugh
Camera bodies: Fujifilm X-E3 (digital), Praktika Super TL1000 (35mm film), Kershaw 450 (medium format 6x6 folder)
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Snodge
Joined: 01 Jan 2015 Posts: 163 Location: Bristol, UK
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Posted: Fri Apr 24, 2015 7:59 am Post subject: |
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Snodge wrote:
tomasg wrote: |
Interesting that the marking on the aperture is 1.4 |
I believe that is an image from one of the test lenses before they were brought to manufacture, mine definitely says 1.5 as does the box it came it! _________________ Hugh
Camera bodies: Fujifilm X-E3 (digital), Praktika Super TL1000 (35mm film), Kershaw 450 (medium format 6x6 folder)
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kds315*
Joined: 12 Mar 2008 Posts: 16553 Location: Weinheim, Germany
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Posted: Fri Apr 24, 2015 8:03 am Post subject: |
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kds315* wrote:
I paid GBP100 for my black Helios 40-2 a few years back, and it sits around unused, maybe I should give it a spin
I still believe it is the same lens, bit brushed up.
That is one nice IR shot! _________________ Klaus - Admin
"S'il vient a point, me souviendra" [Thomas Bohier (1460-1523)]
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https://www.flickr.com/photos/kds315/albums my albums using various lenses
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Pentax Quartz Takumar f3.5/85mm
Carl Zeiss Jena UV-Objektiv f4/60mm
NYE OPTICAL Lyman-Alpha II f1.1/90mm
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COASTAL OPTICS f4/60mm UV-VIS-IR Apo
COASTAL OPTICS f4.5/105mm UV-Micro-Apo
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tomasg
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Posted: Fri Apr 24, 2015 8:22 am Post subject: |
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tomasg wrote:
Snodge wrote: |
tomasg wrote: |
Interesting that the marking on the aperture is 1.4 |
I believe that is an image from one of the test lenses before they were brought to manufacture, mine definitely says 1.5 as does the box it came it! |
Ah ok! Regarding the coatings and colour maybe you can search for photos taken with the new production Helios 40? |
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hasan
Joined: 12 Mar 2007 Posts: 313
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Posted: Fri Apr 24, 2015 7:10 pm Post subject: |
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hasan wrote:
Made in Germany ? Sorry but this a nothing but a lie, if it's only a rebadged Helios. Also all other new Meyer lenses are not "Made in Germany" :-S Don't forget that Meyer is not Meyer anymore, but has been bought by a company (I don't recall the name), which has nothing to do with photooptics. If I am wrong, Please correct me.
At least, the the price difference may not be that huge. . .
Kind regards
Hasan |
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edri
Joined: 26 Oct 2014 Posts: 315 Location: walking in the air
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Posted: Fri Apr 24, 2015 7:17 pm Post subject: |
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edri wrote:
I am curious who will produce, for them, the Trioplan lens. Zeiss? _________________ http://www.adlightstill.smugmug.com |
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Lightshow
Joined: 04 Nov 2011 Posts: 3669 Location: Calgary
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Posted: Fri Apr 24, 2015 7:27 pm Post subject: |
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Lightshow wrote:
hasan wrote: |
Made in Germany ? Sorry but this a nothing but a lie, if it's only a rebadged Helios. Also all other new Meyer lenses are not "Made in Germany" :-S Don't forget that Meyer is not Meyer anymore, but has been bought by a company (I don't recall the name), which has nothing to do with photooptics. If I am wrong, Please correct me.
At least, the the price difference may not be that huge. . .
Kind regards
Hasan |
I agree that made in Germany is likely a bit strong, Assembly in Germany could be closer to the truth.
If the focus ring is made in Germany and installed in Germany, that will likely satisfy requirements to qualify for made in Germany status. _________________ A Manual Focus Junky...
One photographers junk lens is an artists favorite tool.
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enzodm
Joined: 11 Sep 2010 Posts: 350 Location: Italy
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Posted: Sat Apr 25, 2015 8:14 pm Post subject: |
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enzodm wrote:
There is an old thread with information on this new wave of Meyer Görlitz: http://forum.mflenses.com/meyer-goerlitz-new-lenses-t67745.html _________________
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