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iangreenhalgh1
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Posted: Mon Sep 30, 2013 9:03 pm Post subject: First attempt at Colour Infrared - Hodbarrow |
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iangreenhalgh1 wrote:
I took my old Nikon D50 with Nikkor-N 2.8/24 to Hodbarrow Point equipped with my newly arrived from China 720nm IR filter to try it out. This filter passes a little bit of visible light so enables colour IR shots. The light was awful, very gray and dull, would have been a waste of time shooting visible light, but IR seemed to work okay.
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Attila
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Posted: Mon Sep 30, 2013 9:05 pm Post subject: |
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Attila wrote:
Landscapes are so stunning, I am not impressed by light tower. _________________ -------------------------------
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Excalibur
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Posted: Mon Sep 30, 2013 9:13 pm Post subject: |
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Excalibur wrote:
Well they looks different, but if I showed these shots to my wife she would say "there was something wrong with your camera" _________________ Canon A1, AV1, T70 & T90, EOS 300 and EOS300v, Chinon CE and CP-7M. Contax 139, Fuji STX-2, Konica Autoreflex TC, FS-1, FT-1, Minolta X-700, X-300, XD-11, SRT101b, Nikon EM, FM, F4, F90X, Olympus OM2, Pentax S3, Spotmatic, Pentax ME super, Praktica TL 5B, & BC1, , Ricoh KR10super, Yashica T5D, Bronica Etrs, Mamiya RB67 pro AND drum roll:- a Sony Nex 3
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iangreenhalgh1
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Posted: Mon Sep 30, 2013 9:16 pm Post subject: |
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iangreenhalgh1 wrote:
Cheers, I'm not impressed with the lighthouse either, seems to me that IR is best used on landscapes, trees, etc and isn't good for industrial and buildings.
LOL, they do look like the camera was playing up I suppose. _________________ I don't care who designed it, who made it or what country it comes from - I just enjoy using it! |
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l9magen
Joined: 13 Jul 2011 Posts: 326 Location: Calgary, Canada
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Posted: Tue Oct 01, 2013 3:00 am Post subject: |
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l9magen wrote:
#2 & #3 for me - look forward to seeing some more.
Did you do any PP and if so, what software? (I'm thinking channel-switching). Currently I'm using GIMP with mixed success, but I'm shooting with a converted camera so I think the workflows differ.
Don't give up on the industrial-type shots - it does take the right light. _________________ Lochlann
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iangreenhalgh1
Joined: 18 Mar 2011 Posts: 15685
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Posted: Tue Oct 01, 2013 3:11 am Post subject: |
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iangreenhalgh1 wrote:
Cheers, I had anything but the right light, so I will try again.
I used Photoshop, Photomatix and Autopano Giga. First step was to convert the Nikon NEF files into TIFFs using Photoshop, setting a new white balance as a batch process. Then I compiled the HDR frames in Photomatix. After that I stitched them in Autopano. Then back into Photoshop where I did a channel swap, then a tweak of the colours and saturation and sharpening.
This is what I got out of the camera:
After resetting the White Balance in Photoshop:
After swapping channels:
Then Auto Colour in Photoshop:
That example is of a single frame, rather than a HDR one, but I think it shows the workflow, the HDR step comes after setting the WB and before swapping channels. It also shows the dull, gray conditions and explains why I chose to use HDR - it is the best way I have found of overcoming such bad light conditions. _________________ I don't care who designed it, who made it or what country it comes from - I just enjoy using it! |
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Orio
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Posted: Tue Oct 01, 2013 4:25 am Post subject: |
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Orio wrote:
Ian - simply beautiful. #5 and #6 are stunning. _________________ Orio, Administrator
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iangreenhalgh1
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Posted: Tue Oct 01, 2013 5:11 am Post subject: |
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iangreenhalgh1 wrote:
Cheers Orio. I hope to do better with practice and better light conditions, but I'm pleased with the start I've got off to, IR is proving easier than I expected. _________________ I don't care who designed it, who made it or what country it comes from - I just enjoy using it! |
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kds315*
Joined: 12 Mar 2008 Posts: 16553 Location: Weinheim, Germany
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Posted: Tue Oct 01, 2013 5:48 am Post subject: |
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kds315* wrote:
Works fine for me (landscape).
Ian, try to preset in-camera white balance using green grass, that usually works fine for such IR images!
Not really needed but allows a good preview how the final result will look like.... _________________ Klaus - Admin
"S'il vient a point, me souviendra" [Thomas Bohier (1460-1523)]
http://www.macrolenses.de for macro and special lens info
http://www.pbase.com/kds315/uv_photos for UV Images and lens/filter info
https://www.flickr.com/photos/kds315/albums my albums using various lenses
http://photographyoftheinvisibleworld.blogspot.com/ my UV BLOG
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https://galeriafotografia.com Architecture + Drone photography
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X80QF f3.2/80mm
Hypergon f11/26mm
ELCAN UV f5.6/52mm
Zeiss UV-Planar f4/60mm
Zeiss UV-Planar f2/62mm
Lomo Уфар-12 f2.5/41mm
Lomo Зуфар-2 f4.0/350mm
Lomo ZIKAR-1A f1.2/100mm
Nikon UV Nikkor f4.5/105mm
Zeiss UV-Sonnar f4.3/105mm
CERCO UV-VIS-NIR f1.8/45mm
CERCO UV-VIS-NIR f4.1/94mm
CERCO UV-VIS-NIR f2.8/100mm
Steinheil Quarzobjektiv f1.8/50mm
Pentax Quartz Takumar f3.5/85mm
Carl Zeiss Jena UV-Objektiv f4/60mm
NYE OPTICAL Lyman-Alpha II f1.1/90mm
NYE OPTICAL Lyman-Alpha I f2.8/200mm
COASTAL OPTICS f4/60mm UV-VIS-IR Apo
COASTAL OPTICS f4.5/105mm UV-Micro-Apo
Pentax Ultra-Achromatic Takumar f4.5/85mm
Pentax Ultra-Achromatic Takumar f5.6/300mm
Rodenstock UV-Rodagon f5.6/60mm + 105mm + 150mm
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iangreenhalgh1
Joined: 18 Mar 2011 Posts: 15685
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Posted: Tue Oct 01, 2013 6:40 am Post subject: |
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iangreenhalgh1 wrote:
Cheers Klaus, I must read how to do that on the D50. It's not much work to do the WB during RAW conversion, but it would be useful to get a view on the camera LCD that was closer to the end result. _________________ I don't care who designed it, who made it or what country it comes from - I just enjoy using it! |
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kds315*
Joined: 12 Mar 2008 Posts: 16553 Location: Weinheim, Germany
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Posted: Tue Oct 01, 2013 6:46 am Post subject: |
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kds315* wrote:
Yep, I found this rather useful to have. Also not to blow channels is helpful. _________________ Klaus - Admin
"S'il vient a point, me souviendra" [Thomas Bohier (1460-1523)]
http://www.macrolenses.de for macro and special lens info
http://www.pbase.com/kds315/uv_photos for UV Images and lens/filter info
https://www.flickr.com/photos/kds315/albums my albums using various lenses
http://photographyoftheinvisibleworld.blogspot.com/ my UV BLOG
http://www.travelmeetsfood.com/blog Food + Travel BLOG
https://galeriafotografia.com Architecture + Drone photography
Currently most FAV lens(es):
X80QF f3.2/80mm
Hypergon f11/26mm
ELCAN UV f5.6/52mm
Zeiss UV-Planar f4/60mm
Zeiss UV-Planar f2/62mm
Lomo Уфар-12 f2.5/41mm
Lomo Зуфар-2 f4.0/350mm
Lomo ZIKAR-1A f1.2/100mm
Nikon UV Nikkor f4.5/105mm
Zeiss UV-Sonnar f4.3/105mm
CERCO UV-VIS-NIR f1.8/45mm
CERCO UV-VIS-NIR f4.1/94mm
CERCO UV-VIS-NIR f2.8/100mm
Steinheil Quarzobjektiv f1.8/50mm
Pentax Quartz Takumar f3.5/85mm
Carl Zeiss Jena UV-Objektiv f4/60mm
NYE OPTICAL Lyman-Alpha II f1.1/90mm
NYE OPTICAL Lyman-Alpha I f2.8/200mm
COASTAL OPTICS f4/60mm UV-VIS-IR Apo
COASTAL OPTICS f4.5/105mm UV-Micro-Apo
Pentax Ultra-Achromatic Takumar f4.5/85mm
Pentax Ultra-Achromatic Takumar f5.6/300mm
Rodenstock UV-Rodagon f5.6/60mm + 105mm + 150mm
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iangreenhalgh1
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Posted: Tue Oct 01, 2013 6:56 am Post subject: |
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iangreenhalgh1 wrote:
The D50 has a useful histogram for that. The blown highlights in the skies are the result of an error I made in PP, I'll figure out how to avoid it next time I hope. _________________ I don't care who designed it, who made it or what country it comes from - I just enjoy using it! |
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tomasg
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Posted: Tue Oct 01, 2013 8:35 am Post subject: |
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tomasg wrote:
iangreenhalgh1 wrote: |
Cheers Klaus, I must read how to do that on the D50. It's not much work to do the WB during RAW conversion, but it would be useful to get a view on the camera LCD that was closer to the end result. |
Press the WB button on the left and keep it pressed, there is a question mark and a key on it, rotate the dial on the body and select "PRE", release the button and press it again, hold it until a "PRE" blinks in the viewfinder then press the shutter all the way. If everything is ok you ll see a "GD" blinking in the viewfinder. That s it.
Tomas
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pich900
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Posted: Tue Oct 01, 2013 9:06 am Post subject: |
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pich900 wrote:
Quite unusual colors but I think it's working fine, the landscapes are really great (I guess much nicer than with original colors!) and I like also the tower, the sky and the light on the lower right side are nicely rendered...very good work especially with the bad light conditions! _________________ All my lenses are for sale, nikkor, Angenieux, Zeiss etc.....
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iangreenhalgh1
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Posted: Tue Oct 01, 2013 10:27 am Post subject: |
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iangreenhalgh1 wrote:
Thanks for the tips Tomas, and the kind words Pascal. If the light had been a bit better, I would have also shot visible light versions, bu it really was too dull and gray to be worthwhile, even with my HDR technique, I think the results would have not been very good,so I am surprised that the IR worked okay. _________________ I don't care who designed it, who made it or what country it comes from - I just enjoy using it! |
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tomasg
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Posted: Tue Oct 01, 2013 2:52 pm Post subject: |
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tomasg wrote:
I wonder if the D50 is similar?
http://www.instructables.com/id/DIY-Permanent-Infrared-DSLR-Camera/?ALLSTEPS
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iangreenhalgh1
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Posted: Tue Oct 01, 2013 3:44 pm Post subject: |
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iangreenhalgh1 wrote:
Not all that similar, requires some soldering:
http://www.lifepixel.com/tutorials/infrared-diy-tutorials/nikon-d50 _________________ I don't care who designed it, who made it or what country it comes from - I just enjoy using it! |
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tomasg
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Posted: Tue Oct 01, 2013 4:48 pm Post subject: |
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tomasg wrote:
Interesting that it s more complicated then with the D80. Yes some soldering is required, but it looks a basic soldering. More than replacing the IE filter i would like to swap/remove the AA filter, making it a "hot rod" version ala MaxMax.
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iangreenhalgh1
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Posted: Tue Oct 01, 2013 5:03 pm Post subject: |
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iangreenhalgh1 wrote:
The older the DSLR, the simpler it is to perform a dissection and extraction. For instance, the pretty old Fuji S3 pro is pretty simple, the even older Nikon D1 is even simpler, even I could tackle the task on a D1 I expect.
Lifepixel has detailed instructions with illustrations of how to remove the filter from a large number of cameras, so go and browse through them and see which cameras look feasible for your skill level and which look like a nightmare better left to someone else.
I did that and decided that I preferred to buy a cheap old D50 that didn't need surgery to work rather than a more modern camera that would require opening up and operating on as my skill level with such fiddly task is rather limited (or rather, my confidence in my skills). _________________ I don't care who designed it, who made it or what country it comes from - I just enjoy using it! |
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tomasg
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Posted: Tue Oct 01, 2013 5:11 pm Post subject: |
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tomasg wrote:
You proved that you don t need to do any work on the sensor, i really like your pictures. Maybe one day i ll remove the AA filter on the D50, jusat to see the results, the problem is it has to be replaced by something, at least i think so. I think it would be doable, i just cleaned my AF Nikkor 35/2, the infamous lens for oily aperture blades, the lens was unusable stopped down, it s working perfectly now.
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iangreenhalgh1
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Posted: Tue Oct 01, 2013 5:18 pm Post subject: |
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iangreenhalgh1 wrote:
Yes, I agree, something needs to go in it's place to protect the sensor and ensure focus properties. Most people cut a square out of a 49mm UV filter.
Congratulations on the aperture repair! _________________ I don't care who designed it, who made it or what country it comes from - I just enjoy using it! |
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