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patrickh
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 Posted: Mon Jun 06, 2011 10:21 pm Post subject: Schneider Componon-S 100/5.6 |
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patrickh wrote:
We have had a good run of el-nikkors and rodagons, but I was introduced to this lens by klaus as one of the best. I am inclined to agree with him,and here are three I took yesterday in our first vaguely decent day of weather this year (except for the thunderstorms).
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M42: Vivitar 28/2.5, Tamron 28/2.5, Formula5 28/2.8, Mamiya 28/2.8, Pentacon 29/2.8, Flektogon 35/2.4, Flektogon 35/2.8, Takumar 35/3.5, Curtagon 35/4, Takumar 50/1.4, Volna-6 50/2.8 macro, Mamiya 50/1.4, CZJ Pancolar 50/1,8, Oreston 50/1.8, Takumar 50/2, Industar 50/3.5, Sears 55/1.4, Helios 58/2, Jupiter 85/2, Helios 85/1.5, Takumar 105/2.8, Steinheil macro 105/4.5, Tamron 135/2.5, Jupiter 135/4, CZ 135/4, Steinheil Culminar 135/4,5, Jupiter 135/3.5, Takumar 135/3.5, Tair 135/2.8, Pentacon 135/2.8, CZ 135/2.8, Taika 135/3.5, Takumar 150/4, Jupiter 200/4, Takumar 200/4
Exakta: Topcon 100/2.8(M42), 35/2.8, 58/1.8, 135/2.8, 135/2.8 (M42), Kyoei Acall 135/3.5
C/Y: Yashica 28/2.8, 50/1.7, 135/2.8, Zeiss Planar 50/1.4, Distagon 25/2.8
Hexanon: 28/3.5, 35/2.8, 40/1.8, 50/1.7, 52/1.8, 135/3.2, 135/3.5, 35-70/3.5, 200/3.5
P6 : Mir 38 65/3.5, Biometar 80/2.8, Kaleinar 150/2.8, Sonnar 180/2.8
Minolta SR: 28/2.8, 28/3.5, 35/2.8, 45/2, 50/2, 58/1.4, 50/1.7, 135/2.8, 200/3.5
RF: Industar 53/2.8, Jupiter 8 50/2
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kds315*
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kds315* wrote:
shhhh - you're not supposed to reveal "our" secrets!!! 
Very fine results btw.!!
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Pentax Quartz Takumar f3.5/85mm
Carl Zeiss Jena UV-Objektiv f4/60mm
NYE OPTICAL Lyman-Alpha II f1.1/90mm
NYE OPTICAL Lyman-Alpha I f2.8/200mm
COASTAL OPTICS f4/60mm UV-VIS-IR Apo
COASTAL OPTICS f4.5/105mm UV-Micro-Apo
Pentax Ultra-Achromatic Takumar f4.5/85mm
Pentax Ultra-Achromatic Takumar f5.6/300mm
Rodenstock UV-Rodagon f5.6/60mm + 105mm + 150mm
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carlosayala
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carlosayala wrote:
Wow 
This sharpnesssss is epic!
what is your setup and camera?
using some kind of bellows?
I just bought one Schneider Componon-S 100/5.6 but not know what to do...
Please help me 
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Attila
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Attila wrote:
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Wow
This sharpnesssss is epic!
what is your setup and camera?
using some kind of bellows?
I just bought one Schneider Componon-S 100/5.6 but not know what to do...
Please help me |
http://forum.mflenses.com/the-vnex-system-t54300.html
Patrick, superb!
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kds315*
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kds315* wrote:
Gosh what exaggerations, "epic"...
Can we just say "very sharp"?
It's an excellent lens, agreed, I have ut snd use it since quite some time.
But there is even better, a Focotar II 100mm for instance.
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https://www.flickr.com/photos/kds315/albums my albums using various lenses
http://photographyoftheinvisibleworld.blogspot.com/ my UV BLOG
http://www.travelmeetsfood.com/blog Food + Travel BLOG
https://galeriafotografia.com Architecture + Drone photography
Currently most FAV lens(es):
X80QF f3.2/80mm
Hypergon f11/26mm
ELCAN UV f5.6/52mm
Zeiss UV-Planar f4/60mm
Zeiss UV-Planar f2/62mm
Lomo Уфар-12 f2.5/41mm
Lomo Зуфар-2 f4.0/350mm
Lomo ZIKAR-1A f1.2/100mm
Nikon UV Nikkor f4.5/105mm
Zeiss UV-Sonnar f4.3/105mm
CERCO UV-VIS-NIR f1.8/45mm
CERCO UV-VIS-NIR f4.1/94mm
CERCO UV-VIS-NIR f2.8/100mm
Steinheil Quarzobjektiv f1.8/50mm
Pentax Quartz Takumar f3.5/85mm
Carl Zeiss Jena UV-Objektiv f4/60mm
NYE OPTICAL Lyman-Alpha II f1.1/90mm
NYE OPTICAL Lyman-Alpha I f2.8/200mm
COASTAL OPTICS f4/60mm UV-VIS-IR Apo
COASTAL OPTICS f4.5/105mm UV-Micro-Apo
Pentax Ultra-Achromatic Takumar f4.5/85mm
Pentax Ultra-Achromatic Takumar f5.6/300mm
Rodenstock UV-Rodagon f5.6/60mm + 105mm + 150mm
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carlosayala
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carlosayala wrote:
Sorry for my exaggeration but I'm new at this ..
Otherwise... I photograph nature and insects with Tokina 100mm macro lens sometimes.
Usually used a Nikkor 35mm G lens on reverse (with BR-2 adapter).
Would be better if I buy a Raynox MSN-202..? better than Schneider Componon 100mm+macro bellows setup?
Thanks again!
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martinsmith99
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martinsmith99 wrote:
It can be surprising when new, the quality of lenses that are used here, so I understand your reaction. Plus Patrick is a more than capable photographer and knows how to get what you call `epic' results.
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fuzzywuzzy
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fuzzywuzzy wrote:
| carlosayala wrote: |
Sorry for my exaggeration but I'm new at this ..
Otherwise... I photograph nature and insects with Tokina 100mm macro lens sometimes.
Usually used a Nikkor 35mm G lens on reverse (with BR-2 adapter).
Would be better if I buy a Raynox MSN-202..? better than Schneider Componon 100mm+macro bellows setup?
Thanks again! |
"better" is such a tricky word! Any rig for taking closeups is a compromise of
IQ
ergonomics/bulk/weight
price
focal length (which affects working distance)
magnification
Is this the Tokina 100mm macro you use? Seems like a fine lens!
http://kenrockwell.com/tokina/100mm-f28.htm
http://photography-on-the.net/forum/showthread.php?p=10044609
My own attempt at macro have taught me that nice glass is only part of the puzzle.
Composition must make the best use of the tiny DoF.
Shutter speed/motion blur is a constant problem. You'll need some combination of practice, high ISO settings, off-camera flash, sunny days, tripod, focusing rail.
Why not post some sample shots
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poilu wrote:
superb series, great details from the Componon !
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carlosayala
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carlosayala wrote:
| fuzzywuzzy wrote: |
| carlosayala wrote: |
Sorry for my exaggeration but I'm new at this ..
Otherwise... I photograph nature and insects with Tokina 100mm macro lens sometimes.
Usually used a Nikkor 35mm G lens on reverse (with BR-2 adapter).
Would be better if I buy a Raynox MSN-202..? better than Schneider Componon 100mm+macro bellows setup?
Thanks again! |
"better" is such a tricky word! Any rig for taking closeups is a compromise of
IQ
ergonomics/bulk/weight
price
focal length (which affects working distance)
magnification
Is this the Tokina 100mm macro you use? Seems like a fine lens!
http://kenrockwell.com/tokina/100mm-f28.htm
http://photography-on-the.net/forum/showthread.php?p=10044609
My own attempt at macro have taught me that nice glass is only part of the puzzle.
Composition must make the best use of the tiny DoF.
Shutter speed/motion blur is a constant problem. You'll need some combination of practice, high ISO settings, off-camera flash, sunny days, tripod, focusing rail.
Why not post some sample shots |
Thanks for your time.
This pic is with Nikon D7000 + Tokina 100mm macro
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carlosayala
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| Posted: Thu Jul 11, 2013 3:46 pm Post subject: Re: Schneider Componon-S 100/5.6 |
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carlosayala wrote:
| patrickh wrote: |
We have had a good run of el-nikkors and rodagons, but I was introduced to this lens by klaus as one of the best. I am inclined to agree with him,and here are three I took yesterday in our first vaguely decent day of weather this year (except for the thunderstorms).
patrickh |
Patrickh, please
In this set of photos the Schneider Componon is mount on bellows or what type of mounting use?
I would like to know what kind of camera you used?
Thank you very much for your help
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patrickh
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patrickh wrote:
@carlos
A Nikon D300S with a nikon II bellows on a tripod. Lens had M39/M42 ring and an M42/Nikon adapter. All settings manual. I found it a very simple setup and it balanced pretty well. I have used this setup for a lot of flower and other closeups and find it very comfortable to work with because of the distance one can keep from the subject. Shorter FL requires much closer work and much more difficult lighting. I am lazy and do not use flash.
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MF Zooms: Kiron 28-85/3.5, 28-105/3.2, 75-150/3.5, Nikkor 50-135/3.5 AIS // MF Primes: Nikkor 20/4 AI, 24/2 AI, 28/2 AI, 28/2.8 AIS, 28/3.5 AI, 35/1.4 AIS, 35/2 AIS, 35/2.8 PC, 45/2.8 P, 50/1.4 AIS, 50/1.8 AIS, 50/2 AI, 55/2.8 AIS micro, 55/3.5 AI micro, 85/2 AI, 100/2,8 E, 105/1,8 AIS, 105/2,5 AIS, 135/2 AIS, 135/2.8 AIS, 200/4 AI, 200/4 AIS micro, 300/4.5 AI, 300/4.5 AI ED, Arsat 50/1.4, Kiron 28/2, Vivitar 28/2.5, Panagor 135/2.8, Tamron 28/2.5, Tamron 90/2.5 macro, Vivitar 90/2.5 macro (Tokina) Voigtlander 90/3.5 Vivitar 105/2.5 macro (Kiron) Kaleinar 100/2.8 AI Tamron 135/2.5, Vivitar 135/2.8CF, 200/3.5, Tokina 400/5,6
M42: Vivitar 28/2.5, Tamron 28/2.5, Formula5 28/2.8, Mamiya 28/2.8, Pentacon 29/2.8, Flektogon 35/2.4, Flektogon 35/2.8, Takumar 35/3.5, Curtagon 35/4, Takumar 50/1.4, Volna-6 50/2.8 macro, Mamiya 50/1.4, CZJ Pancolar 50/1,8, Oreston 50/1.8, Takumar 50/2, Industar 50/3.5, Sears 55/1.4, Helios 58/2, Jupiter 85/2, Helios 85/1.5, Takumar 105/2.8, Steinheil macro 105/4.5, Tamron 135/2.5, Jupiter 135/4, CZ 135/4, Steinheil Culminar 135/4,5, Jupiter 135/3.5, Takumar 135/3.5, Tair 135/2.8, Pentacon 135/2.8, CZ 135/2.8, Taika 135/3.5, Takumar 150/4, Jupiter 200/4, Takumar 200/4
Exakta: Topcon 100/2.8(M42), 35/2.8, 58/1.8, 135/2.8, 135/2.8 (M42), Kyoei Acall 135/3.5
C/Y: Yashica 28/2.8, 50/1.7, 135/2.8, Zeiss Planar 50/1.4, Distagon 25/2.8
Hexanon: 28/3.5, 35/2.8, 40/1.8, 50/1.7, 52/1.8, 135/3.2, 135/3.5, 35-70/3.5, 200/3.5
P6 : Mir 38 65/3.5, Biometar 80/2.8, Kaleinar 150/2.8, Sonnar 180/2.8
Minolta SR: 28/2.8, 28/3.5, 35/2.8, 45/2, 50/2, 58/1.4, 50/1.7, 135/2.8, 200/3.5
RF: Industar 53/2.8, Jupiter 8 50/2
Enlarg: Rodagon 50/5,6, 80/5,6, 105/5.6, Vario 44-52/4, 150/5.6 180/5.6 El Nikkor 50/2,8,63/2.8,75/4, 80/5,6, 105/5.6, 135/5.6 Schneider 60/5.6, 80/5.6, 80/4S,100/5.6S,105/5.6,135/5.6, 135/5.6S, 150/5.6S, Leica 95/4 |
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martinsmith99
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martinsmith99 wrote:
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That's amazing!!
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carlosayala
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carlosayala wrote:
Thanks for your time Patrickh.
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patrickh
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patrickh wrote:
Welcome and good luck
patrickh
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DSLR: Nikon D300 Nikon D200 Nex 5N
MF Zooms: Kiron 28-85/3.5, 28-105/3.2, 75-150/3.5, Nikkor 50-135/3.5 AIS // MF Primes: Nikkor 20/4 AI, 24/2 AI, 28/2 AI, 28/2.8 AIS, 28/3.5 AI, 35/1.4 AIS, 35/2 AIS, 35/2.8 PC, 45/2.8 P, 50/1.4 AIS, 50/1.8 AIS, 50/2 AI, 55/2.8 AIS micro, 55/3.5 AI micro, 85/2 AI, 100/2,8 E, 105/1,8 AIS, 105/2,5 AIS, 135/2 AIS, 135/2.8 AIS, 200/4 AI, 200/4 AIS micro, 300/4.5 AI, 300/4.5 AI ED, Arsat 50/1.4, Kiron 28/2, Vivitar 28/2.5, Panagor 135/2.8, Tamron 28/2.5, Tamron 90/2.5 macro, Vivitar 90/2.5 macro (Tokina) Voigtlander 90/3.5 Vivitar 105/2.5 macro (Kiron) Kaleinar 100/2.8 AI Tamron 135/2.5, Vivitar 135/2.8CF, 200/3.5, Tokina 400/5,6
M42: Vivitar 28/2.5, Tamron 28/2.5, Formula5 28/2.8, Mamiya 28/2.8, Pentacon 29/2.8, Flektogon 35/2.4, Flektogon 35/2.8, Takumar 35/3.5, Curtagon 35/4, Takumar 50/1.4, Volna-6 50/2.8 macro, Mamiya 50/1.4, CZJ Pancolar 50/1,8, Oreston 50/1.8, Takumar 50/2, Industar 50/3.5, Sears 55/1.4, Helios 58/2, Jupiter 85/2, Helios 85/1.5, Takumar 105/2.8, Steinheil macro 105/4.5, Tamron 135/2.5, Jupiter 135/4, CZ 135/4, Steinheil Culminar 135/4,5, Jupiter 135/3.5, Takumar 135/3.5, Tair 135/2.8, Pentacon 135/2.8, CZ 135/2.8, Taika 135/3.5, Takumar 150/4, Jupiter 200/4, Takumar 200/4
Exakta: Topcon 100/2.8(M42), 35/2.8, 58/1.8, 135/2.8, 135/2.8 (M42), Kyoei Acall 135/3.5
C/Y: Yashica 28/2.8, 50/1.7, 135/2.8, Zeiss Planar 50/1.4, Distagon 25/2.8
Hexanon: 28/3.5, 35/2.8, 40/1.8, 50/1.7, 52/1.8, 135/3.2, 135/3.5, 35-70/3.5, 200/3.5
P6 : Mir 38 65/3.5, Biometar 80/2.8, Kaleinar 150/2.8, Sonnar 180/2.8
Minolta SR: 28/2.8, 28/3.5, 35/2.8, 45/2, 50/2, 58/1.4, 50/1.7, 135/2.8, 200/3.5
RF: Industar 53/2.8, Jupiter 8 50/2
Enlarg: Rodagon 50/5,6, 80/5,6, 105/5.6, Vario 44-52/4, 150/5.6 180/5.6 El Nikkor 50/2,8,63/2.8,75/4, 80/5,6, 105/5.6, 135/5.6 Schneider 60/5.6, 80/5.6, 80/4S,100/5.6S,105/5.6,135/5.6, 135/5.6S, 150/5.6S, Leica 95/4 |
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