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Orio
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Posted: Sat Jun 29, 2013 12:04 am Post subject: Product shots |
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Orio wrote:
Please let me know which one would you choose
(please don't mind the small imperfections etc. which will be cloned out or fixed in Photoshop)
# 1
# 2
# 3
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Attila
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Posted: Sat Jun 29, 2013 12:12 am Post subject: |
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Attila wrote:
#2 what I like best. _________________ -------------------------------
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philslizzy
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Posted: Sat Jun 29, 2013 12:37 am Post subject: |
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philslizzy wrote:
No 2 more natural. And its obvious it is a clear liquid as opposed to a cream, which it could be in the other shots
. I have been doing product shots too and the problem is shadows. Natural or not, the brochure wants pure white backgrounds. lots of pp!
mine. Taken with Nikon d3200 and 18-55 kit lens. One flash bounced off ceiling.
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mo
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Posted: Sat Jun 29, 2013 2:27 am Post subject: |
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mo wrote:
I like #3 because it has that "little extra" style, finish...#2 looks like what it is a Nivea product,a true representation of the product. _________________ Moira, Moderator
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fermy
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Posted: Sat Jun 29, 2013 3:08 am Post subject: |
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fermy wrote:
I am with mo, prefer #3. #2 has a shadow and a reflection. I think a reflection is a nice touch and can be slightly more pronounced, the shadow though is distracting. _________________ Many lenses and some film bodies for sale here: http://forum.mflenses.com/canon-fd-minolta-md-c-mounts-m42-pentax-and-more-t50465.html
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Orio
Joined: 24 Feb 2007 Posts: 29545 Location: West Emilia
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Posted: Sat Jun 29, 2013 7:26 am Post subject: |
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Orio wrote:
Thanks for your comments! I found a piece of opaline perspex at the hardware store and I bought it
because I need it to photograph leaves.
Then I thought it could be nice to try it with some translucent object.
After trying it, I can't see any particular advantage over using a traditional set. It eliminates the shadow, but that can be
done simpler with a fill light.
The main light in all 3 shots is a flash with umbrella. There is no fill light.
In #1 and #3 I put a flash under the perspex and oriented it to obtain a light gradient.
In #2 I turned the under flash off, and that is why you see the shadow and the reflection. _________________ Orio, Administrator
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inombrable
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Posted: Sat Jun 29, 2013 9:08 am Post subject: |
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inombrable wrote:
fermy wrote: |
I am with mo, prefer #3. #2 has a shadow and a reflection. I think a reflection is a nice touch and can be slightly more pronounced, the shadow though is distracting. |
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tomasg
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Posted: Sat Jun 29, 2013 9:20 am Post subject: |
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tomasg wrote:
The shadow and reflection in #2 makes it look like we see it in our everyday life, making it more natural in #1 and #3 it just "floats" somewhere, making it much more like one of those product shots you can see on big panels on a road, for example. Though less natural and fake, in this case i prefer that look, so #3 for me.
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LucisPictor
Joined: 26 Feb 2007 Posts: 17633 Location: Oberhessen, Germany / Maidstone ('95-'96)
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Posted: Sat Jun 29, 2013 9:59 am Post subject: |
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LucisPictor wrote:
With the different lighting, it seems to be two different products (in #1 and #3 on the one hand and #2 on the other).
For a professional product shot (as in advertising) I would consider the shadow to be disturbing, so either #1 or #3, where #3 is a little more "dramatic" than #1. _________________ Personal forum activity on pause every now and again (due to job obligations)!
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Excalibur
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Posted: Sat Jun 29, 2013 12:47 pm Post subject: |
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Excalibur wrote:
Well #2 for me as the others seem to be floating in mid air. _________________ Canon A1, AV1, T70 & T90, EOS 300 and EOS300v, Chinon CE and CP-7M. Contax 139, Fuji STX-2, Konica Autoreflex TC, FS-1, FT-1, Minolta X-700, X-300, XD-11, SRT101b, Nikon EM, FM, F4, F90X, Olympus OM2, Pentax S3, Spotmatic, Pentax ME super, Praktica TL 5B, & BC1, , Ricoh KR10super, Yashica T5D, Bronica Etrs, Mamiya RB67 pro AND drum roll:- a Sony Nex 3
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Orio
Joined: 24 Feb 2007 Posts: 29545 Location: West Emilia
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Posted: Sat Jun 29, 2013 1:48 pm Post subject: |
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Orio wrote:
Excalibur wrote: |
Well #2 for me as the others seem to be floating in mid air. |
Yes, no shadow makes it sort of abstract.
Lighting from below has one advantage though. Helps defining the glass shape better.
Without, the glass looks somehow flat. _________________ Orio, Administrator
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cooltouch
Joined: 15 Jan 2009 Posts: 9098 Location: Houston, Texas
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Posted: Sat Jun 29, 2013 3:30 pm Post subject: |
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cooltouch wrote:
I prefer number 1. Number two has a shadow, as well as a reflection, the latter which I find most distracting. Number 3's background is not as even as number 1's -- there's almost a hard separation there instead of a smooth gradation. So, number 1 because no distracting shadow or reflections and smooth background shading. _________________ Michael
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Orio
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Posted: Sat Jun 29, 2013 4:31 pm Post subject: |
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Orio wrote:
cooltouch wrote: |
I prefer number 1. Number two has a shadow, as well as a reflection, the latter which I find most distracting. Number 3's background is not as even as number 1's -- there's almost a hard separation there instead of a smooth gradation. So, number 1 because no distracting shadow or reflections and smooth background shading. |
I too think that gradient in #3 is not so good.
I also think I maybe prefer #1, because of smooth gradient and because there is some shape (dimension) to the bottle.
#2, I actually like the reflection, but the bottle looks too flat for my taste. _________________ Orio, Administrator
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cooltouch
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Posted: Sat Jun 29, 2013 4:36 pm Post subject: |
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cooltouch wrote:
I guess the reason why I find the reflection distracting is because it comes across to me as being an artifact, or an unintentional result. If I wanted the reflection, I would emphasize it more, doing whatever would be necessary to bring it more to the fore, and play around some with angles and the doubled image of the original and its reflection. It could end up being quite effective. _________________ Michael
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visualopsins
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Posted: Sat Jun 29, 2013 4:52 pm Post subject: |
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visualopsins wrote:
Orio wrote: |
Thanks for your comments! I found a piece of opaline perspex at the hardware store and I bought it
because I need it to photograph leaves.
Then I thought it could be nice to try it with some translucent object.
After trying it, I can't see any particular advantage over using a traditional set. It eliminates the shadow, but that can be
done simpler with a fill light.
The main light in all 3 shots is a flash with umbrella. There is no fill light.
In #1 and #3 I put a flash under the perspex and oriented it to obtain a light gradient.
In #2 I turned the under flash off, and that is why you see the shadow and the reflection. |
Interesting how the glass looks better in #1 & #3, but the contents look better in #2. I think somewhere in-between might be just right. I find the gradient disturbing, but it does add a sense of depth, making the product more 3D. _________________ ☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮ like attracts like! ☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮
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Posted: Sat Jul 06, 2013 3:09 pm Post subject: |
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ForenSeil wrote:
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