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Contemplating Upgrading to Canon 6D Full Frame DSLR
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 02, 2012 3:58 pm    Post subject: Contemplating Upgrading to Canon 6D Full Frame DSLR Reply with quote

I've been shooting with the 60D which I like but it's a crop sensor (1.6X). One of the things I like about it is the relatively small size compared to the 7D which has the same sensor.

If it's a large as the 7D, I will most likely not upgrade as I do a lot of hand-held work.

I have never shot full frame DSLR, but was a full frame film shooter for decades. Razz

My concerns are:
Size of the body (as per above).

Will I be able to use my current lenses? I'm especially concerned about the Canon EF (AF) lenses I own plus my manual focus macro lenses:
Zeiss 60/2.8 Makro-Planar
Micro Nikkor 105/2.8

I would be doing this for a gain in IQ. I rarely shoot wide lenses.

Thoughts?


PostPosted: Tue Oct 02, 2012 4:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The EF lenses probably won't work, or if they did, vignette pretty badly.

The manual lenses should be fine; only thing to worry about would be wide angles (mirror-hitting issue--won't know till people start trying lenses).

I think 6D is great and I'm contemplating whether to upgrade to it from my 5Dmk2.


PostPosted: Tue Oct 02, 2012 5:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

All EF lenses will work on the 6D. The EF-S lens won't.

The 6D is about as big as the 7D but it's very pleasant to use. I was playing with it at the Photokina.

The excellent thing is, based on my first impression, that the mirror box and the mirror seems to leave more space for lens rear parts than in the 5D series!!
If that turns out to be the case, that is great news for manual lens users!


PostPosted: Wed Oct 03, 2012 8:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks Rawhead and Carsten.

Apparently my 85/1.8 & 50/1.4 are EF lenses. Good news.

I may just wait until the drop near $1500.

Will I be able to see an IQ difference beyond getting full frame coverage from all my lenses?

My 60D has 96% viewfinder coverage. The 6D has 97%! Woohoo!
Razz


PostPosted: Thu Oct 04, 2012 9:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

LucisPictor wrote:
The excellent thing is, based on my first impression, that the mirror box and the mirror seems to leave more space for lens rear parts than in the 5D series!!
If that turns out to be the case, that is great news for manual lens users!


How have you worked this out? If so I will definitely buy one! I'm seriously considering one as it is Very Happy


PostPosted: Thu Oct 04, 2012 9:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Have you bought a 6D Carsten?


PostPosted: Tue Dec 04, 2012 5:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

the gps is a dream device ... Laughing Laughing
one TomTom inside a 6D ... Laughing


PostPosted: Tue Dec 04, 2012 7:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've just ordered mine Very Happy

I was going to wait for the price to drop to £1500.00, but Panamoz surprised me with an even lower price Shocked Should be here next week! Cool


PostPosted: Tue Dec 04, 2012 7:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

what are the main differences between the 6d and the 5dmkii?
tony


PostPosted: Tue Dec 04, 2012 7:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

rbelyell wrote:
what are the main differences between the 6d and the 5dmkii?

Here they are:
http://snapsort.com/compare/Canon-EOS-6D-vs-Canon_EOS_5D_Mark_II


PostPosted: Tue Dec 04, 2012 7:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The key improvements for me over the 5D II are:

* Cleaner high ISO, and from the limited samples around, it looks better than the 5D III too
* Better LCD
* GPS
* Wi Fi and remote control via Apple / Android devices
* Smaller, lighter body
* Ability to set a minimum shutter speed when using auto ISO (useful with old lenses)
* Weather resistant (more so than the 5D II)
* More sensitive centre AF point

Disadvantages:

* Slower max shutter speed of 1/4000th second compared to 1/8000th second
* Need new software to process the files (I've just bought Lightroom and PS Elements, neither of which support it...yet)


PostPosted: Tue Dec 04, 2012 8:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ManualFocus-G wrote:
The key improvements for me over the 5D II are:

* Cleaner high ISO, and from the limited samples around, it looks better than the 5D III too
* Better LCD
* GPS


I heard that the GPS costs and additional $800 USD.

ManualFocus-G wrote:
Disadvantages:

* Need new software to process the files (I've just bought Lightroom and PS Elements, neither of which support it...yet)


This I REALLY hate when updating to a new camera. So I imagine CS5 will not support it? I do hate Canon/Apple for this.


PostPosted: Tue Dec 04, 2012 8:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

That's right, you'll need a new version of PS I'm afraid!

GPS and WiFi is free though, there's no additional cost Smile


PostPosted: Tue Dec 04, 2012 8:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ManualFocus-G wrote:
LucisPictor wrote:
The excellent thing is, based on my first impression, that the mirror box and the mirror seems to leave more space for lens rear parts than in the 5D series!!
If that turns out to be the case, that is great news for manual lens users!


How have you worked this out? If so I will definitely buy one! I'm seriously considering one as it is Very Happy

Orio wrote:
Have you bought a 6D Carsten?


Sorry, guys, for the late answer. Just didn't see this thread any more.

No, I have not bought one, but if I need to replace my 5D one day, it will rather be a 6D than any later version of the 5D.

I have played with it at the Photokina and it really felt great. Henry and I looked into the mirror box and it seemed to us that is was wider than in the 5D version. The Canon guys at the booth confirmed that.


PostPosted: Tue Dec 04, 2012 9:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ManualFocus-G wrote:
That's right, you'll need a new version of PS I'm afraid!

GPS and WiFi is free though, there's no additional cost Smile


Thnaks G. Well that's something. I may unlike most users but if the camera was simply manual, I'd be happy. I never use any of the modes, automatic anything. I will only use WIFI if I get hired for some journalistic gig (highly unlikely).

Off to see how much an upgrade will cost me.
<grumble>

Upgrade is $399. So $2500. Doesn't sound like a good deal to me now. I'll get one when I can for $1500, maybe in a year?


PostPosted: Tue Dec 04, 2012 9:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I paid £1265 for mine, which is an amazing price. 5D II is still good value too at £1080.


PostPosted: Fri Dec 07, 2012 5:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Here we go...



PostPosted: Sun Dec 09, 2012 6:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

High ISO samples, no noise reduction...JPG conversions from RAW:

ISO 6400



ISO 6400



ISO 12800



PostPosted: Sun Dec 09, 2012 7:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Graham, not bad! Have any 100% crops?


PostPosted: Sun Dec 09, 2012 7:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Here's one:



Bear in mind this was shot at f/1.4, so not very sharp Smile


PostPosted: Mon Dec 10, 2012 12:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

For 6400- looks quite good. I rarely shoot any of my serious work above 200 ISO, so if it was very good at say 400, I would be thrilled.

Thanks very much for sharing these, Graham!


PostPosted: Wed Dec 26, 2012 1:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

and what about of 6d' shadows recovering ?
and it is true that you can recover a picture under-exposed of 4/5 f-stop with 6d ?
and what about of banding/noise with this 6d ?


PostPosted: Sun Dec 30, 2012 8:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Not sure about 4 or 5 stops, but there is no banding that I can see when I raise the exposure by 3 stops. The camera is much better than the 5D II and III in this regard Smile Will try 5 stops if I find some time Smile