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alexthekid
Joined: 11 May 2012 Posts: 26
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Posted: Tue May 29, 2012 9:19 am Post subject: MD and FD on EOS |
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alexthekid wrote:
Hey guys. In the last couple of months i saw a bunch of Canon FD and Minolta MD lenses selling for cheap. Various 50mm f/1.4 or similar for 20-30 euros, with the camera. I know there is no infinity with them, on EOS, but what maximum focus distance could i get, if i mount them with glassless adapters? Will they be usable for headshots and similar close-up photography? Does anyone have some experience with them on Canon? |
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walter g
Joined: 20 Feb 2010 Posts: 2463 Location: NC, USA
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Posted: Tue May 29, 2012 8:29 pm Post subject: Re: MD and FD on EOS |
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walter g wrote:
alexthekid wrote: |
Hey guys. In the last couple of months i saw a bunch of Canon FD and Minolta MD lenses selling for cheap. Various 50mm f/1.4 or similar for 20-30 euros, with the camera. I know there is no infinity with them, on EOS, but what maximum focus distance could i get, if i mount them with glassless adapters? Will they be usable for headshots and similar close-up photography? Does anyone have some experience with them on Canon? |
Macro only. Longer focal lengths gives you a little more shooting distance.I'd say go for it. If you can buy them that cheap. You can always shoot them on film bodies, which is alot of fun.
The price of used M4/3, and Sony Nex bodies have came way down, so that's a good option also. _________________
Main cameras
Panasonic G5,Nikon J1,Pentax Q10,Sony Nex 6
Minolta MC W SI 2.5/28, MD 2.8/28, MC W SG 3.5/28, MC Celtic 3.5/28, MC W HG 2.8/35, MD Celtic 2.8/35, QE 4/35, Rokkor X 2/45, MC Rokkor X PG 1.4/50, MC Rokkor X PG 1.7/50, MD Rokkor X 1.7/50, MD 2/50, MC Rokkor PF 1.7/55, MC Rokkor PF 1.9/55, Auto Tele Rokkor PG 2.8/135, MC Tele Rokkor QD 3.5/135, TC 4/135, MC Celtic 4/200, MC Tele Rokkor PE 4.5/200
MD 28-70 f3.5-4.8, MD Macro 35-70 f3.5, Md 70-210 f4, MD Rokkor X 75-200 f4.5, MD 100-200 f5.6
Nikon Nikkor 4/20, O Auto 2/35, S Auto 1.4/50..... Miranda Auto 2.8/28, Auto 2.8/35, Auto 1.4/50, Auto EC 1.4/50, Auto 1.8/50, Auto EC 1.8/50,Auto 1.9/50, Auto 3.5/135
Various Soligor,Sun,Fujita,Komura,Spitatone, etc. Lenses
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alexthekid
Joined: 11 May 2012 Posts: 26
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Posted: Tue May 29, 2012 9:14 pm Post subject: |
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alexthekid wrote:
Well, that's a shame. I was hoping for at least 2-3 meters. Anyway, thank you, Walter, for the info. |
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walter g
Joined: 20 Feb 2010 Posts: 2463 Location: NC, USA
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Posted: Tue May 29, 2012 9:32 pm Post subject: |
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walter g wrote:
alexthekid wrote: |
Well, that's a shame. I was hoping for at least 2-3 meters. Anyway, thank you, Walter, for the info. |
Here's a picture I just took, with my Minolta 50 1.4 at 5.6, set at infinity on my Canon EOS 10D body.
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Main cameras
Panasonic G5,Nikon J1,Pentax Q10,Sony Nex 6
Minolta MC W SI 2.5/28, MD 2.8/28, MC W SG 3.5/28, MC Celtic 3.5/28, MC W HG 2.8/35, MD Celtic 2.8/35, QE 4/35, Rokkor X 2/45, MC Rokkor X PG 1.4/50, MC Rokkor X PG 1.7/50, MD Rokkor X 1.7/50, MD 2/50, MC Rokkor PF 1.7/55, MC Rokkor PF 1.9/55, Auto Tele Rokkor PG 2.8/135, MC Tele Rokkor QD 3.5/135, TC 4/135, MC Celtic 4/200, MC Tele Rokkor PE 4.5/200
MD 28-70 f3.5-4.8, MD Macro 35-70 f3.5, Md 70-210 f4, MD Rokkor X 75-200 f4.5, MD 100-200 f5.6
Nikon Nikkor 4/20, O Auto 2/35, S Auto 1.4/50..... Miranda Auto 2.8/28, Auto 2.8/35, Auto 1.4/50, Auto EC 1.4/50, Auto 1.8/50, Auto EC 1.8/50,Auto 1.9/50, Auto 3.5/135
Various Soligor,Sun,Fujita,Komura,Spitatone, etc. Lenses
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alexthekid
Joined: 11 May 2012 Posts: 26
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Posted: Tue May 29, 2012 10:05 pm Post subject: |
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alexthekid wrote:
That's really close for infinity.
I love macro and close-up photography and i have the ef-s 60 macro for that. So i will probably pass. Or maybe i should get something like a NEX |
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patrickh
Joined: 23 Aug 2007 Posts: 8551 Location: Oregon
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Posted: Tue May 29, 2012 11:42 pm Post subject: |
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patrickh wrote:
I have no wish to cause a flame, but did Canon abandon its older users so completely they did not even provide for an adapter? That is cold profit seeking if I ever heard it
patrickh _________________ DSLR: Nikon D300 Nikon D200 Nex 5N
MF Zooms: Kiron 28-85/3.5, 28-105/3.2, 75-150/3.5, Nikkor 50-135/3.5 AIS // MF Primes: Nikkor 20/4 AI, 24/2 AI, 28/2 AI, 28/2.8 AIS, 28/3.5 AI, 35/1.4 AIS, 35/2 AIS, 35/2.8 PC, 45/2.8 P, 50/1.4 AIS, 50/1.8 AIS, 50/2 AI, 55/2.8 AIS micro, 55/3.5 AI micro, 85/2 AI, 100/2,8 E, 105/1,8 AIS, 105/2,5 AIS, 135/2 AIS, 135/2.8 AIS, 200/4 AI, 200/4 AIS micro, 300/4.5 AI, 300/4.5 AI ED, Arsat 50/1.4, Kiron 28/2, Vivitar 28/2.5, Panagor 135/2.8, Tamron 28/2.5, Tamron 90/2.5 macro, Vivitar 90/2.5 macro (Tokina) Voigtlander 90/3.5 Vivitar 105/2.5 macro (Kiron) Kaleinar 100/2.8 AI Tamron 135/2.5, Vivitar 135/2.8CF, 200/3.5, Tokina 400/5,6
M42: Vivitar 28/2.5, Tamron 28/2.5, Formula5 28/2.8, Mamiya 28/2.8, Pentacon 29/2.8, Flektogon 35/2.4, Flektogon 35/2.8, Takumar 35/3.5, Curtagon 35/4, Takumar 50/1.4, Volna-6 50/2.8 macro, Mamiya 50/1.4, CZJ Pancolar 50/1,8, Oreston 50/1.8, Takumar 50/2, Industar 50/3.5, Sears 55/1.4, Helios 58/2, Jupiter 85/2, Helios 85/1.5, Takumar 105/2.8, Steinheil macro 105/4.5, Tamron 135/2.5, Jupiter 135/4, CZ 135/4, Steinheil Culminar 135/4,5, Jupiter 135/3.5, Takumar 135/3.5, Tair 135/2.8, Pentacon 135/2.8, CZ 135/2.8, Taika 135/3.5, Takumar 150/4, Jupiter 200/4, Takumar 200/4
Exakta: Topcon 100/2.8(M42), 35/2.8, 58/1.8, 135/2.8, 135/2.8 (M42), Kyoei Acall 135/3.5
C/Y: Yashica 28/2.8, 50/1.7, 135/2.8, Zeiss Planar 50/1.4, Distagon 25/2.8
Hexanon: 28/3.5, 35/2.8, 40/1.8, 50/1.7, 52/1.8, 135/3.2, 135/3.5, 35-70/3.5, 200/3.5
P6 : Mir 38 65/3.5, Biometar 80/2.8, Kaleinar 150/2.8, Sonnar 180/2.8
Minolta SR: 28/2.8, 28/3.5, 35/2.8, 45/2, 50/2, 58/1.4, 50/1.7, 135/2.8, 200/3.5
RF: Industar 53/2.8, Jupiter 8 50/2
Enlarg: Rodagon 50/5,6, 80/5,6, 105/5.6, Vario 44-52/4, 150/5.6 180/5.6 El Nikkor 50/2,8,63/2.8,75/4, 80/5,6, 105/5.6, 135/5.6 Schneider 60/5.6, 80/5.6, 80/4S,100/5.6S,105/5.6,135/5.6, 135/5.6S, 150/5.6S, Leica 95/4 |
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martinsmith99
Joined: 31 Aug 2008 Posts: 6943 Location: S Glos, UK
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Posted: Wed May 30, 2012 7:50 pm Post subject: |
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martinsmith99 wrote:
patrickh wrote: |
I have no wish to cause a flame, but did Canon abandon its older users so completely they did not even provide for an adapter? That is cold profit seeking if I ever heard it
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Any adapter would not allow for infinity, so I guess that's why one wasn't made.
The mount change was a bold move, but all the EF stuff works on modern cameras. Try using a pre-Ai lens on a modern Nikon. _________________ Casual attendance these days |
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patrickh
Joined: 23 Aug 2007 Posts: 8551 Location: Oregon
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Posted: Wed May 30, 2012 8:31 pm Post subject: |
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patrickh wrote:
Martin
Are you suggesting the pre-AI lenses don't work on modern cameras? Not on Nikons, but they are at least 40 years old! They can often be adapted to AI, as well. All nikon lenses since AI will work on modern nikon cameras. What we are talking about here is that Canon abandoned their user base not once, but twice. I am mystified that anyone would trust them again.
patrickh _________________ DSLR: Nikon D300 Nikon D200 Nex 5N
MF Zooms: Kiron 28-85/3.5, 28-105/3.2, 75-150/3.5, Nikkor 50-135/3.5 AIS // MF Primes: Nikkor 20/4 AI, 24/2 AI, 28/2 AI, 28/2.8 AIS, 28/3.5 AI, 35/1.4 AIS, 35/2 AIS, 35/2.8 PC, 45/2.8 P, 50/1.4 AIS, 50/1.8 AIS, 50/2 AI, 55/2.8 AIS micro, 55/3.5 AI micro, 85/2 AI, 100/2,8 E, 105/1,8 AIS, 105/2,5 AIS, 135/2 AIS, 135/2.8 AIS, 200/4 AI, 200/4 AIS micro, 300/4.5 AI, 300/4.5 AI ED, Arsat 50/1.4, Kiron 28/2, Vivitar 28/2.5, Panagor 135/2.8, Tamron 28/2.5, Tamron 90/2.5 macro, Vivitar 90/2.5 macro (Tokina) Voigtlander 90/3.5 Vivitar 105/2.5 macro (Kiron) Kaleinar 100/2.8 AI Tamron 135/2.5, Vivitar 135/2.8CF, 200/3.5, Tokina 400/5,6
M42: Vivitar 28/2.5, Tamron 28/2.5, Formula5 28/2.8, Mamiya 28/2.8, Pentacon 29/2.8, Flektogon 35/2.4, Flektogon 35/2.8, Takumar 35/3.5, Curtagon 35/4, Takumar 50/1.4, Volna-6 50/2.8 macro, Mamiya 50/1.4, CZJ Pancolar 50/1,8, Oreston 50/1.8, Takumar 50/2, Industar 50/3.5, Sears 55/1.4, Helios 58/2, Jupiter 85/2, Helios 85/1.5, Takumar 105/2.8, Steinheil macro 105/4.5, Tamron 135/2.5, Jupiter 135/4, CZ 135/4, Steinheil Culminar 135/4,5, Jupiter 135/3.5, Takumar 135/3.5, Tair 135/2.8, Pentacon 135/2.8, CZ 135/2.8, Taika 135/3.5, Takumar 150/4, Jupiter 200/4, Takumar 200/4
Exakta: Topcon 100/2.8(M42), 35/2.8, 58/1.8, 135/2.8, 135/2.8 (M42), Kyoei Acall 135/3.5
C/Y: Yashica 28/2.8, 50/1.7, 135/2.8, Zeiss Planar 50/1.4, Distagon 25/2.8
Hexanon: 28/3.5, 35/2.8, 40/1.8, 50/1.7, 52/1.8, 135/3.2, 135/3.5, 35-70/3.5, 200/3.5
P6 : Mir 38 65/3.5, Biometar 80/2.8, Kaleinar 150/2.8, Sonnar 180/2.8
Minolta SR: 28/2.8, 28/3.5, 35/2.8, 45/2, 50/2, 58/1.4, 50/1.7, 135/2.8, 200/3.5
RF: Industar 53/2.8, Jupiter 8 50/2
Enlarg: Rodagon 50/5,6, 80/5,6, 105/5.6, Vario 44-52/4, 150/5.6 180/5.6 El Nikkor 50/2,8,63/2.8,75/4, 80/5,6, 105/5.6, 135/5.6 Schneider 60/5.6, 80/5.6, 80/4S,100/5.6S,105/5.6,135/5.6, 135/5.6S, 150/5.6S, Leica 95/4 |
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alexthekid
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Posted: Wed May 30, 2012 8:55 pm Post subject: |
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alexthekid wrote:
I guess that's the reason why FD lenses sell for cheap. You can't use them on a DSLR . |
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sichko
Joined: 20 Jun 2008 Posts: 2475 Location: South West UK
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Posted: Wed May 30, 2012 9:15 pm Post subject: |
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sichko wrote:
martinsmith99 wrote: |
patrickh wrote: |
I have no wish to cause a flame, but did Canon abandon its older users so completely they did not even provide for an adapter? That is cold profit seeking if I ever heard it
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Any adapter would not allow for infinity, so I guess that's why one wasn't made.
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Original Canon FD-EOS adapter ... Click here to see on Ebay
Description by Marco Cavina
It's a "glass" adapter and allows for infinity focus for a range of lenses, most of which are teles.
Apparently Canon also made a simple mechanical adapter - limiting lens use to close-ups. _________________ John |
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alexthekid
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Posted: Wed May 30, 2012 9:19 pm Post subject: |
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alexthekid wrote:
Just $500? Damn ... |
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sichko
Joined: 20 Jun 2008 Posts: 2475 Location: South West UK
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Posted: Wed May 30, 2012 9:29 pm Post subject: |
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sichko wrote:
alexthekid wrote: |
Just $500? Damn ... |
That's just the starting price - no bids yet.
Look at this one ...Click here to see on Ebay
3,200 USD BIN - 24 offers so far.
BTW The guy in the first listing is selling all his Canon stuff and moving to Nikon. _________________ John |
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sichko
Joined: 20 Jun 2008 Posts: 2475 Location: South West UK
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Posted: Wed May 30, 2012 9:38 pm Post subject: |
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sichko wrote:
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Try using a pre-Ai lens on a modern Nikon. |
I'm not sure what you mean by "modern". pre-Ai lenses will work on the D40, D40x, D60, D3000, D3100, D5000 & D5100. The first was released in 2006; the last appeared last year. These are Nikon's "entry level" or cheaper cameras. On more expensive cameras it is necessary to carry out a small modification of the aperture ring of the pre-Ai lens. It's not difficult. _________________ John |
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alexthekid
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Posted: Wed May 30, 2012 10:01 pm Post subject: |
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alexthekid wrote:
sichko wrote: |
Look at this one ...Click here to see on Ebay
3,200 USD BIN - 24 offers so far.
BTW The guy in the first listing is selling all his Canon stuff and moving to Nikon. |
That's beyond my capability of understanding and logic. But who knows, maybe they have too much money and don't know what to do with it |
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walter g
Joined: 20 Feb 2010 Posts: 2463 Location: NC, USA
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Posted: Wed May 30, 2012 10:20 pm Post subject: |
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walter g wrote:
There are also conversion kits for certain Minolta lenses, but there is a cheaper alternative. I haven't tried this adapter, because I have a 10d and it won't work on one.
Click here to see on Ebay _________________
Main cameras
Panasonic G5,Nikon J1,Pentax Q10,Sony Nex 6
Minolta MC W SI 2.5/28, MD 2.8/28, MC W SG 3.5/28, MC Celtic 3.5/28, MC W HG 2.8/35, MD Celtic 2.8/35, QE 4/35, Rokkor X 2/45, MC Rokkor X PG 1.4/50, MC Rokkor X PG 1.7/50, MD Rokkor X 1.7/50, MD 2/50, MC Rokkor PF 1.7/55, MC Rokkor PF 1.9/55, Auto Tele Rokkor PG 2.8/135, MC Tele Rokkor QD 3.5/135, TC 4/135, MC Celtic 4/200, MC Tele Rokkor PE 4.5/200
MD 28-70 f3.5-4.8, MD Macro 35-70 f3.5, Md 70-210 f4, MD Rokkor X 75-200 f4.5, MD 100-200 f5.6
Nikon Nikkor 4/20, O Auto 2/35, S Auto 1.4/50..... Miranda Auto 2.8/28, Auto 2.8/35, Auto 1.4/50, Auto EC 1.4/50, Auto 1.8/50, Auto EC 1.8/50,Auto 1.9/50, Auto 3.5/135
Various Soligor,Sun,Fujita,Komura,Spitatone, etc. Lenses
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ManualFocus-G
Joined: 29 Dec 2008 Posts: 6624 Location: United Kingdom
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Posted: Wed May 30, 2012 11:19 pm Post subject: |
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ManualFocus-G wrote:
sichko wrote: |
martinsmith99 wrote: |
Try using a pre-Ai lens on a modern Nikon. |
I'm not sure what you mean by "modern". pre-Ai lenses will work on the D40, D40x, D60, D3000, D3100, D5000 & D5100. The first was released in 2006; the last appeared last year. These are Nikon's "entry level" or cheaper cameras. |
No metering on these bodies though, urrgh! And yes, pre-Ai lenses can be hacked around to work on newer higher level models, if you're into that sort of thing, but the proper kits are hard to find and expensive as a result. Our friend Stan can make old FD lenses work on Canon DSLRs if we're going to start taking things apart too
That said, the compatibility of old Nikkors on modern Nikons is still better than old Canons on modern Canons But Canon users DO get access to M42, Nikon, Contax, Olympus, Leica, PK and all sorts of other goodies which is probably a good enough substitute _________________ Graham - Moderator
Shooter of choice: Fujifilm X-T20 with M42, PB and C/Y lenses
See my Flickr photos at http://www.flickr.com/photos/manualfocus-g |
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patrickh
Joined: 23 Aug 2007 Posts: 8551 Location: Oregon
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Posted: Thu May 31, 2012 12:15 am Post subject: |
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patrickh wrote:
Graham, that is exactly why I bought a 40D canon. Unfortunately I dropped it and it broke, quite comprehensively. Now I am making do with a Nex 5N.
patrickh
BTW there is absolutely no question that canon makes some phenomenal lenses and cameras, it's their marketing I mistrust. _________________ DSLR: Nikon D300 Nikon D200 Nex 5N
MF Zooms: Kiron 28-85/3.5, 28-105/3.2, 75-150/3.5, Nikkor 50-135/3.5 AIS // MF Primes: Nikkor 20/4 AI, 24/2 AI, 28/2 AI, 28/2.8 AIS, 28/3.5 AI, 35/1.4 AIS, 35/2 AIS, 35/2.8 PC, 45/2.8 P, 50/1.4 AIS, 50/1.8 AIS, 50/2 AI, 55/2.8 AIS micro, 55/3.5 AI micro, 85/2 AI, 100/2,8 E, 105/1,8 AIS, 105/2,5 AIS, 135/2 AIS, 135/2.8 AIS, 200/4 AI, 200/4 AIS micro, 300/4.5 AI, 300/4.5 AI ED, Arsat 50/1.4, Kiron 28/2, Vivitar 28/2.5, Panagor 135/2.8, Tamron 28/2.5, Tamron 90/2.5 macro, Vivitar 90/2.5 macro (Tokina) Voigtlander 90/3.5 Vivitar 105/2.5 macro (Kiron) Kaleinar 100/2.8 AI Tamron 135/2.5, Vivitar 135/2.8CF, 200/3.5, Tokina 400/5,6
M42: Vivitar 28/2.5, Tamron 28/2.5, Formula5 28/2.8, Mamiya 28/2.8, Pentacon 29/2.8, Flektogon 35/2.4, Flektogon 35/2.8, Takumar 35/3.5, Curtagon 35/4, Takumar 50/1.4, Volna-6 50/2.8 macro, Mamiya 50/1.4, CZJ Pancolar 50/1,8, Oreston 50/1.8, Takumar 50/2, Industar 50/3.5, Sears 55/1.4, Helios 58/2, Jupiter 85/2, Helios 85/1.5, Takumar 105/2.8, Steinheil macro 105/4.5, Tamron 135/2.5, Jupiter 135/4, CZ 135/4, Steinheil Culminar 135/4,5, Jupiter 135/3.5, Takumar 135/3.5, Tair 135/2.8, Pentacon 135/2.8, CZ 135/2.8, Taika 135/3.5, Takumar 150/4, Jupiter 200/4, Takumar 200/4
Exakta: Topcon 100/2.8(M42), 35/2.8, 58/1.8, 135/2.8, 135/2.8 (M42), Kyoei Acall 135/3.5
C/Y: Yashica 28/2.8, 50/1.7, 135/2.8, Zeiss Planar 50/1.4, Distagon 25/2.8
Hexanon: 28/3.5, 35/2.8, 40/1.8, 50/1.7, 52/1.8, 135/3.2, 135/3.5, 35-70/3.5, 200/3.5
P6 : Mir 38 65/3.5, Biometar 80/2.8, Kaleinar 150/2.8, Sonnar 180/2.8
Minolta SR: 28/2.8, 28/3.5, 35/2.8, 45/2, 50/2, 58/1.4, 50/1.7, 135/2.8, 200/3.5
RF: Industar 53/2.8, Jupiter 8 50/2
Enlarg: Rodagon 50/5,6, 80/5,6, 105/5.6, Vario 44-52/4, 150/5.6 180/5.6 El Nikkor 50/2,8,63/2.8,75/4, 80/5,6, 105/5.6, 135/5.6 Schneider 60/5.6, 80/5.6, 80/4S,100/5.6S,105/5.6,135/5.6, 135/5.6S, 150/5.6S, Leica 95/4 |
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sichko
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Posted: Fri Jun 01, 2012 12:27 pm Post subject: |
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sichko wrote:
ManualFocus-G wrote: |
sichko wrote: |
martinsmith99 wrote: |
Try using a pre-Ai lens on a modern Nikon. |
I'm not sure what you mean by "modern". pre-Ai lenses will work on the D40, D40x, D60, D3000, D3100, D5000 & D5100. The first was released in 2006; the last appeared last year. These are Nikon's "entry level" or cheaper cameras. |
No metering on these bodies though, urrgh! |
That's why the're cheap (a relative term !) - they don't do everything. Not everyone can afford an expensive body, and some of those who can choose to spend their money on other other things. And these entry-level bodies are small and light - for some people this is a distinct advantage.
As to the lack of metering - some people learn to live with it. Chimping is not too difficult. If you look on Flickr, and indeed on this site, you will find plenty of examples of fine pictures taken with a cheap Nikon body and non-metering lenses.
Of course if you use a Nikon lens on a Nikon body you retain automatic aperture, which is something you lose if you use the lens on some other platforms.
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And yes, pre-Ai lenses can be hacked around to work on newer higher level models, if you're into that sort of thing, but the proper kits are hard to find and expensive as a result. Our friend Stan can make old FD lenses work on Canon DSLRs if we're going to start taking things apart too |
I don't think that you are being very kind to Stan. Surely the skills and equipment required to re-engineer an FD mount are far greater than those needed to effect a DIY Ai conversion. _________________ John |
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alexthekid
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walter g
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walter g wrote:
The 75-200 4.5 was one of the lenses that was a joint project between Minolta and leica. _________________
Main cameras
Panasonic G5,Nikon J1,Pentax Q10,Sony Nex 6
Minolta MC W SI 2.5/28, MD 2.8/28, MC W SG 3.5/28, MC Celtic 3.5/28, MC W HG 2.8/35, MD Celtic 2.8/35, QE 4/35, Rokkor X 2/45, MC Rokkor X PG 1.4/50, MC Rokkor X PG 1.7/50, MD Rokkor X 1.7/50, MD 2/50, MC Rokkor PF 1.7/55, MC Rokkor PF 1.9/55, Auto Tele Rokkor PG 2.8/135, MC Tele Rokkor QD 3.5/135, TC 4/135, MC Celtic 4/200, MC Tele Rokkor PE 4.5/200
MD 28-70 f3.5-4.8, MD Macro 35-70 f3.5, Md 70-210 f4, MD Rokkor X 75-200 f4.5, MD 100-200 f5.6
Nikon Nikkor 4/20, O Auto 2/35, S Auto 1.4/50..... Miranda Auto 2.8/28, Auto 2.8/35, Auto 1.4/50, Auto EC 1.4/50, Auto 1.8/50, Auto EC 1.8/50,Auto 1.9/50, Auto 3.5/135
Various Soligor,Sun,Fujita,Komura,Spitatone, etc. Lenses
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alexthekid
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Posted: Fri Jun 01, 2012 9:33 pm Post subject: |
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alexthekid wrote:
If the price doesn't go too high, i think i will go for it. |
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dnas
Joined: 14 Nov 2008 Posts: 488 Location: Japan
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Posted: Sat Jun 02, 2012 12:50 am Post subject: |
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dnas wrote:
Here is a comparison of the Canon FD 50mm F1.4 SSC lens, with and without a cheap ebay FD->EOS glass adapter.
Test set up: The two test patterns are stuck to a window, one in the centre, one in the corner. I usually use the brightness of the outside light to stress the contrast performance of lenses. In this case, I chose to have the sun falling onto the back of the sheets, which makes it the hardest possible test conditions for the lens.
Lens with no glass: Panasonic GH1
Lens with glass adapter: Canon 60D
I've tested the Canon FD 50mm F1.4 SSC before (not in the full sun test setup), and it's a very good lens. It's contrasty, sharp and there is almost no CA.
Wide open (F1.4)
Canon FD 50mm F1.4 SSC @ F1.4, centre, NO GLASS adapter:
Canon FD 50mm F1.4 SSC @ F1.4, corner, NO GLASS adapter:
Canon FD 50mm F1.4 SSC @ F1.4, centre, WITH glass adapter:
Canon FD 50mm F1.4 SSC @ F1.4, corner, WITH glass adapter:
At F4:
Canon FD 50mm F1.4 SSC @ F4, centre, NO GLASS adapter:
Canon FD 50mm F1.4 SSC @ F4, corner, NO GLASS adapter:
Canon FD 50mm F1.4 SSC @ F4, centre, WITH glass adapter:
Canon FD 50mm F1.4 SSC @ F4, corner, WITH glass adapter:
Notes:
1. The glass adapter looks like it doesn't have any multi coatings on it. This probably explains the very bad contrast performance wide open.
2. The glass adapter doesn't seem to have much effect on the sharpness in the centre, the image sharpness being surprisingly good. Even the contrast at F4 is reasonable.
3. The performance of the glass adapter in the corner is simply awful.
Conclusion:
The corner performance of these cheap FD-EOS adaptors is very bad, as is the contrast wide open. Stopped down, the centre performance is acceptable for both contrast and sharpness.
Uses:
Perhaps used as portrait lens, stopped down a little. |
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walter g
Joined: 20 Feb 2010 Posts: 2463 Location: NC, USA
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Posted: Sat Jun 02, 2012 1:26 am Post subject: |
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walter g wrote:
Dnas, when I tested my multi coated MD/EOS adapter with glass I got decent results under a couple meters. The problem comes in at any father distance. I considered the results totally unusable even for web posting. That's the main reason I bought my Panny G1.
Have you tested your adapter at any longer distances? _________________
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dnas
Joined: 14 Nov 2008 Posts: 488 Location: Japan
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Posted: Sat Jun 02, 2012 1:55 am Post subject: |
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dnas wrote:
walter g wrote: |
Dnas, when I tested my multi coated MD/EOS adapter with glass I got decent results under a couple meters. The problem comes in at any father distance. I considered the results totally unusable even for web posting. That's the main reason I bought my Panny G1.
Have you tested your adapter at any longer distances? |
That was not close, it was around 5m.
The problem with the contrast wide open means the shots are just about unusable, even in the centre where the sharpness is good.
I will post up some more shots later(at 20-30m), but the shots at F4 are quite reasonable in the centre. |
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ilguercio
Joined: 08 Mar 2012 Posts: 414 Location: Southern Italy-Calabria!
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Posted: Sat Jun 02, 2012 10:15 am Post subject: |
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ilguercio wrote:
But that isn't a 50 1.4 anymore, "thanks" to the adapter.
I don't see the point of using them, either have the lens converted or put it on a mirrorless. |
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