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pdccameras
Joined: 23 Aug 2009 Posts: 825 Location: Putnam, CT
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Posted: Tue Aug 02, 2011 7:08 pm Post subject: looking for camera recommendations |
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pdccameras wrote:
HI all,
Sorry if this is too general a post.
I am interested in making my first foray into the digital rangefinder / viewfinder arena, and I am looking for camera recommendations. Here are my selection criteria:
1) I currently use Canon digital SLRs (Digital Rebel IR modified, 40D, and 5D Mark II), but I have had experience with Nikon digital and many film cameras from 35mm to 4X5.
2) Portability and small size is important.
3) I would like a digital platform for my Leica M glass, but don't want to shell out the dough for a Leica digital (I have an M3 film camera now).
4) IQ is of course, important, as is low light performance and low noise.
5) Easy MF and manual exposure controls are important.
6) Video capability is not important.
7) The availability of a variety of lens adapters for M42, Nikon, Exakta, Leica R, Contax/Yashica etc., in addition to Lieca M is important to me.
Built-in image stabilization would be nice.
9) Price tag of under $500 US$, if possible. Older models are fine.
Any and all suggestions are welcome.
Thanks! _________________ Canon 5D Mii, Canon 40D, Canon 350D IR, Sony A7 Mii, Sony Alpha-6000, a ton of lenses: AF & MF and too many cameras to count, all formats: 110 - 4x5. |
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std
Joined: 09 Feb 2010 Posts: 1826 Location: Bulgaria
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Posted: Tue Aug 02, 2011 7:23 pm Post subject: |
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std wrote:
You need a mirrorless camera: Sony nex or Oly Pen
I like Olympus more but it's your decision. _________________ Stefan
My lens list:
SLR MD: Rokkor 1,7/50 Exakta: Kilfitt-Makro-Kilar E 3.5/4cm; CZJ 2/50 Pancolar;M42: CZJ 2.8/50 Tessar; Mir-1B 2.8/37; Jupiter-9 2/85 T-mount: Tamron 5.9/200; Tamron 6.9/300; Tamron 7.5/400 C-mount: Cosmicar 1.8/50 Y/S: Sun 3.5/38-90, Sun 4/70-210 RF Contax RF: Jupiter-8 2/50; Contax G:CZ 2,8/21 Biogon T; CZ 2,8/28 Biogon T; CZ 2/35 Planar T; CZ 2/45 Planar T; CZ 2,8/90 Sonnar T |
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pdccameras
Joined: 23 Aug 2009 Posts: 825 Location: Putnam, CT
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Posted: Tue Aug 02, 2011 7:34 pm Post subject: |
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pdccameras wrote:
std wrote: |
You need a mirrorless camera: Sony nex or Oly Pen
I like Olympus more but it's your decision. |
Other attributes aside, a nice bit on the Oly is the hot shoe, which could hold a nice optical viewfinder!
P. _________________ Canon 5D Mii, Canon 40D, Canon 350D IR, Sony A7 Mii, Sony Alpha-6000, a ton of lenses: AF & MF and too many cameras to count, all formats: 110 - 4x5. |
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std
Joined: 09 Feb 2010 Posts: 1826 Location: Bulgaria
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Posted: Tue Aug 02, 2011 7:55 pm Post subject: |
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std wrote:
True.. and it also works with flashes and accessory electronic viewfinder
In the current mirrorless world the Nex has the best sensor and Pen the best camera features
The Samsung doesn't work with Leica lenses. _________________ Stefan
My lens list:
SLR MD: Rokkor 1,7/50 Exakta: Kilfitt-Makro-Kilar E 3.5/4cm; CZJ 2/50 Pancolar;M42: CZJ 2.8/50 Tessar; Mir-1B 2.8/37; Jupiter-9 2/85 T-mount: Tamron 5.9/200; Tamron 6.9/300; Tamron 7.5/400 C-mount: Cosmicar 1.8/50 Y/S: Sun 3.5/38-90, Sun 4/70-210 RF Contax RF: Jupiter-8 2/50; Contax G:CZ 2,8/21 Biogon T; CZ 2,8/28 Biogon T; CZ 2/35 Planar T; CZ 2/45 Planar T; CZ 2,8/90 Sonnar T |
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pdccameras
Joined: 23 Aug 2009 Posts: 825 Location: Putnam, CT
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Posted: Tue Aug 02, 2011 9:07 pm Post subject: |
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pdccameras wrote:
std wrote: |
True.. and it also works with flashes and accessory electronic viewfinder
In the current mirrorless world the Nex has the best sensor and Pen the best camera features
The Samsung doesn't work with Leica lenses. |
Great info! Thanks so much.
Paul _________________ Canon 5D Mii, Canon 40D, Canon 350D IR, Sony A7 Mii, Sony Alpha-6000, a ton of lenses: AF & MF and too many cameras to count, all formats: 110 - 4x5. |
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rbelyell
Joined: 13 Oct 2009 Posts: 4269 Location: somewhere in the mountains of central NY
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Posted: Tue Aug 02, 2011 9:15 pm Post subject: |
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rbelyell wrote:
hi pdc
as an olly ep2 owner, i can objectively say that i like the images from the samsung mirrorless cams better than the olly, and that i like the olly images better than the sony. i did not know, and it might be good to confirm, that you cannot use m mount lenses on samsung--if true that would be a pity. back to olky, the optional evf is first rate and is excellent in low light-like a military scope! unfortunayely the camera does not perform as well as the evf in low light-800 is the highest i would go, and even that often disappoints. its great otherwise
as an m lens vehicle you might also want to consider the epson rd1, which i undrstand operates like a 'true' rangefinder. _________________ Epson RD1 + Elmarit 21/2.8; Summarit 50/1.5; Summarit 75/2.5; Elmar-c 90/4; Sankyo Komura 135/2.8, Hektor 135/4.5; Braun Paxina 29 6x6; Photax Boyer Paris; Holga 120 Pano
GREAT STUFF FOR SALE:
Contax T
Hasselblad XPan + 45/4, 90/4
Kodak Retina Reflex IV + full set of Schneider Krueznach lenses
Mercury 2 half frame 35mm
Kodak Pro slr/n
Fuji GM670+100/3.5+65/8!
Praktisix 6x6 medium format + ZeissBiometar 120/2.8
Bessa T 101 Anniversary Edition in Navy Blue
Mamiya Six Folder with Zuiko 75/3.5
Adaptall: Tamron SP 28-85 macro
Cameras: Canon IX
PM for more complete descriptions/pix. All in great shape!
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'buy me a drink, sing me a song,
take me as i come 'cause i can't stay long' |
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pdccameras
Joined: 23 Aug 2009 Posts: 825 Location: Putnam, CT
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Posted: Tue Aug 02, 2011 10:24 pm Post subject: |
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pdccameras wrote:
rbelyell wrote: |
hi pdc
as an olly ep2 owner, i can objectively say that i like the images from the samsung mirrorless cams better than the olly, and that i like the olly images better than the sony. i did not know, and it might be good to confirm, that you cannot use m mount lenses on samsung--if true that would be a pity. back to olky, the optional evf is first rate and is excellent in low light-like a military scope! unfortunayely the camera does not perform as well as the evf in low light-800 is the highest i would go, and even that often disappoints. its great otherwise
as an m lens vehicle you might also want to consider the epson rd1, which i undrstand operates like a 'true' rangefinder. |
I'll check that one out - thanks for the info! _________________ Canon 5D Mii, Canon 40D, Canon 350D IR, Sony A7 Mii, Sony Alpha-6000, a ton of lenses: AF & MF and too many cameras to count, all formats: 110 - 4x5. |
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Orio
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Posted: Tue Aug 02, 2011 11:21 pm Post subject: |
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Orio wrote:
How is that the Samsung does not work with Leica lenses? _________________ Orio, Administrator
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rbelyell
Joined: 13 Oct 2009 Posts: 4269 Location: somewhere in the mountains of central NY
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Posted: Tue Aug 02, 2011 11:44 pm Post subject: |
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rbelyell wrote:
on this point, i have come across an m39>samsung adapter, just as i have an m39>m4/3 adapter. if this works the same way as with the olly, i then use a m mount>m39 adapter, which allows me to use m lenses on m4/3. _________________ Epson RD1 + Elmarit 21/2.8; Summarit 50/1.5; Summarit 75/2.5; Elmar-c 90/4; Sankyo Komura 135/2.8, Hektor 135/4.5; Braun Paxina 29 6x6; Photax Boyer Paris; Holga 120 Pano
GREAT STUFF FOR SALE:
Contax T
Hasselblad XPan + 45/4, 90/4
Kodak Retina Reflex IV + full set of Schneider Krueznach lenses
Mercury 2 half frame 35mm
Kodak Pro slr/n
Fuji GM670+100/3.5+65/8!
Praktisix 6x6 medium format + ZeissBiometar 120/2.8
Bessa T 101 Anniversary Edition in Navy Blue
Mamiya Six Folder with Zuiko 75/3.5
Adaptall: Tamron SP 28-85 macro
Cameras: Canon IX
PM for more complete descriptions/pix. All in great shape!
_________________________
'buy me a drink, sing me a song,
take me as i come 'cause i can't stay long' |
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std
Joined: 09 Feb 2010 Posts: 1826 Location: Bulgaria
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Posted: Wed Aug 03, 2011 7:04 am Post subject: |
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std wrote:
The m bayonet will not fit inside samsung - it's just too big for it.
The guy to which i sold my nex had the samsung. He got the nex mainly for his leica lenses, and even after weeks he was still thinking the samsung is the better camera. _________________ Stefan
My lens list:
SLR MD: Rokkor 1,7/50 Exakta: Kilfitt-Makro-Kilar E 3.5/4cm; CZJ 2/50 Pancolar;M42: CZJ 2.8/50 Tessar; Mir-1B 2.8/37; Jupiter-9 2/85 T-mount: Tamron 5.9/200; Tamron 6.9/300; Tamron 7.5/400 C-mount: Cosmicar 1.8/50 Y/S: Sun 3.5/38-90, Sun 4/70-210 RF Contax RF: Jupiter-8 2/50; Contax G:CZ 2,8/21 Biogon T; CZ 2,8/28 Biogon T; CZ 2/35 Planar T; CZ 2/45 Planar T; CZ 2,8/90 Sonnar T |
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rbelyell
Joined: 13 Oct 2009 Posts: 4269 Location: somewhere in the mountains of central NY
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Posted: Wed Aug 03, 2011 1:43 pm Post subject: |
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rbelyell wrote:
stefan, i'm not sure i totally understand that the 'bayonet' will not fit into the samsung. if you mount the bayonet into an m mount>m39 adapter, then mount that onto an m39>samsung adapter, why wouldnt that work? at that point the bayonet being too big for the samsung is not relevant because it is already mounted, unless there is some part of an m lens that sticks out into the cam, like the m39 jupiter 35/2.8... _________________ Epson RD1 + Elmarit 21/2.8; Summarit 50/1.5; Summarit 75/2.5; Elmar-c 90/4; Sankyo Komura 135/2.8, Hektor 135/4.5; Braun Paxina 29 6x6; Photax Boyer Paris; Holga 120 Pano
GREAT STUFF FOR SALE:
Contax T
Hasselblad XPan + 45/4, 90/4
Kodak Retina Reflex IV + full set of Schneider Krueznach lenses
Mercury 2 half frame 35mm
Kodak Pro slr/n
Fuji GM670+100/3.5+65/8!
Praktisix 6x6 medium format + ZeissBiometar 120/2.8
Bessa T 101 Anniversary Edition in Navy Blue
Mamiya Six Folder with Zuiko 75/3.5
Adaptall: Tamron SP 28-85 macro
Cameras: Canon IX
PM for more complete descriptions/pix. All in great shape!
_________________________
'buy me a drink, sing me a song,
take me as i come 'cause i can't stay long' |
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Attila
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Posted: Wed Aug 03, 2011 1:47 pm Post subject: |
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Attila wrote:
For Leica M lenses Sony is the best option, especially if those lenses are normal and in wide range. _________________ -------------------------------
Items on sale on Ebay
Sony NEX-7 Carl Zeiss Planar 85mm f1.4, Minolta MD 35mm f1.8, Konica 135mm f2.5, Minolta MD 50mm f1.2, Minolta MD 250mm f5.6, Carl Zeiss Sonnar 180mm f2.8
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