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jjphoto
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Posted: Tue Mar 29, 2011 8:21 am Post subject: Which 24mm lens (sub $1000 budget)? |
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jjphoto wrote:
Thing is that I really like the sharpness you get with the Contax 28/2.8 and Leica R 28/2.8 E55 and I'm looking for a lens like that in 24mm, maybe wider, but preferably in the sub $1000 price range. Needs to work on Canon FF body. Any ideas?
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Orio
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Posted: Tue Mar 29, 2011 8:27 am Post subject: |
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Orio wrote:
Distagon 2.8/25, in my opinion the best choice (make sure it's MM version)
or Yashica ML 2.8/24, if you can find one (not easy to find lens). _________________ Orio, Administrator
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ManualFocus-G
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Posted: Tue Mar 29, 2011 9:07 am Post subject: |
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ManualFocus-G wrote:
Nikkor 24/2.8 ais is very Sharp and well within budget. _________________ Graham - Moderator
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jjphoto
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Posted: Tue Mar 29, 2011 10:55 am Post subject: |
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jjphoto wrote:
I have the Yashica ML 24 (my second one, they performed the same) and Leica R 24 (Liveview ONLY on 5d2) and both are only OK IMHO. The Leica R is my best 24 compared to the Yashica ML 24, and my Canon 17-40 and 24-70 zooms.
I also had a Contax 25/2.8 for a little while and a Nikkor 24/2.8 Ais more than 15 years ago. I didn't think the Contax was very impressive and didn't keep it although I had the Nikkor for many years, and it is a nice lens.
This is my dilema. Those are all OK lenses but surely there's something better, and still costs less than $1K. Maybe there isn't.
I've been considering getting the olympus 24/2.8 or maybe 24/2 but I'm not convinced it's worth spending the extra money on the f2 lens. I have the Olympus 28/2.8 and it's a very good lens, but it's not quite in the same bracket as the Contax and Leica R 28's which are the level of performance I would like to find.
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LucisPictor
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Posted: Tue Mar 29, 2011 11:06 am Post subject: |
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LucisPictor wrote:
ManualFocus-G wrote: |
Nikkor 24/2.8 ais is very Sharp and well within budget. |
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Attila
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Posted: Tue Mar 29, 2011 11:13 am Post subject: |
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Attila wrote:
Nikon get my vote too, Yashica almost good as Nikon , but lot more rare. If you have money more Distagon 25mm is also a great deal. I doubt any 24mm lens is significantly better than Nikon no matter how expensive it is.
Olympus OM 24m f2 and f2.8 also a great lens. _________________ -------------------------------
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ManualFocus-G
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Posted: Tue Mar 29, 2011 11:46 am Post subject: |
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ManualFocus-G wrote:
Hmm, what is it you really want from the lens, that you can't get from existing models you've owned? I think the only reason I would swap my Nikon out would be for something with 3D characteristics like the Distagon. But even then I'm not sure how much a difference it would make with a lens that wide on FF, where most shots are likely (for me) to be at or near to infinity. Of course you could be after an APO lens or something. _________________ Graham - Moderator
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jjphoto
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Posted: Tue Mar 29, 2011 12:09 pm Post subject: |
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jjphoto wrote:
ManualFocus-G wrote: |
Hmm, what is it you really want from the lens, that you can't get from existing models you've owned? I think the only reason I would swap my Nikon out would be for something with 3D characteristics like the Distagon. But even then I'm not sure how much a difference it would make with a lens that wide on FF, where most shots are likely (for me) to be at or near to infinity. Of course you could be after an APO lens or something. |
Just sharpness across the frame. I don't really think you can worry about bokeh with very wide angle lenses like 24's. Also, colour is easy to tweek in RAW. I do like the Leica 24, it has very nice colour, quite sharp, but it's not a very practical alternative as it can only be used with Liveview.
Maybe I need to re-visit the Nikkor.
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Orio
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Posted: Tue Mar 29, 2011 12:13 pm Post subject: |
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Orio wrote:
Something in support of the Distagon 25:
no lens hood used for the above photo.
See original comments:
http://forum.mflenses.com/distagon-25-torrent-stirone-t22291,highlight,%2Bdistagon+%2B2+%2B8+%2B25.html
Flare control for super wide lenses is very important. That is why I would choose Distagon 25 over the other contenders.
I have had and used the Nikkor. It is a very good lens, but the coating is not as good as the Distagon's - at least not in the version that I used.
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Posted: Tue Mar 29, 2011 12:16 pm Post subject: |
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rbelyell wrote:
ive had a few 24s, and i really like the yashica ml, and i honestly see quite a few on ebay. in fact im sure there are at least 4 going right now. having said that, wow! orio, that distagon shot looked awfully good! _________________ Epson RD1 + Elmarit 21/2.8; Summarit 50/1.5; Summarit 75/2.5; Elmar-c 90/4; Sankyo Komura 135/2.8, Hektor 135/4.5; Braun Paxina 29 6x6; Photax Boyer Paris; Holga 120 Pano
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Cistron
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Posted: Tue Mar 29, 2011 2:25 pm Post subject: Re: Which 24mm lens (sub $1000 budget)? |
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Cistron wrote:
jjphoto wrote: |
Thing is that I really like the sharpness you get with the Contax 28/2.8 and Leica R 28/2.8 E55 and I'm looking for a lens like that in 24mm, maybe wider, but preferably in the sub $1000 price range. Needs to work on Canon FF body. Any ideas?
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Used Canon 24mm f1.4L? Not manual, but probably one of the best primes I've ever used.
edit: oh wait, dollars... my bad. |
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Bruce
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Posted: Tue Mar 29, 2011 3:26 pm Post subject: |
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Bruce wrote:
My vote goes to the 25 Distagon
I also have the Nikkor 24/2.8 and the Olympus 24/2.8
but my Distagon is very sharp! _________________ Digital: Canon 40d & 5DmkII, Film: Hasselblad 203fe/Zeiss 80/2.8 cfe
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berraneck
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Posted: Tue Mar 29, 2011 3:55 pm Post subject: Re: Which 24mm lens (sub $1000 budget)? |
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berraneck wrote:
Cistron wrote: |
Used Canon 24mm f1.4L? Not manual, but probably one of the best primes I've ever used.
edit: oh wait, dollars... my bad. |
I think that Canon FD 24/1.4L is within budget and also is very nice lens _________________ equipment doesn´t count, good photographs do |
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uhoh7
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Posted: Tue Mar 29, 2011 4:35 pm Post subject: Re: Which 24mm lens (sub $1000 budget)? |
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uhoh7 wrote:
berraneck wrote: |
Cistron wrote: |
Used Canon 24mm f1.4L? Not manual, but probably one of the best primes I've ever used.
edit: oh wait, dollars... my bad. |
I think that Canon FD 24/1.4L is within budget and also is very nice lens |
Not sure about using FD mounts with his FF body, but while 24/1.4 is well known nFD 24/2 is considered by FD aholics to be superior, and perhaps the best lens in the enitre FD line. It's very small, light, and modern coatings. Much cheaper than the 1.4, but still around 300 and not easy to find.
as stated above the nikon 24/2.8 is good and not expensive. The nikon 24/2 not as good. _________________ Making MFlenses safe for the letter *L* |
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Cistron
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Posted: Tue Mar 29, 2011 4:57 pm Post subject: Re: Which 24mm lens (sub $1000 budget)? |
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Cistron wrote:
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Hmmm, nature ... |
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NikonD
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Posted: Tue Mar 29, 2011 5:08 pm Post subject: |
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NikonD wrote:
My vote goes for Nikkor 24/2.8 AI-S |
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jjphoto
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Posted: Tue Mar 29, 2011 9:10 pm Post subject: Re: Which 24mm lens (sub $1000 budget)? |
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jjphoto wrote:
berraneck wrote: |
Cistron wrote: |
Used Canon 24mm f1.4L? Not manual, but probably one of the best primes I've ever used.
edit: oh wait, dollars... my bad. |
I think that Canon FD 24/1.4L is within budget and also is very nice lens |
That might be a very nice lens. However converting an FD to EF is a bit of a job so I don't really want to go there.
I did have an FD SSC ASpherical 24/1.4 a long time a go. It was fairly soft wide open.
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walter g
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Posted: Tue Mar 29, 2011 9:29 pm Post subject: |
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walter g wrote:
I'd also say the Nikkor 24/2.8 AI-S I've seen very nice results from this lens.
That's my second choice. First choice would be the Minolta MD W Rokkor X 24 f2.8. Less then $200 bucks, but it won't fit your camera. I don't know if anyone is converting these yet. _________________
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Posted: Tue Mar 29, 2011 10:16 pm Post subject: |
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iangreenhalgh1 wrote:
Years ago I had a 24mm for my Minolta 7000 that was badged Carl Zeiss but made in Japan, I think by Sigma.
It was a great lens, almost no distortion and very contrasty for a wide angle, all metal and glass and built like a tank, no plastic in it at all.
Anyways, if you see one of those, (they have a red ring round the very front end) then they are well worth buying, they were available in all kinds of mounts and the mount ring was held on by four screws so would be really easy to adapt. _________________ I don't care who designed it, who made it or what country it comes from - I just enjoy using it! |
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cooltouch
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Posted: Tue Mar 29, 2011 11:12 pm Post subject: |
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cooltouch wrote:
I agree that the Nikkor 24mm f/2.8 AI-S is a very nice lens. I have one and I like mine a lot. It does a great job.
Nikon F2, 24mm f/2.8 AI-s, Ektar 100
But about a year and a half ago, I bought a Tamron Adaptall-2 24mm f/2.5 off eBay, mostly so I could use it with my Canon FD and Pentax K cameras. But I was curious how well it held up against my "mighty" Nikkor 24mm, so I performed a series of tests, and I posted the results here at the forum. Scroll about halfway down in the thread to get to the beginning of the tests.
http://forum.mflenses.com/tamron-24mm-f-2-5-t22049,highlight,%2Btamron+%2B24mm.html
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Attila
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Posted: Tue Mar 29, 2011 11:43 pm Post subject: |
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Attila wrote:
My Tamron was quite crappy. _________________ -------------------------------
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james
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Posted: Wed Mar 30, 2011 3:06 am Post subject: |
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james wrote:
Attila wrote: |
My Tamron was quite crappy. |
Looks like the answer lies above with the Nikkor
The Leica R 24 is a Minolta design and its high price on the used market is hard to understand. Not the equal of the Nikkor 24/2.8 AIS and at almost twice the price. If I'm not mistaken, the Nikkor 24/2.8 AF-D shares the same optical formula. Would stay away from the Nikkor 24/2 AIS. Overpriced and a bit of a disappointment; I owned one for many years. The speed is the only reason it still gets over US$400 and the images at f/2 are quite weak.
The Z*25/2.8 has a true focal length of 25.7 mm and I am curious whether the same applies to the Contax version. Not really 24mm... |
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iangreenhalgh1
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Posted: Wed Mar 30, 2011 3:33 am Post subject: |
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iangreenhalgh1 wrote:
I'd be keen to hear people's suggestions for a good 24mm that won't break the bank. 24s seem to not be so common secondhand, 28s are much more common, maybe people hold onto their 24s?
I still miss that Japanese Zeiss one I had, might not have been upto Flektogon standards but it took a lovely pic.
I'm using a EOS 10D with the smaller sensor, will a 24 work alright on this cam or will I see some vignetting? _________________ I don't care who designed it, who made it or what country it comes from - I just enjoy using it! |
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aoleg
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Posted: Wed Mar 30, 2011 6:34 am Post subject: |
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aoleg wrote:
I tried a lot of 24mm lenses. My favorite is AI-S Nikkor 24/2.8, followed closely by Olympus OM Zuiko 24/2.8 (must say just "Zuiko" and not "MC Zuiko" or "H.Zuiko" on the front ring). Yashica ML 24/2.8 is also nice, but, IMO, overrated. Too bad the Russians didn't make a 24mm lens - that could be a winner. _________________ List of lenses |
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f6cvalkyrie wrote:
ManualFocus-G wrote: |
Nikkor 24/2.8 ais is very Sharp and well within budget. |
Another vote for this Nikkor 24/2.8 ! _________________ E-M1 E-M5 G1 mod to Full Spectrum
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