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Attila
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Attila wrote:
http://www.mflenses.com/gallery/v/german/meyer/primotar_135/
Like Trioplan 100
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Orio
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| Posted: Wed Nov 21, 2007 3:21 pm Post subject: |
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Orio wrote:
Primotars are Tessar clones, 4 glasses in 3 groups.
They should have the same strenghts and weaknesses of Tessar lenses.
It should be a good lens.
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bob955i
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bob955i wrote:
@ Steve:
Looks like it might be Exakta mount - if it is and you don't want it I'll be happy to take it as I have Exaktas.  |
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peterqd
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peterqd wrote:
Does this lens have the interchangeable M42/Exa mount like the Orestegors?
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Attila
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| Posted: Wed Nov 21, 2007 9:42 pm Post subject: |
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Attila wrote:
NO.
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bob955i
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| Posted: Wed Nov 21, 2007 10:13 pm Post subject: |
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bob955i wrote:
Cheers Steve - PM me when you get the lens and can verify the mount.
@ Peter: The rear part of the Primotar 135 is effectively an extension tube and the mount is part of that.
It's very similar in overall construction to the Trioplan. |
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montecarlo
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montecarlo wrote:
| Orio wrote: |
Primotars are Tessar clones, 4 glasses in 3 groups.
They should have the same strenghts and weaknesses of Tessar lenses.
It should be a good lens.
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So, these two would be the cheaper "tessar"s (the "normal" 50mm tessar) from Meyer:
http://www.praktica-users.com/lens/mlenses/mpri3.5_50.html
http://www.praktica-users.com/lens/mlenses/mpri2.8_50.html
then.
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Orio
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| Posted: Thu Nov 22, 2007 10:44 am Post subject: |
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Orio wrote:
As far as I know, yes, they should.
Ah the UFO lens... gotta love it!  I want one 
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montecarlo
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montecarlo wrote:
Yes it has a non usual form, but it is similar (as form not colour) with the cheaper Meyer http://www.praktica-users.com/lens/mlenses/mdom2.8_50.html and the russian http://zenit.istra.ru/archive/lenses/zenitar-2-50.html ( http://www.xs4all.nl/~tomtiger/russcam/212K/zenit212Ka.jpg ) but these two has another optical formula.
These Primotars had no successors in the later Pentacon line, as I know (not even this one http://www.praktica-users.com/lens/blenses/pp2.4_50.html , which was produced in Romania ).
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bob955i
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bob955i wrote:
I have the latter Primotar 2.8/50 in Exakta mount. |
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Orio
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| Posted: Thu Nov 22, 2007 5:40 pm Post subject: |
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Orio wrote:
I hope to find a UFO one with M42 screwmount.
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Maxim
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Maxim wrote:
Primotar looks funny... I want this lens Maybe it's not the best lens for general use - but for fun and pleasure.
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Orio
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Orio wrote:
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Primotar looks funny... I want this lens Maybe it's not the best lens for general use - but for fun and pleasure.
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Yes I mean this one exactly UFO lens
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patrickh
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patrickh wrote:
Does it say "take me to your leader"? What an odd shape
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bob955i
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| Posted: Thu Nov 22, 2007 7:22 pm Post subject: |
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bob955i wrote:
It's actually a bit fiddly to focus due to the focus ring grips being on the front. |
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montecarlo
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| Posted: Thu Nov 22, 2007 7:36 pm Post subject: |
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montecarlo wrote:
It depens on how smooth the focus ring is turning. With the Zenitar 2/50, which has a similas shape, I didn't have no problem, but may be because was made of plastic an not aluminium like I suppose the Meyer is made of.
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montecarlo
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| Posted: Thu Nov 22, 2007 7:38 pm Post subject: |
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montecarlo wrote:
Its this one: http://forum.mflenses.com/viewtopic.php?t=696&highlight=zenitar
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bob955i
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| Posted: Thu Nov 22, 2007 7:46 pm Post subject: |
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bob955i wrote:
The semi-matt finish of your Zenitar would probably aid grip Cosmin - as you suggest, the shinier alu finish of the Primotar probably won't. The focus on my Primotar copy is very smooth but still just a bit fiddly although not impossible.
I like the look of the lens though as I've never seen anything quite like it.
I can confirm that it's a 40.5mm filter ring by the way. |
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Katastrofo
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| Posted: Thu Nov 22, 2007 8:00 pm Post subject: |
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Katastrofo wrote:
The UFO lens looks like it would be great for street photography, very
unobtrusive...  |
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Orio
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| Posted: Thu Nov 22, 2007 8:03 pm Post subject: |
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Orio wrote:
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The UFO lens looks like it would be great for street photography, very
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Should work well as self defense, point it towards the aggressor and say you are going to abduct him 
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