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Attila
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 Posted: Thu Mar 12, 2009 5:26 pm Post subject: Voigtlander Zoomar 36-82mm f2.8 M42 |
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Attila wrote:
I got a chance to take one, this was first zoom in 1958. Price is 250 USD , I don't I able to sell after testing or not. Please give me some input!
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LucisPictor
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| Posted: Thu Mar 12, 2009 5:31 pm Post subject: |
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LucisPictor wrote:
I think it's rather a collector's item than a really usable lens.
It was the very first zoom lens for format 135 and was called "Gummilinse" (=rubber lens).
I don't know about the price but if you find the right guy who is interested in this lens, you will sureyl be able to sell it.
But from what I have read about it, don't expect a too high performance.
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F16SUNSHINE
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| Posted: Thu Mar 12, 2009 5:33 pm Post subject: |
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F16SUNSHINE wrote:
I never tested one.
When I was searching Voightlander listings last summer for RF lenses there was always one or two up for auction.
I would search completed listings for price.
If you find a live auction in the US I can bid for you.
It is a big ass lens from what I recall.
Maybe LuisAlegria or another member knows more about quality of images produced.
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Attila
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| Posted: Thu Mar 12, 2009 6:00 pm Post subject: |
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Attila wrote:
Thank you guys!
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themoleman342
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| Posted: Thu Mar 12, 2009 6:10 pm Post subject: |
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themoleman342 wrote:
http://m42.artlimited.net/lens_detail.php?lid=283
If that 95mm filter thread detail is right then yes, "big ass lens" indeed!
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Attila
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| Posted: Thu Mar 12, 2009 6:13 pm Post subject: |
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Attila wrote:
It was in my hands today I like it , nice piece.
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luisalegria
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luisalegria wrote:
Nope, I've never had one in my hands.
Way too expensive a collectors piece for me - unless I get lucky.
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estudleon
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estudleon wrote:
I had it with my Ultramatic CS.
As I thought that my copy was a bad ones, I bought another.
Well, both were bad lenses.
I didn't like this lens.
Aberrations. It's a luminous kaleidoscope .
The unique beauty thing, the little bag for the zoom and the ultramatic. And the ultramatic CS too.
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Attila
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| Posted: Thu Mar 12, 2009 8:00 pm Post subject: |
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Attila wrote:
Thank you !
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estudleon
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| Posted: Thu Mar 12, 2009 9:54 pm Post subject: |
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estudleon wrote:
But remember that you have in your hands a piece of history (the first zoom for 35 mm) and only that give high value to the lens, beyond of the yield of the same one.
Within the zoom lens there are many calculations, studies, tests, etc and that they have its value, that is not cheap.
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CZJ: 4/20, 2,4/35, 1,8/50 aus jena, 3,5/135MC, Pentacon 1,8/50
Pentax S-M-C-1,4/50
Helios 44-3
Mamiya 2,8/135
Misc. : jupiter 9
Stuff used:
A) SRL
Alpa 10 D - kern macro Switar 1,9/50 -black, Kilffit apochromat 2/100.
Asahi pentax spotmatic super takumar 1,4/50
Contaflex super B tessar 2,8/50 Pro-tessar 115
Leica R3 electronic summicron 2/50 elmarit 2,8/35
Konica Autoreflex 3 (2 black and chrome one), TC, T4. 2,8/24, 3,5/28 not MC and MC, 1,8/40, 1,4/50, 1,7/50 MC and not MC, 1,8/85, 3,2/135, 3,5/135, 4/200
Minolta XG9 2,8/35, 2/45, 3,5/135
Nikkormat FTn 1,4/50, 2,8/135
Fujica ST 801, 605, 705n. 3,5/19, 1,4/50, 1,8/55, 4/85, 3,5/135.
Praktica MTL 5 and a lot of M42 lenses.
Voigtlander. Bessamatic m, bessamatix de luxe, bessamatic cs, ultramatic and ultramatic cs.
Skoparex 3,5/35, skopagon 2/40, skopar 2,8/50, skopar X 2,8/50, super lanthar (out of catalogue) 2,8/50, dinarex 3,4/90, dinarex 4,8/100, super dinarex 4/135, super dinarex 4/200, zoomar 2,8/36-83, portrait lens 0, 1 and 2. Curtagon 4/28 and 2,8/35
Canon AV1, 1,8/50
Rolleiflex SL35 and SL35 E. 2,8/35 angulon, 2,8/35 distagon, 1,4/55 rolleinar, 1,8/50 planar, 4/135 tessar, 2,8/135 rolleinar, x2 rollei, M42 to rollei adap.
Etc.
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Yashica Minister III
Voightlander Vito, vitomatic I, Vito C, etc.
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Attila
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| Posted: Thu Mar 12, 2009 9:57 pm Post subject: |
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Attila wrote:
Yes, also true, thanks!
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Spotmatic
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Spotmatic wrote:
So, as Estudleon says, the lens is more for a collector than for regular use. Especially if you look at this (large) photo taken with the lens in question at f2.8:
http://210.238.185.197/~maro/lens_test/zoomar_36_28.jpg
The borders are worse than I have seen on even the worst super wide angle lens 
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Attila
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| Posted: Fri Mar 13, 2009 10:20 am Post subject: |
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Attila wrote:
Huuh not a pitty!
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fatdeeman
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fatdeeman wrote:
I put totally the wrong post here before lol
The lens gives a poor performance but it looks awesome! I would love one just for the eye candy.
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a20010494
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a20010494 wrote:
I held one, it was SOLID. Heavy. Large frontal glass. It was very scratched, but for $80 it was ok, but anyway, i didnt took it. I'm still scratching myself not to take it.
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Attila
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| Posted: Thu Sep 23, 2010 8:59 pm Post subject: |
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Attila wrote:
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| I held one, it was SOLID. Heavy. Large frontal glass. It was very scratched, but for $80 it was ok, but anyway, i didnt took it. I'm still scratching myself not to take it. |
I guess you made right decision to let it go, if a lens is not a good picture taker and it is abused well that means it has no value. No user nor collector value either.
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a20010494
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| Posted: Fri Sep 24, 2010 3:03 am Post subject: |
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a20010494 wrote:
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| I held one, it was SOLID. Heavy. Large frontal glass. It was very scratched, but for $80 it was ok, but anyway, i didnt took it. I'm still scratching myself not to take it. |
I guess you made right decision to let it go, if a lens is not a good picture taker and it is abused well that means it has no value. No user nor collector value either. |
For my small personal collection... would've been a pretty niche glass. Like that, i missed a Rokkor-X 21mm f2.8 ($60), and a zuiko 16mm f3.5 fisheye  ($160).
But heck, i've picked pretty wicked bargains too!
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