100% crop details from a Distagon 2.8/28 image

[Orio]

Please refer to this thread for reference:

http://forum.mflenses.com/a-walk-with-distagon-2-8-28-mm-t11152.html

This is the whole photo resized (hand held, f/5.6):



And these are 100% unsharpened crop details from it:








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[Attila]

Yeah, CARL ZEISS!
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[Katastrofo]

I love that lens! I hate you, Orio!

[Orio]

[F16SUNSHINE]

That is quite a lens.
One of the true "bargains" as well.
The big 3 can not compete with this FL for 3 times the price.
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[Orio]

The thing that amazes me the most, is how "3D" it looks in the second and third enlargement. I feel like if I can hold the marble!
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MC Macro-Revuenon 2.8/35 M42 Kenko Teleplus MC4 2x CY Yashica 2/55 DSB CY Contax 167MT camera Nikon F70 camera various Praktica M42 cameras Polar Automatic 2.8/35 M42 -
Meyer-Optik Goerlitz Primagon 4.5/35 M42 Canonet QL17 G-III camera - Carl Zeiss Vario-Sonnar T* 3.3-4.5/35-135 Contax CY
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[LucisPictor]

This is simply amazing!!!
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[BobDodds]

CZ Distagon 28/2.8 must be top three in value for mf lenses.

If it is soft at corners or edges, that would be cut off on crop sensors.

I have seen the sharpness, and subtle gradations of tone, adding up to Zeiss super 3D realism with this lens.
You can see it here, though a Zuiko might be dull on contrast and keep your highlights on the light tone masonry.
Or, stay with the CZ 28/2.8, and I would use Sigma ISO 50, under-expose slightly or until I bring in the highlights,
then ISO 50 should keep the shadow noise-free, and then we can keep the Zeiss on there.

I may just get rid of everything but Zeiss. I would not feel egalitarian or open-minded if I started at that point, but maybe it is going there.
Zeiss Zeiss Zeiss. If you were closer to that bus, maybe Hollywood 28/2 instead?

[Orio]

Although I love the excellent sharpness of the 2.8/28, I must say that the Hollywood is a step above,
because it is one of those lenses that not only do the job, but also put their fingerprint on it, if you know what I mean.
Of course, one must like the Zeiss look, which is not of everyone's taste. There is people that prefer lenses that render
with less contrast and smoother tones. It is really a matter of personal taste ultimately.

Then as you rightly point out, it is also a matter of camera/lens interaction (or film/lens interaction, for those who use film).
For instance, I think that the EOS-Zeiss match is excellent, because the CMOS in EOS cameras deliver very smooth tones and subtle gradations,
that can become (in my opinion) dull and boring when used with bland lenses like some of the EF lenses are.
The Contax lenses with their acutance counter-balance the characteristics of the EOS cameras and deliver -for my own taste- a perfect balance.
It would be nice to see the interaction of these Contax lenses with other digital cameras, but so far, I could not see many samples on the net.
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MC Macro-Revuenon 2.8/35 M42 Kenko Teleplus MC4 2x CY Yashica 2/55 DSB CY Contax 167MT camera Nikon F70 camera various Praktica M42 cameras Polar Automatic 2.8/35 M42 -
Meyer-Optik Goerlitz Primagon 4.5/35 M42 Canonet QL17 G-III camera - Carl Zeiss Vario-Sonnar T* 3.3-4.5/35-135 Contax CY
Leitz Elmarit-R 2.8/35 third (best) edition Leica-R - Carl Zeiss Jena Sonnar 2.8/180 MC Carl Zeiss Jena Sonnar 4/300 MC
Super-Multi-Coated Takumar 3.5/135 M42 Voigtlaender Septon 2/50 for Bessamatic with EOS adapter Pentacon Electric 2.8/100 M42 (Orestor's latest version)
Carl Zeiss Jena Pancolar 1.8/80 MC M42 Carl Zeiss Jena Flektogon 4/50 (zebra) Carl Zeiss Jena Tessar 2.8/50 aluminium *12 blades* M42 Carl Zeiss Jena Tessar 4.5/40 aluminium red T *10 blades* M42
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[poilu]

[patrickh]

Orio

Has to be one of the best lenses available

patrickh
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[BobDodds]

I have just found a site with adapters for Contax to K and to M42.

http://www.leitax.com/zeiss-contax-lens-for-pentax-cameras.html

I adapted this lens to Sigma SA, but it might be possible to use those K adapters and just put a 1.5mm spacer under them. In other cases, the M42 adapter would work, such as with Planar T* 85/1.4. 35/1.4?

Leica R, too.

reduser.net shows hd video RED cam can take EOS and Nikon F lenses, which they do to get some oof and bokeh like film cams. They could then use Contax to EOS adapters and M42 to PL or M42 to EOS adapters with "our" manual focus lenses. Otherwise, video cam lenses focus on everything from near to infinity--pity them! In the opposite direction, we could sometimes wish for their dof for macro on dslr.

[rawhead]

[DSG]

[BobDodds]

DSG, I think 28/2.8 is, according to reviewers, alleged to have edge to edge sharpness and 35/1.4 is supposed to be a bit soft at edges in comparison, but of course we know that f16 is to be avoided. SD14 format would crop off any soft corners of 35 and several other lenses notorious for soft corners.

I have been using my CZ Distagon 28/2.8 on Sigma SD14 lately.
http://www.pbase.com/recbo/cz28_28&page=all


I think it has smooth bokeh. One thing I wonder about is whether it has as nice color on people's faces as 35/1.4 which is undeniably great for color. I'll have to shoot them in the same lighting some time.