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spleenone
Joined: 26 Dec 2009 Posts: 1130 Location: Slovakia
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Posted: Thu Jul 08, 2010 12:49 pm Post subject: Tri-X 400 like 1600 portrait |
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spleenone wrote:
Shortly... was bad developing (my self - many ruined photos due incorrect reel up - need to buy some new one apparently) and not very good scan (from lab) but have one from acceptable photos adjusted with pp... see:
cam: Fujica st801 with Kodak Tri-X 400 pushed on 1600iso -> great and nice grain!
developed in Fomadon D-76n 20°C and 9,5 min
Biometar 80/2.8 @2.8 1/2000
[c&c] welcome - thx _________________ Shoot on analog mainly with
Nikkor glass
then Pentacon6TL for squares
and Fujica GL690 in case of 6x9
Carpe diem!
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fish4570
Joined: 06 Jan 2010 Posts: 4514 Location: At the confluence of the Locust Fork of the Warrior River and Black Creek, Alabama
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Posted: Thu Jul 08, 2010 1:24 pm Post subject: |
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fish4570 wrote:
Good portrait, and it looks sharp where it should be. Can you go back and brush out the dust spots? _________________ Paul
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Nesster
Joined: 24 Apr 2008 Posts: 5883 Location: NJ, USA
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Posted: Thu Jul 08, 2010 1:25 pm Post subject: |
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Nesster wrote:
I like the slightly grungy feel of this one, there's a sense of atmosphere _________________ -Jussi
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fish4570
Joined: 06 Jan 2010 Posts: 4514 Location: At the confluence of the Locust Fork of the Warrior River and Black Creek, Alabama
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Posted: Thu Jul 08, 2010 1:35 pm Post subject: |
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fish4570 wrote:
She is an awfully pretty girl for such grunge ... _________________ Paul
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spleenone
Joined: 26 Dec 2009 Posts: 1130 Location: Slovakia
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Posted: Thu Jul 08, 2010 7:01 pm Post subject: |
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spleenone wrote:
fish4570 wrote: |
Good portrait, and it looks sharp where it should be. Can you go back and brush out the dust spots? |
Thanks.
I am afraid that it is not dust but some dirt from home developing. Tried to regulate that.
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She is an awfully pretty girl for such grunge ... |
Yes she is nice woman =) But what did you and Nesster mean with that grunge? That music style or what? _________________ Shoot on analog mainly with
Nikkor glass
then Pentacon6TL for squares
and Fujica GL690 in case of 6x9
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fish4570
Joined: 06 Jan 2010 Posts: 4514 Location: At the confluence of the Locust Fork of the Warrior River and Black Creek, Alabama
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Posted: Thu Jul 08, 2010 7:30 pm Post subject: |
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fish4570 wrote:
I do not see those spots now. Excellent ... _________________ Paul
I chase Light
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fish4570
Joined: 06 Jan 2010 Posts: 4514 Location: At the confluence of the Locust Fork of the Warrior River and Black Creek, Alabama
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Posted: Thu Jul 08, 2010 7:31 pm Post subject: |
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fish4570 wrote:
Perhaps gritty is a better word than grunge. The film, exposure, scan, smoke all contribute to a gritty atmosphere ...
I have no idea what grunge music is ... _________________ Paul
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paperinik
Joined: 11 Jan 2009 Posts: 100 Location: Adro, italy
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Bob van Sikorski
Joined: 12 Jan 2009 Posts: 287 Location: Czech Republic
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Posted: Thu Jul 08, 2010 7:46 pm Post subject: |
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Bob van Sikorski wrote:
tri-x 400 pushed to 1600 is excellent. i developed one few months ago in D76 1+1 and looks fantastic (mid tones are present, contrast very good and grain HP5-like style, which i love ). _________________ Rokkor (MD 45/2.0, MC PF 50/1.7), Porst Color Reflex MC Auto 55/1.2, Jupiter 135/3.5
Minolta X-700, Minolta Dynax 4, Flexaret IIa (later version), Flexaret VI
Voigtländer Avus 9x12 (1927-1935 version)
Epson V500 + VueScan/Linux + RawTherapee 4.x + GIMP/wavelett sharpen plugin
Meopta Magnifax III (up to 6x9) + Opemus III (up to 6x6), Rodenstock Rodagon 50/2.8, Meopta Anaret 105/4.5
Proud user of czech films! company homepage: foma.cz, buy here: fomafoto.com |
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spleenone
Joined: 26 Dec 2009 Posts: 1130 Location: Slovakia
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Posted: Thu Jul 08, 2010 9:34 pm Post subject: |
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spleenone wrote:
Bob van Sikorski wrote: |
tri-x 400 pushed to 1600 is excellent. i developed one few months ago in D76 1+1 and looks fantastic (mid tones are present, contrast very good and grain HP5-like style, which i love ). |
yeah but next time I should leave it little longer at bath for better contrast as I think. That powder Foma developer D-76n is probly not as strong as Kodak D-76. Used stock dev. _________________ Shoot on analog mainly with
Nikkor glass
then Pentacon6TL for squares
and Fujica GL690 in case of 6x9
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Bob van Sikorski
Joined: 12 Jan 2009 Posts: 287 Location: Czech Republic
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Posted: Fri Jul 09, 2010 5:19 am Post subject: |
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Bob van Sikorski wrote:
i using for more contrast more agitation (typically i develop with times from digitaltruth an agitate first 30sec constantly, then every half minute 3 to 4 agitations and last 30sec constantly again. my brother uses much less agitation, but he using ilford's ID11 stock. _________________ Rokkor (MD 45/2.0, MC PF 50/1.7), Porst Color Reflex MC Auto 55/1.2, Jupiter 135/3.5
Minolta X-700, Minolta Dynax 4, Flexaret IIa (later version), Flexaret VI
Voigtländer Avus 9x12 (1927-1935 version)
Epson V500 + VueScan/Linux + RawTherapee 4.x + GIMP/wavelett sharpen plugin
Meopta Magnifax III (up to 6x9) + Opemus III (up to 6x6), Rodenstock Rodagon 50/2.8, Meopta Anaret 105/4.5
Proud user of czech films! company homepage: foma.cz, buy here: fomafoto.com |
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spleenone
Joined: 26 Dec 2009 Posts: 1130 Location: Slovakia
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Posted: Fri Jul 09, 2010 11:28 am Post subject: |
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spleenone wrote:
Bob van Sikorski wrote: |
i using for more contrast more agitation (typically i develop with times from digitaltruth an agitate first 30sec constantly, then every half minute 3 to 4 agitations and last 30sec constantly again. my brother uses much less agitation, but he using ilford's ID11 stock. |
I see. Read somewhere that agitation shorten developing time. Now I understand that it increasng contrast. Thanks. _________________ Shoot on analog mainly with
Nikkor glass
then Pentacon6TL for squares
and Fujica GL690 in case of 6x9
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Bob van Sikorski
Joined: 12 Jan 2009 Posts: 287 Location: Czech Republic
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Posted: Fri Jul 09, 2010 11:33 am Post subject: |
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Bob van Sikorski wrote:
i use this rules for developing. iam not entirely sure, that they are correct, but works for me very fine:
1) want more contrast? use more agitation
2) want more mid tones? use dilution (not stock, but 1+1 or 1+3, depends on situation), but be carefull to loose contrast
3) if you want push more, use more dilution and also more time to develop. do not change agitation, because you will kill all rest mid tones on heavily pushed film
this rules work for me very fine. but i dont have much experiences in darkroom, i develop some kodak trix on 400, some pushed to 1600, since that i am using only ilford P4 (HP5 equiv) in variety of sensitivity (400 to 1600).
maybe iam totally wrong, iam newbie in darkroom and HP5/trix are VERY , VERY flexible films _________________ Rokkor (MD 45/2.0, MC PF 50/1.7), Porst Color Reflex MC Auto 55/1.2, Jupiter 135/3.5
Minolta X-700, Minolta Dynax 4, Flexaret IIa (later version), Flexaret VI
Voigtländer Avus 9x12 (1927-1935 version)
Epson V500 + VueScan/Linux + RawTherapee 4.x + GIMP/wavelett sharpen plugin
Meopta Magnifax III (up to 6x9) + Opemus III (up to 6x6), Rodenstock Rodagon 50/2.8, Meopta Anaret 105/4.5
Proud user of czech films! company homepage: foma.cz, buy here: fomafoto.com |
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spleenone
Joined: 26 Dec 2009 Posts: 1130 Location: Slovakia
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Posted: Fri Jul 09, 2010 12:31 pm Post subject: |
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spleenone wrote:
We'll try we'll learn. I also not experience developer. Sometimes could speak about luck _________________ Shoot on analog mainly with
Nikkor glass
then Pentacon6TL for squares
and Fujica GL690 in case of 6x9
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Bob van Sikorski
Joined: 12 Jan 2009 Posts: 287 Location: Czech Republic
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Posted: Fri Jul 09, 2010 12:38 pm Post subject: |
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Bob van Sikorski wrote:
yes, luck is THE word, which i knows very well .
another funny part is, that you're from slovakia, i'am from czechchia, we was both part of "czechoslovakia". we can both wrote in our mother language and understand to each other . _________________ Rokkor (MD 45/2.0, MC PF 50/1.7), Porst Color Reflex MC Auto 55/1.2, Jupiter 135/3.5
Minolta X-700, Minolta Dynax 4, Flexaret IIa (later version), Flexaret VI
Voigtländer Avus 9x12 (1927-1935 version)
Epson V500 + VueScan/Linux + RawTherapee 4.x + GIMP/wavelett sharpen plugin
Meopta Magnifax III (up to 6x9) + Opemus III (up to 6x6), Rodenstock Rodagon 50/2.8, Meopta Anaret 105/4.5
Proud user of czech films! company homepage: foma.cz, buy here: fomafoto.com |
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Katastrofo
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Posted: Fri Jul 09, 2010 10:18 pm Post subject: |
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Katastrofo wrote:
I like how the dimple (I get these too, sometimes, *dammit*) looks like part
of a smoke ring. Beautiful shot and the subject, too. |
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spleenone
Joined: 26 Dec 2009 Posts: 1130 Location: Slovakia
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Posted: Sat Jul 10, 2010 10:40 am Post subject: |
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spleenone wrote:
Bob van Sikorski wrote: |
yes, luck is THE word, which i knows very well .
another funny part is, that you're from slovakia, i'am from czechchia, we was both part of "czechoslovakia". we can both wrote in our mother language and understand to each other . |
Aj to je možné
Katastrofo wrote: |
I like how the dimple (I get these too, sometimes, *dammit*) looks like part
of a smoke ring. Beautiful shot and the subject, too. |
Thanks a lot Katastrofo =)
...decide to move on with one more sample. Love her desperate expression.
Biometar 80/2.8 at f2.8 _________________ Shoot on analog mainly with
Nikkor glass
then Pentacon6TL for squares
and Fujica GL690 in case of 6x9
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Nesster
Joined: 24 Apr 2008 Posts: 5883 Location: NJ, USA
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Posted: Sat Jul 10, 2010 11:04 am Post subject: |
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Nesster wrote:
I'm really enjoying your work, on this one there's all that geometry and 'back stage' business, light's great, model's great... _________________ -Jussi
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fish4570
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Posted: Sat Jul 10, 2010 1:22 pm Post subject: |
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fish4570 wrote:
Another good shot splee.
Now I understand how "grunge" applies: the shots were made in a photo studio! _________________ Paul
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spleenone
Joined: 26 Dec 2009 Posts: 1130 Location: Slovakia
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Posted: Sun Jul 11, 2010 1:15 pm Post subject: |
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spleenone wrote:
Nesster wrote: |
I'm really enjoying your work, on this one there's all that geometry and 'back stage' business, light's great, model's great... |
Thanks. Yes... back stage - it was during some short student's film - that tripod with Canon 7D as camera. Great experience to shoot the film with such tool.
fish4570 wrote: |
Another good shot splee.
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Thank you =)
fish4570 wrote: |
Now I understand how "grunge" applies: the shots were made in a photo studio! |
Definitely =D _________________ Shoot on analog mainly with
Nikkor glass
then Pentacon6TL for squares
and Fujica GL690 in case of 6x9
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