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woodrim
Joined: 14 Jan 2010 Posts: 4060 Location: Charleston
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Posted: Sun Nov 16, 2014 9:15 pm Post subject: Topcon R-Topcor 5.6/300 |
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woodrim wrote:
I did a search and found a thread on RE-Topcor, but not R-Topcor, so here is mine. When I first received this lens it had issues, including fungus. I used it briefly on a couple of occasions just to test and wasn't impressed with the results. I sent it off to Marc Jensen for CLA because I didn't think it had much value as it was. I have just yesterday given it the first real shoot. WHile it doesn't impress me as razor sharp, I think it is acceptable for the focal length and I have no issues with the bokeh or colors; it really performed better than I had anticipated. I shot most if not all at wide open f/5.6 100ISO using NEX-5N. Vertical images were cropped from horizontal. Level adjustments were made, but no added sharpening. - One of very few Topcor lenses still cheap -
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Nordentro
Joined: 24 Jun 2010 Posts: 4713 Location: Lillehammer, Norway
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Posted: Sun Nov 16, 2014 9:22 pm Post subject: |
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Nordentro wrote:
You always seem to get the best out of the tele lenses with your Dock/ Pier environment bird pics. Focus is precise and the bokeh is pleasing Thanks for sharing! _________________ Lars | Manuellfokus.no |
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Lightshow
Joined: 04 Nov 2011 Posts: 3669 Location: Calgary
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Posted: Sun Nov 16, 2014 11:14 pm Post subject: |
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Lightshow wrote:
My R 300/5.6 is also not as sharp as I'd like, I think they put more effort into getting the R 300/2.8 sharp.
The R 135/3.5 and R 200/4 I that it have are as sharp as I'll ever need, there is lots of sharpness headroom on my A7r.
Great shots woodrim, thanks for the post. _________________ A Manual Focus Junky...
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kenetik
Joined: 02 Mar 2014 Posts: 524
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Posted: Mon Nov 17, 2014 7:09 am Post subject: |
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kenetik wrote:
I love the bokeh in the bird shots, awesome photos as always. Add a pic of then lens if you get a chance. _________________ ________________________________________________________
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woodrim
Joined: 14 Jan 2010 Posts: 4060 Location: Charleston
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Posted: Mon Nov 17, 2014 2:39 pm Post subject: |
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woodrim wrote:
Thanks to all. I guess I've been spoiled by my other lenses when it comes to sharpness. The focus fall-off is more sudden that I expected for f/5.6, but probably because of my lack of experience with long lenses. However, the one mirror lens I have at 300mm is much worse. The bokeh was a nice surprise. _________________ Regards,
Woodrim |
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Pancolart
Joined: 04 Feb 2008 Posts: 3693 Location: Slovenia, EU
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Posted: Mon Nov 17, 2014 3:56 pm Post subject: |
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Pancolart wrote:
kenetik wrote: |
I love the bokeh in the bird shots, awesome photos as always. Add a pic of then lens if you get a chance. |
+1 this one really rocks:
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Macca
Joined: 20 Mar 2012 Posts: 248 Location: Glasgow, Scotland.
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Posted: Tue Nov 18, 2014 4:36 pm Post subject: |
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Macca wrote:
Very nice shots Woodrim, I think the RE version may be marginally sharper wide open but have not used it in a while so that`s from memory really. _________________ Sony A7iii.
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Lightshow
Joined: 04 Nov 2011 Posts: 3669 Location: Calgary
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Posted: Wed Nov 19, 2014 12:44 am Post subject: |
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Lightshow wrote:
I wouldn't mind seeing some shots from the RE. _________________ A Manual Focus Junky...
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woodrim
Joined: 14 Jan 2010 Posts: 4060 Location: Charleston
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Posted: Sun Nov 23, 2014 2:13 am Post subject: |
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woodrim wrote:
One from today in the back yard. Sweethearts up high. Turkey vulchers. This usually means there is something dead nearby, or maybe I'm not looking healthy.
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mo
Joined: 27 Aug 2009 Posts: 8982 Location: Australia
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Posted: Sun Nov 23, 2014 2:35 am Post subject: |
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mo wrote:
They do seem to be looking your way , Great shots from a great lens it seems.I also like #4 as well, the lone gull or odd one out. _________________ Moira, Moderator
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JJB
Joined: 02 Oct 2014 Posts: 424 Location: USA
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Posted: Sun Nov 23, 2014 3:18 am Post subject: |
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JJB wrote:
I really love the second one. The OOF bird in the background looks like a shadow or a reflection of the first. They all look plenty sharp to me. You certainly live in a photogenic part of the world and show it off to its best advantage! _________________ Nikon D80 with 18/55 kit lens
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John Shriver
Joined: 24 Dec 2009 Posts: 193
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Posted: Sun Nov 30, 2014 1:00 am Post subject: |
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John Shriver wrote:
The R and RE versions of the 300/5.6 are the same optics. But the R version is 10 to 50 times more common. |
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woodrim
Joined: 14 Jan 2010 Posts: 4060 Location: Charleston
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Posted: Sun Nov 30, 2014 1:11 am Post subject: |
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woodrim wrote:
John Shriver wrote: |
The R and RE versions of the 300/5.6 are the same optics. But the R version is 10 to 50 times more common. |
I presume you mean same formula, but do you think they may have refined it to be a tad sharper? _________________ Regards,
Woodrim |
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AlphaL
Joined: 26 Feb 2010 Posts: 10 Location: Netherlands
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Posted: Sun Nov 30, 2014 10:06 pm Post subject: |
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AlphaL wrote:
Good shots woodrim. Seems a nice lens. But like you say, not razor sharp (wide open). Does it get much better stopped down to F8? |
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woodrim
Joined: 14 Jan 2010 Posts: 4060 Location: Charleston
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Posted: Mon Dec 01, 2014 12:01 am Post subject: |
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woodrim wrote:
Some, of course, but not much. _________________ Regards,
Woodrim |
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Lightshow
Joined: 04 Nov 2011 Posts: 3669 Location: Calgary
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Posted: Mon Dec 01, 2014 9:16 am Post subject: |
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Lightshow wrote:
AlphaL, the lens seems to be one of the very few duds Topcon produced, out of the 3-4 samples on this site, they all seem to be the same, not at all like my R 135/3.5 and R 200/4, which are very sharp wide open. _________________ A Manual Focus Junky...
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Lightshow
Joined: 04 Nov 2011 Posts: 3669 Location: Calgary
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Posted: Sun Aug 21, 2016 2:14 am Post subject: |
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Lightshow wrote:
Well, I'm going to try a 2nd copy to see if it's any better, it's well used vs my first copy which is mint, if it's not sharper I'll open it up and see if I can shim some elements and maybe make it sharper.
The 2nd copy is the same. Too bad, I don't really want a 300/2.8, it's not exactly small.
The only other lenses I really want from Topcor is the R 135/2 and the RE 25 in black. _________________ A Manual Focus Junky...
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John Shriver
Joined: 24 Dec 2009 Posts: 193
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Posted: Sat Nov 19, 2016 2:45 am Post subject: Topcoat 300/5.6 |
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John Shriver wrote:
I've got both the R. Topcor and RE. Auto-Topcor 300/5.6 lenses, but the Tamron 54B 300/5.6 is so fantastic I use it instead. A good generation newer, and fantastic close-up performance. |
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Lightshow
Joined: 04 Nov 2011 Posts: 3669 Location: Calgary
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Posted: Sat Nov 19, 2016 3:25 am Post subject: |
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Lightshow wrote:
Could you post some pics from the Re 300/5.6? _________________ A Manual Focus Junky...
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John Shriver
Joined: 24 Dec 2009 Posts: 193
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Posted: Sat Nov 19, 2016 7:45 pm Post subject: |
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John Shriver wrote:
Modern Photography reviewed the R. Topcor 30/5.6 in April 1962, center sharpness was only "good", the worst results of the 7 different Topcors they reviewed. The 300/2.8 was "very good" in the center from f/4 to f/8. Neither was very great in the corners. |
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woodrim
Joined: 14 Jan 2010 Posts: 4060 Location: Charleston
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Posted: Mon Feb 13, 2017 6:16 pm Post subject: |
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woodrim wrote:
It's not a lens that I use much, but this past weekend I took it along in case I decided to stop by the swamp. I decided to stop by the swamp. All were taken at f/5.6 using NEX-5N...
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kds315*
Joined: 12 Mar 2008 Posts: 16544 Location: Weinheim, Germany
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Posted: Mon Feb 13, 2017 7:46 pm Post subject: |
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kds315* wrote:
wow, great results you got!! _________________ Klaus - Admin
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woodrim
Joined: 14 Jan 2010 Posts: 4060 Location: Charleston
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Posted: Mon Feb 13, 2017 8:38 pm Post subject: |
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woodrim wrote:
kds315* wrote: |
wow, great results you got!! |
Thanks, Klaus. The light was good and it made for easier focusing. _________________ Regards,
Woodrim |
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Lightshow
Joined: 04 Nov 2011 Posts: 3669 Location: Calgary
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Posted: Mon May 03, 2021 5:53 pm Post subject: |
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Lightshow wrote:
The serial #'s for my 2 lenses are 701234, 701364, anyone else that has an R 30cm f 5.6 please post your serial and how sharp it is, especially if yours is razor sharp because I'd love to know if there are better copies out there, cuz I want one. _________________ A Manual Focus Junky...
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tb_a
Joined: 26 Jan 2010 Posts: 3678 Location: Austria
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Posted: Tue May 04, 2021 8:00 am Post subject: |
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tb_a wrote:
Lightshow wrote: |
The serial #'s for my 2 lenses are 701234, 701364, anyone else that has an R 30cm f 5.6 please post your serial and how sharp it is, especially if yours is razor sharp because I'd love to know if there are better copies out there, cuz I want one. |
I've got 701383; however my attempt to repair the aperture blades resulted in a mess. Unfortunately I'm unable to restore the lens into a usable condition not even without the blades. After looking at these prictures I regret it..... _________________ Thomas Bernardy
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